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Old 08-05-2009, 10:21 PM
meepie meepie is offline
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Angry Ebay and Paypal UNFAIR! must read this!

It is SO Frustrating when you do everything you're supposed to and still end up losing in the end.
I was selling items on ebay, now I find out that ebay has REALLY CHANGED!
Buyer decided after having the item for 50 days that they didnt want it and filed a dispute on ebay and paypal. WELL, RULES HAVE CHANGED!
Paypal decided in there favor,,,(because from talking to MANY different trust and safty managers THEY HAVE to decide in the buyers favor now) *no matter what reason they may have!* so read this carfully everyone because this will happen!
oh, you can file a appeal,(but UNLESS you have signed docs WITH witnesses(verified WITH a notery) as to condition,(they also have to see it packed,shipped etc) you WILL LOSE! oh and can take up to 120 days!
1. I get charged the listing fee,(have to pay it)$2.15
2.I get charged the auction percentage% (final value fee) (have to pay!)$14.00
3.I have to pay the shipping cost(I charged shipping, but NOW you have to pay ALL MONEY BACK!)$37.85
4.Paypal socks me $ for the REFUND I HAVE TO GIVE!
*so after all of this,
I get the USED *NOT NEW as it was,* back and am out a TON OF MONEY and CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! (seller protected NOT!)
so out $57.00 and received a used NOT new item back!
So everyone now at ANYTIME within the 60 days a BUYER can use,destroy,copy,abuse,and RETURN the item you sold them NO MATTER what your auction says about no-returns etc. SELLERS LOSE N EVERY WAY NOW! (basically they are saying, a buyer for any reason is covered, and WILL receive a refund NO MATTER WHAT.... then if you want, you may file a dispute (which you WONT win! Ebayers and ALOT of them are now realising this and taking advantage of it ALL OVER!!! NEVER AGAIN will I sell, BUT....
as paypal and ebay say(in NON-QUOTED) DIFFERENT WORDS!(if I buy) I can use it for up to 60 days and then get my money back......
In the last month thinking it was a fluke, I have lost more than 500.00 because of people taking advantage of the NEW way they work.. NOT FAIR!
oh DID I mention that depending on what LIE they say to return it, ***YOU CAN NOT RELIST THE ITEM!! EVER AGAIN!!!!!OR YOU WILL BE KICKED OFF.....
so nope cant even sell it as used now!, or ANY part of the item sold If they return it broken!..Yes I have talked to one of the Highest on ebay and Also paypal this is the way it is now! Keep in mind it took days and days talking to many mnay different people on both paypal and ebay to get thr REAL ANSWER!
BUT I HAVE TO PAY NO MATTER WHAT!
sorry for the anger, I am just so DONE.
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