Excuse me Valorian are you referring to me about questioning how many children the Duggar family are going to have and whether or not this thread will start up again next year when the eldest Duggar son has a family because if, so were you the one who started a thread about yours son torn up shirt and wishing sometimes you could just run away, do you seriously think you could manage 18 children, honestly. I know I could not. SO plmk what you mean't by that statement. Peace. Catherine