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Old 08-01-2008, 09:42 AM
ana21 ana21 is offline
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Wow - you find me to be a disappointment? What a surprise!
I was speaking generally but .... .

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If I waltzed into Canada tomorrow I wouldn't expect that their government would pick up the tab for casting my broken arm regardless of whether or not I was there legally.

There is a big difference between being a CITIZEN of a nation and being afforded the benefits of that citizenship and being a VISITOR in a nation and expecting those benefits. I would assume that a number of those foreigners are students just here to get an education who will eventually be graduating with a degree and returning to their homeland. Are we supposed to foot the bill for their health insurance while they're here?
If I'm not mistaken US citizens visiting and or legally residing in other countries are eligible for that country's health program. I could be mistaken but as another poster on this thread said that was her experience in Canada and I know for a fact it is true for a friend who has lived as a legal resident in both Germany and Great Britain.

Don't most universities have health insurance plans available to students. I also think that most students attending school here are from fairly well off families who are able to afford health coverage for the student. If not, they are likely sponsored by an organization that would provide such coverage.

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And I doubt your assertion that ALL of those 10.3M are here legally. We don't KNOW that. We just know that they responded to the census, and both legal and illegal immigrants do fill those out. They go to every single residence in the US.
Frankly doubt an illegal immigrant would fill out a census form. Lots of citizens can't be bothered. If you can cite a source that refutes my "assertion" and btw, that of the census bureau, please post.


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Do I want anyone who is sick to lay on the sidewalk and die because they don't have health insurance? Obviously not. But do I want the American government to spend billions of dollars creating a bureaucracy to cover free doctors visits for some university student from Indonesia who has the sniffles? Um.... no, not really.
Right, buck up kid.

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You say the number of uninsured has gone up by $1M annually over that for years. I'd like a credible source for that, please. The percentage of chronically homeless people has dropped by 30% in the last four years according to a study that was released just this week, and for some reason I think that it's possible that there might be some correlation between the two.
I think I said the number of uninsured had gone up by a million a year not $1M. At any rate, the number in 2001 was 41.2, in 2005 it was 46.6. Those figures came from the source cited in my earlier post, if you don't find the figures credible, please cite a credible source with contrary information.

Last edited by ana21; 08-01-2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason: spelling