For those that might be interested, these are two new posts posted today from the ostomy board regarding Farrah's death. Also, like I said before, I have not seen the documentary. I would like to. Is there an online site where I could watch it?

Re: DEATH OF FARRAH FAWCETT FROM RECTAL CA
by baixinha2 » Today 01:00:40

It's late here and I've just returned from touring my Asian cousins around town (something that would've never been possible a couple of years ago,) so please forgive me if I sound stupid and arrogant but I just couldn't help but wonder...

about those people who would rather die than get an colo/ileostomy or are completely devastated by it when they do... what do they think about me when they learn I have a colostomy? Do they think I'd be better off dead?? Do they think I'm pitable? Or do they think they're better than me?

Regarding Farrah, I was wondering what the chances of HER getting a colostomy would've been... now I know. I wonder if anyone ever sent her a Colondar (calendar) from the Colon Club? Maybe seeing all those fragile, wasted, balding models... oh, wait... that's the calendar for terminal patients... sorry.

Okay... I'm tired and cranky... I'm going to bed.Audrey
colostomy which acts like an ileostomy, 12/07
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Re: DEATH OF FARRAH FAWCETT FROM RECTAL CA
by MirandaRose » Today 08:27:03

I commented on this with a friend and she said she saw Farrah's doctor on TV who said an ostomy would not have saved her life. I guess we could never know that, but why didn't the doctor take advantage of the moment and point out how it COULD have saved her life? Maybe they didn't want to make it seem as though vanity cost her her life, but if this were her legacy, i think it would be a good one. If we realize that living with an ostomy is still living, the choice is easy. Death lasts a long time.MirandaRose

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Omg! You are still at it? It is not their business what she thought about it or why she did not do it!! It was her personal choice and not about them. What did she think about them? Nothing! She did not know them.

You posted the link to this place already so that we can go read if we want to. You don't have to keep pasting it all here.

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OK, if the Dr. said the ostomy would not have saved her life, how can he say that it COULD have saved her life??

And truly, why in the hell do you feel the need to keep this up? Really! It just makes you look bad.

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Some people are interested. Don't read it if you are not interested. Simple. Ignore it. A person who has a diagnosis of cancer, whether it is colon, rectal, anal, etc. can definately relate. No one said it was not her personal choice. It was her choice. Why are you so upset about this? Quite frankly, why do YOU care what I post here?

lol, if they are interested, I am sure they know how to click the link you so kindly provided already. I have two very close friends with cancer and they really are not relating to what Farrah thinks about them or you.

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Same goes to you MarilynK. Don't like it, don't read it. Simple.
Hasve a nice day!

Oh, how grown up!

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No one cares what Farrah thought about them, us, or anyone. They were interested in why, when they had the same type of cancer as she did, and they had ostomies, and they are still here, in remission or cured....was she given the same opportunity/options as they were regarding treatment. If so or if not, why not? I believe that many people would question their own treatment options. Knowledge is power.

You can give it out, but you certainly cannot take it, can you?

ocassionally I am pleasantly suprised when I open a follow up thread. Sometimes there is new or different information.
Unfortunately, this is not one of those times.

Furthermore, I posed a question that you either can't or don't want to answer: If you are too ignorant to answer the question, that's fine. There's no shame in ignorance. If you just don't want to because the answer doesn't support your opinion, then that's a completely different story.

A specific procedure WOULD NOT have saved her, thus how COULD it have saved her?? Please provide your insight since you apparently know more than the rest of us.

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You said I edited things. Your word. Not mine. I never edited anything. You are using words I never said. Like I said, do not read the thread if you are not interested in it. Simple. Don't read any of my posts. Whatever. Put me on ignore. I don't care what you think.

You are asking the wrong person the question. I am not miranda rose at the ostomy board. I only C&P two posts from today from there. There just might be some people at this board who are interested how people who are currently living with cancer deal with their diagnosis/treatment. If it's the same thing Farrah had. Even if they don't have cancer or know anyone who has cancer, some people are interested. If you are not, don't read it. Skip it.

Not the OP or C&PP, but I think that what those on the ostomy board were thinking was that in opting to do a documentary in the name of educating the public about what a cancer patient endures, it saddened and frustrated them that the 'educating' did not broaden itself and include information that is often critical in saving the life of patients in similar situations.

Regarding the ostomy issue, this was just Farrah's story and not anything else. Apparently the only mentioning of an ostomy was that it would NOT save her....and I think the poster who used the word "could" was wishing that Dr. had made sure the viewers understood that it IS often a cure and taken the opportunity to explain that, rather than perhaps leave the impression that it was generally ineffective.

