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Old 07-02-2009, 01:21 AM
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Michael Jackson - Propofol Drug

Does anyone know if this is the drug they use for colonoscopies? It sure sounds like how I felt when I had mine. They put the drug in the iv, I remember thinking something for a second or two and the next thing you know I'm in recovery. I'm just curiouis. I'm sure I could call the docs office but just wondered if anyone on here knew.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:45 AM
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They most likely gave you something called Versed and Valium. Versed causes amnesia. The person responds to commands, but has no recollection of the events when it wears off or is reversed. We used it all the time in the ER -- setting bones, having to shock people's hearts when they came in awake and with crazy heart rythms.

The drug they are talking about in the Jackson case is a major league anesthetic agent. We would use it in the ED if we had to put someone out fast and for a long time. Generally people in ICUs have it to keep them unconscious. Often when they are on a ventilator to keep them asleep and from extubing themselves. It is administered by the drip and it doesn't take much. A person has to be constantly monitored. It really isn't used much if a person isn't on a ventilator because the risk of respiratory failure is great.

If what the news is reporting is true, the MD committed murder IMHO. And, that nurse on the TV is breaking all sorts of ethical and legal rules related to patient confidentiality. So, I am somewhat doubting her intelligence and thus her story.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:38 AM
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Thanks for the info!!! Versed does ring a bell. I didn't think they'd use that strong (Propolol) of a drug but one doc on tv mentioned it is sometimes used for colonoscopies. I have never had any surgeries or tests that needed medication so this was my first experience. I had 3 wisdom teeth removed with novacaine, have had two babies and 21 stitches in my hand for a dog bite. Do they use Versed for oral surgery? If so I'm going that route if I ever need major dental work!
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:51 AM
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I'm a Recovery Room nurse (PACU). We recover alot of colnoscopies and EGD's, and I've never heard of any of them getting Diprivan. They always get Demerol, versed or Valium.
A Diprivan drip is only used on pt's that are on ventilators, and the pt is constantly hooked up to a machine that measures their blood pressure, heart rate, and O2 sat. It is titrated (the dosage changed, based on the pt's needs) according to how hard they are fighting the ventilator. NEVER is it used without constant monitoring.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:27 AM
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Does anyone know if this is the drug they use for colonoscopies
Why is this person ALLOWED to do this in every thread?
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:17 AM
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Does anyone know if this is the drug they use for colonoscopies
...because if it is, we'd like to shove it right up there for you, Giovanni!
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:23 AM
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Does anyone know if this is the drug they use for colonoscopies? It sure sounds like how I felt when I had mine. They put the drug in the iv, I remember thinking something for a second or two and the next thing you know I'm in recovery. I'm just curiouis. I'm sure I could call the docs office but just wondered if anyone on here knew.
You were going to call your doctor to find out something rumored about a celebrity perhaps using a specific drug? Really?

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:02 PM
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You were going to call your doctor to find out something rumored about a celebrity perhaps using a specific drug? Really?

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I was thinking of calling the doc to see what drug that gave ME during my colonoscopy.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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Kathy, it never hurts to find out what the medications used during surgery are; especially if you end up with some sort of allergic reaction. Most people who walk into our office have a reaction to something during surgery. Getting the names of any items used to even clean the skin is a great thing to get because quite a few people get a skin reaction. Just like people can have a reaction to latex. It is harder to get a list of items used during surgery too far after as it goes into the patient's chart.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:19 PM
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It is harder to get a list of items used during surgery too far after as it goes into the patient's chart.
HUH???


If it's in the chart, it's a permanent record. Most records I've seen (yes, I've seen a lot!) do include that information, even when they are years old.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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In thinking back I'm pretty sure now they said it was versed and demerol. And no negative reactions to anything-that's always good!
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:55 PM
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Hey Kts how are you hon hope all is well and if you could find out information to share with us here, more information is always helpful good luck hon.. Take care for now.. Peace. Catherine
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:38 PM
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Charts if not a current patient typically goes into storage and takes a longer length of time to obtain from storage as not all facilities keep records on site. And most surgeries are done at an out patient surgery location or at a hospital and if you only go there sporatically those charts do go into storage. Thus making it more difficult to obtain the records. Hope this clarifies.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:57 AM
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Wow, I didn't realize what I was stepping in. I'm stumped.
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