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Ingredients for the product in OPs post -
Oak Vinegar, Bamboo Vinegar, Tourmaline, Houttyunia Cordata, Eucalyptus, Chitosan, Agicarus Mushroom, Saurus Chinesis
Ingredients for Kinoki:
Wood Vinegar, Bamboo Vinegar, Chitosan, Dokudami, Loquat Leaf, Vitamin C, Vegetable fiber, Tourmaline, Dextrin
They look pretty similar to me - Too expensive to try something that already has bad reviews.
Maybe if they were cheaper, just for grins, I might try them.
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