Kvmg thanks so much for last quote, how true how true. Again I will say I am so sorry I started this thread, this thread was suppossed to me about anyone else who like me who wanted to leave a message of condolenses for another member of the Kennedy clan who passed away it was not suppossed to me about all these other quotes. And again I will say I am not happy that President Obama has not started removing our troops from Iraq where they were sent by George W. Bush. I can speak the truth , proud liberal Democrat not proud that our troops are still there and not proud that they ever went. So sorry to other posters here that this thread went totally off track. Again may Senator Ted Kennedy rest in peace with his family. Peace. Catherine