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Originally Posted by kvmj  Not true on the taser. Almost none of them had underlying medical causes unless you want to count the man who was tazed 6 or 7 times after he was dead, I can compile a list but it won't be tonight and it won't be in this thread (it's almost full and would be off topic).
What you gave me as proof of their innocence is a blog. I see no evidence that the author is a journalist or a lawyer. He quotes Tancredo a lot. Sorry, but I kind of think that Tancredo is crazy. This Border Control agency that he claims to be the head of is another blog. Or maybe it's another vigilante group. Everthing that I have seen, with this one exception, says that he was shot in the back.
There are other sources that I do not place much credence in; The Washington Times (The debate over global warming is over because it was so cold today!) And we all know about the Murdoch empire. I also don't put any credence in Lou Dobbs or CNN.
Any time you're dealing with a human being you're going to get errors. That's why we have 12 different people that make up a jury. Let's hope that, for the most part, they have gotten things right. |
Yes, please. Provide me with a list of taser induced deaths.
And you know--you don't place much credence any anything apparently. Just for my own information: Who or what are you placing credence in that the agents were indeed guilty? What information do you have that I apparently don't have?
I'm open to re-evaluate my position and opinion. But, unfortunately, I won't just accept your opinion as fact.
Did the agents fail to follow protocol (as far as not filing the necessary report for discharging their weapons)? Yep, I don't dispute that and neither do they. However, there were, by all accounts two supervisors there who were aware that shots had been fired, and failed to file the paperwork as well.
What objective evidence supports that the illegal was actually shot by one of the agents? There was no blood trail, it didn't come out that he had been shot until a few days, maybe even a week or so later. What objective evidence supports that the illegal did not have a gun? The illegals testimony from all I can see. Granted there is no objective evidence to support there was a gun either. So, it's really a case of he said/he said. And frankly that's what this whole case is he said/he said. I tend to believe two decorated patrol agents over an illegal alien attempting to smuggle over 700 lbs of marijuana into our country. And until you provide the objective evidence supporting that the illegal alien is 100% telling the truth...well, let's just say that given the choice, I'm going to support two decorated Border Patrol agents who were wrongfully prosecuted and imprisoned.