jeanie, I'm sorry, but I think you're spouting nonsense.

Everything I've been able to google that isn't a blog has indicated that in fact one can make a living doing plumbing in his state as long as they are working for a business that also employs a Master Plumber, and the non-licensed plumbers are working *under* that Master Plumber.

You have to have worked as a plumber under a Master Plumber for four years before you are eligible to sit for a Masters license of your own. Therefore, every plumber *with* a Master Plumber license would've worked a minimum of four years as a plumber before becoming a Master, and Joe is currently a plumber at that 'level'.

From what I read, only those who have achieved Master Plumber can advertise their services, hire other plumbers to work under them, etc. But it is perfectly legal to work *as* a plumber *in* the plumbing business *under* a Master Plumber and call yourself a plumber. 'Cause... that's what you do all day. Go out to people's houses and mess with their pipes.

I think hambirg has it exactly right. Discredit Joe so nobody can talk about Obama's socialist answer.