Information is always helpful especially regarding a "taboo" subject. I'm thinking maybe the op just wished there had been more information presented on this topic. It would have been a good time to just even put it out there, even if it didn't help her case. It may help others. Look at how Katie Couric's late husbands death opened up all kinds of discussion on getting a colonoscopy. I'm sure that has saved countless lives by bringing it out in the open. Heck, I just had one and I don't know if I would have if I didn't have all the information that's been presented on tv, etc... Knowledge IS power!

bascapline, I have thoroughtly read both posts and appreciate you posting the info, I have been searching for the appropriate word, still haven't found the one I am looking for, interesting, informative. I certainly haven't read anthing about cancer of any form that is a pleasure - except when it comes to someone being cured. My husband had bladder cancer, three of the seven children in is family have now been diagnosed with cancer, he had to have his baldder removed and now has the urine bag and while there certainly isn't anything pleasant about that, it beats the alternative. There have been SEVERAL quibbles on this board about the right to post anything and everything and while I do read every post, MOST OF THE TIME, if I don't agree or don't think it is appropriate I just don't add to the frey. I DID NOT click the link you posted, while I read the C&P's, I don't think I can go to that forum and read all the things those people have gone thru. I have a LOT of days that I just lay on the couch and "hide behind the TV" as I call it, just dealing with what cancer has done to my life. There just isn't enough of DR's sharing ALL their information from one clinic to the next, one state to the next, it just makes me sad everytime I think about all the suffering that people go thru with this disease. Just the things I have seen in our local Cancer clinic have brought me to tears so many times. I didn't watch the Farrah Documentary, just like I didn't watch the movie based on a real Parkinson's patient, my sister has Parkinson's. There is just so much pain and suffering with Cancer and I am surprised that there is so much animosity over a simple discussion about such complete life changing disease.

Thanks for advocating. It might save someone's life.

I haven't followed her illness or watched the movie, but here is a link. Watch Farrah's Story: Farrah's Story Full Length Episodes Online | Free on Fancast

ITA. This could save someone's life is right. Thanks, OP.

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Just an aside....I know it's the internet and all and there's nothing necessarily wrong with it, but there's something troublesome to me about copying and pasting people's postings from a another help community/board in other places.....just a thought. Not sure how the OP's would feel about it....would kind of bother me.

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There is no problem with it. It's an open board for anyone to read. There are doctors and nurses who are members of the board. They serve as advisors. The board's purpose is to allow people to network all over the world.

I am sorry if anyone here felt offended by what I posted on this board on this subject. It was not my intent. Not at all. I had just posted other people's thoughts, opinions, or feelings regarding Farrah Fawcett's medical maladies and her death from cancer. It is very sad what happened to Farrah. I suppose if I had posted the same thing and it had not been Farrah Fawcett, and perhaps someone who was not famous, there might not have been the same response.

Rest in peace Farrah.

It would have been the same for me. The only thing that bothers me is that there are people there that seem angry that she made the choice she did and they see it as a personal attack. I do not think that is okay to say about anyone, famous or not.

I am sure now that you do not think that way and did not post for that reason, but it was in some of the stuff you copied and pasted here and I just think it is wrong.

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Would an, "I'm sorry I misjudged you, bascapline," be too difficult?

Sorry, groovy, but IMHO you were being extremely judgmental of her based on what you *thought* you read, which is ironic considering you were angry about people who were judging Farrah.

bascapline, thanks for your insight on this matter. While I understand that as Farrah 'told' her story, it would have been impossible to fully flesh out every possible cure or remedy or 'help' that she *didn't* pursue, I can understand the frustration fellow victims of this horrible disease felt if it seemed the thing that saved their lives was not only dismissed, but labeled as unsavory. If that's what happened (and I didn't see the show, so I don't know), that's a real shame.

I know what I read and I don't like it.

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Sorry, but I still think you were out of line.

A couple of posts up, you acknowledged that you now see that bascapline herself did not express the feelings / thoughts you were attributing to her. It was the statements from those on the other message board that you found objectionable... but you had certainly been harsh towards bascapline and, I believe, even accused her of editing posts, something she had not done.

Your choice to acknowledge that you *now* see what her position is but to not apologize for smacking her around during your 'period of mis-perception' is unfortunate.

I can't change what you think and you can't change me, so I guess we move on.

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Unfortunately, you can't make someone be polite.

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There have been a few different threads - site (sic) words, teaching the significance of Memorial Day in the classroom - where various members have gone around and around with groovygirl. It does not seem to be in her DNA to acknowledge a misstep or change her mind, so as she says, it's really just better to move on. It is what it is.

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Thank you.....let's just let it go. I said I realize that it was not "her" words, but I stand by the fact that the words were typed and I do not think the people that typed them should be saying what they did. Please , just let it go. I am not changing my feelings on it.

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I did watch Farrah's Story when it was on. It was really sad to see her go thru all of what she went thru. Thanks bascapline for posting the link to the ostomy board. I could not read thru that board, but bookmarked it for another time. I do urge anyone who has not seen Farrah's Story to watch it. Like was said before. It might save 1 person's life.

It is on Hulu too
Hulu - Farrah's Story

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