Well, I hope it is settled now. His will stated he wanted his mother to have them and if she was not alive, Dianna Ross. I hope it is honored.

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IMHO, that's kind of sad. Why leave the care and custody of young children with someone older who could die before they're grown? Why not someone younger?

I am not sure what will happen now. I do think its a sad situation, because the chances of Katherine living long enough to actually raise these children to adulthood are rather slim. Then what? I have to say that with some of choices Jackson has made in the past, I am not surprised by his will. Hopefully, these young children can now have some kind of a normal life and not be hounded by the press...

Well, Dianna is not that old and the kids are not that young. I dunno....

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Diana Ross is 65 years old. No spring chicken. The children still have many years before they reach adulthood. Hopefully, one of these women lives long enough to raise them.

I just don't see that as too old to raise those kids for abut 10 years or so. I am a teacher and see many grandparents raising kids.

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Yes, you have again and again asserted that you are a teacher equating that with making you the expert. You are a teacher without a degree, you wrote in another you were working on your degree in 2001, right?

Your skills, mannerisms, and assertations leave a lot to be desired for many here.

Regarding minors, whether those of a celebrity or not, I am always hopeful that the courts will indeed have their best interest in mind when making a decision. All of the posts on the cafe about mj are hilarious with so many people getting their panties in a bunge over minors, money, parents, personal items, assets, etc.....all supposition and it comes down to none of it really having an effect on everyday people.

I am thinking hiatus........

dl

They have no mother at all, their dad is dead, and now they can have their primary emotional attachment with someone who is more likely than not to die before they themselves are married/parents.

If an aunt and uncle are stable and able, that would be my vote.

What? Look, first of all I HAVE a degree. I am full certified. I graduated and became so 12/07. I NEVER said I was an expert on who should get these kids. I only mentioned being a teacher because I was saying that I see many grand parents raising young children(I teach Kindergarten).

I don't know what crawled up your butt to cause such an attack, but I think you are way out of line. Then again, you usually are.

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ITA.

Also, if Michael Jackson was not the biological Father of these children...well...maybe Diana Ross or even Mom Katherine are not interested in raising someone else's children. Just saying.....One never knows what happened or will happen in the future.

Supposedly, Joe Jackson did emotional and physical abuse with all the children (or at least the boys in the Jackson 5). All of the boys agreed that happened. Why didn't Katherine do something to stop the abuse? How could she let it happen over and over again. Allow her husband to whip the children with belts and switches? Sorry, but that is abuse as far as I am concerned.

Just some questions here. Just thinking out loud. Is that allowed here or no?

It does not look like any aunts or uncles are up for it right now. I just know that it could be done by Mom or Diana, because I have seen it work out. I guess it might not be the best situation, though. I just hope they get the best home they can. I also think it would be good if the nanny stays involved, but again, I could be wrong. I don't really know any of these people. I only know what I see and hear and nothing bad has been said about them, yet....

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Not your kids. You don't get a vote. His kids. He picked the person he trusted the most. If the courts see an issue with this, they will address it. If you don't think your mother is the right person to take care of your kids, then get that in your will.

I'm sure she is well aware of her own age and realizes that she isn't the long term solution. In the short term, why wouldn't someone want their own mother (if they had a good trusting relationship with her) to help their kids and make decision for them through the shock of losing a parent. Just because she becomes the primary now, doesn't mean that it how it will be a year from now. Their "primary emotional" attachment just died....how do you know that their grandmother isn't the next closest thing they have?

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Wouldn't it indeed be interesting if you did know what crawled up my butt? For the record, nothing goes up, it all comes out normally and naturally.

You have stated you do not have a degree, but whatever. You also revise(d) other statements and are very much off base in many posts. You like to think a lot of people here are way out of line, so I guess I will line up with them. Right behind you.

dl

But are the grandparents you see raising kids, separated? Did Grandpa emotionally and physically abuse his children? Is Grandma 79 years old?

You find a post where I have said that I do not have a degree, posted after 12/07. You will not find it. Here is the link to where anyone can look up my certification. You are always out of line, more than any here.

https://www.teachlouisiana.net/Certi...cationpNET.asp

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Ok deddlastt...join the party. But, you are behind me. I'm first.

I am not looking for Internet friends. I have many in real life. This is just something I do on the side.

Some are single, I don't know about abuse. I do worry abut Grandpa and how much he will be around these kids. I just don't really know what is best, but Michael wanted this and I just hope the kids will be safe and happy.

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I know....I deleted. I really do not want to argue with you. You do not seem to be at all like miss d, and I really am sorry if I came down too hard on you before. Can we let it go?

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I don't have an interest in you what you say now. I don't have the time to look anything up, nor do I want to. I didn't click, but hope you didn't put your name / personal information out there for everyone on the internet.

You, though, have the time, interest, and expertise to repeatedly post about celebrities (mostly dedd) and speculate on various aspects of their lives. All of those things are so important to everyday folks.

dl

I'll think about it and let ya know!

Good enough. I tried.

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You have time to attack and say things that you have no clue about, but no time to click a link? Hmmm, sounds like you can't admit you were wrong about the degree. lol. Most people here know my name and the certification is available for the public. It is no secret. Being a teacher puts your salary, certification, etc. out for public knowledge.

I do have time to post a topic that people here were obviously interested(I AM OFF ALL SUMMER!) in and I do have interest in it myself. I do not have expertise in who should get his kids, but I never claimed to. I just said what HE wanted and that it could be done.

"The most important element of Michael's will is his unwavering desire that his mother, Katherine, become the legal guardian for his three children."

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I really don't disagree with anything you said. If they are close to their grandmother she needs to be a pivotal rock for them right now.

I'm just saying that everything about these kids' lives has been screwy from the beginning. Everything. From their conception to the fact that quite obviously, the one parent they had was a freak. I don't say that to be unkind - just a blatant observation. The condition in which his body was apparently found, the abuse he put himself through, the anorexia...

I assume his bizarre behavior was directly linked to the crazy life he lived from the minute he sang his first "la la la". It's very, very sad. Tragic, even. The things that apparently happened to MJ as a child should never have taken place.... and they directly caused him to be incredibly abnormal. I can't imagine that he was a *healthy* example for them when he was alive.

Anyway.... I realize I don't get a vote. I'm just saying that I think it would be wise for the courts to consider whether MJ's wishes will really result in those kids having the best shot at normalcy and a healthy adulthood. They've already got so many strikes against them. I realize the choice regarding who they go to was his to make, but given his own emotional instability, I would want to consider whether he was of the mental capacity to have made the *best* decision for those kids when he said he wanted his mom to take them. She may be the *best* person he knew.... but he may not have known any stellar people. There may be someone that will be *better* than her. To me, today, it's all about the lives of the kids going forward, not the wishes of a mentally ill dead man.

He was so, so very gifted. It's been fascinating seeing stuff from when I was a teenager in the 80's. I *liked* his music but I didn't fully appreciate what an *artist* he was.

It's just all very, very, very sad.

Good Lord ladies....

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Wow

Sittin around waiting for someone to open their mouths so you can jump in.

Must be a frustrating wait sometimes.....

lol............

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I think if his will said the kids are to live with his mother, then that should be honored. It's not like she'll be sitting in a house all alone with two children to raise. She's raised a household of children and I'm sure there are plenty of other grandchildren in and out of the house. Maybe a nanny, too.

They'd probably be better off with grandmother. Maybe they can now have a normal life without a freak for a 'father'.

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