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Old 07-13-2009, 11:45 PM
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COmmon sense would be to watch where your walking.

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Now it's the owrkers fault too, but geesh come on, how many times as kids was we told to watch where we're going? heheh
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:08 AM
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A couple of weeks ago in the town 50miles south of us, a group of girls were walking across a busy 4 lane street, 3of the girls made it across. 1 girl was texting and walked out in front of car, was struck and killed. It is very sad. All because she was to busy looking at her phone and not paying attention to the road.
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:28 AM
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OMGosh, that poor girl fell down the poop chute! I mean, she was in 4 inches of raw crap! EWWWW! Poor thing, she was banged up, even had a cut on her forehead! I see a HUGE lawsuit.......

A blind friend of mine fell into an open manhole at a university campus. He was walking by himself, was using his white cane, and the cane tip swept right around the hole, he never detected it and fell into the hole. He was not hurt, but very shaken up! Can you imagine being blind and having this happen? Luckily for him, it was NOT a sewage hole, but a service one instead. That poor girl was lucky, considering my friend and his experience!! Oh, no, I don't know WHY the manhole at the university was left open like that.........it's just a story he told to me years ago. He never sued. I told him he was a fool!

That texting sure gets people into all kinds of trouble, doesn't it? LOL I'm glad she wasn't hurt seriously---- probably just her silly little diva pride was hurt more than anything. I would still file a lawsuit against the county though! This might have been a GOOD thing that happened to her, in the end, if they can win a settlement. And I don't see why they couldn't!! Especially since the workers admitted they left it unattended like that to go and get cones, or signs, or markers or whatever it was they said they were going to get to mark the hole!~ IDIOTS!
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:31 AM
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Wow...I bet she pays attention the next time she takes a stroll. Watching where you are going is a little more important than texting your friends. Wouldn't surprise me if the mom sues. If I were the teen, I would just want it to go away...soon!
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:46 AM
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Stupidity and neglect on both parts. So she was too busy texting. Yes, of course the mom should sue ! Then she can get the girl a car so she can drive while texting, and maybe even secure the irresponsible child's future of expecting even more and more when she was, in part, responsible.

Personally, I would have a form of parental punishment, not be on tv, and make it a life lesson in being responsible, attentive, and paying attention to the task at hand, which was first and foremost, walking. Not texting.

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Old 07-14-2009, 08:06 AM
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Stupidity and neglect on both parts. So she was too busy texting. Yes, of course the mom should sue ! Then she can get the girl a car so she can drive while texting, and maybe even secure the irresponsible child's future of expecting even more and more when she was, in part, responsible.

Personally, I would have a form of parental punishment, not be on tv, and make it a life lesson in being responsible, attentive, and paying attention to the task at hand, which was first and foremost, walking. Not texting.

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Wow, I kinda see your point...........but at the same time, the girl WAS on the sidewalk, minding her own business, walking along..........it's not like she was out in the street, OR behind the wheel....She wasn't drunk, or high, or acting up, she was just using her phone. It's not illegal to walk on a sidewalk and text.... so she wasn't doing anything wrong.

This was just an unfortunate thing (and funny since she wasn't hurt badly!) that happened to someone. The REAL stupidity here is NOT on the girl's part, but on the WORKER'S, who left the manhole uncovered!
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:41 AM
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This was just an unfortunate thing (and funny since she wasn't hurt badly!) that happened to someone. The REAL stupidity here is NOT on the girl's part, but on the WORKER'S, who left the manhole uncovered!
It's good very good thing she wasn't hurt...but at BEST I'd have to think this is a 50/50 thing.

My parents always told me to watch where I was going. If I ran into something or stepped on something, it was my fault if I wasn't paying attention. What ever happened to that?

Too many people - teens AND adults - have their faces and fingers glued to their damn phones. It's disgusting and ridiculous. No one...and I mean NO ONE - needs to be glued to their phone like that. Doctors on call don't get as much phone time as many other people and they DO need to be available every minute on call! "Hee-Hee"ing on the phone with girlfriends every minute of the day is just not necessary.

If people spent as much time taking personal accountability for their mistakes/mishaps as they did trying to figure out how to work up a lawsuit from a situation, this world would be a whole differennt place.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:15 AM
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Too many people - teens AND adults - have their faces and fingers glued to their damn phones. It's disgusting and ridiculous. No one...and I mean NO ONE - needs to be glued to their phone like that. "Hee-Hee"ing on the phone with girlfriends every minute of the day is just not necessary.
"Hee-Hee"ing?" You mean, like Michael Jackson? LOL Sorry--I couldn't resist!! I agree---people are too glued to their phones now, ESPECIALLY when driving!!!!!! I am one of the few people left who hardly ever uses a cellphone. I have one, but it is an emergency phone I got from SafeLinkWireless.com, for handicapped people, and I use it maybe twice a month, IF that! I never drive and talk because I cannot drive, thank god! The government tried to make driving and celling illegal, but it isn't working, is it?

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If people spent as much time taking personal accountability for their mistakes/mishaps as they did trying to figure out how to work up a lawsuit from a situation, this world would be a whole differennt place.
Do you remember what is was like back in, say, the mid 80's when we didn't have cellphones? Remember the first ones that came out, that maybe your boss had at work? If was HUGE! It was twice as big as a cordless phone and had a ridiculously long thick antenna, hahahha. And now they are so small! Do you remember how if you needed a phone, you had to hunt down change for the payphone? Now you can hardly locate a payphone anymore! Isn't that something?
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:10 PM
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"Hee-Hee"ing?" You mean, like Michael Jackson? LOL Sorry--I couldn't resist!! I agree---people are too glued to their phones now, ESPECIALLY when driving!!!!!! I am one of the few people left who hardly ever uses a cellphone. I have one, but it is an emergency phone I got from SafeLinkWireless.com, for handicapped people, and I use it maybe twice a month, IF that! I never drive and talk because I cannot drive, thank god! The government tried to make driving and celling illegal, but it isn't working, is it?
LOL!! Yes, I HEARD that Michael Jackson squeal in my head.

I don't have as much of a problem with people using their phone as I do with the situations in which they use it. Driving? Use a hands free. Texting? It doesn't need to be done incessantly. Give it a rest already.

I'm not stupid about cell phones, I think they're great. I think the features are great too, but as people do, it's abused right into the ground. It's all about the "I want" micro chip aliens have planted in so many people's heads.


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Do you remember what is was like back in, say, the mid 80's when we didn't have cellphones? Remember the first ones that came out, that maybe your boss had at work? If was HUGE! It was twice as big as a cordless phone and had a ridiculously long thick antenna, hahahha. And now they are so small! Do you remember how if you needed a phone, you had to hunt down change for the payphone? Now you can hardly locate a payphone anymore! Isn't that something?
I do. I had one, but it wasn't huge and they were called car phones! LOL!! It was probably about a touch bigger than a normal wall princess phone. It wasn't curved though, it was straight. I plugged it into my lighter to charge it.

Finding a pay phone now? Forget it! I feel sorry sometimes for those that don't want all that invasive technology. They're sort of left stranded in an emergency. I kind of feel a little in awe of people that can have the courage to be a bit more technology free.

I can do you one better - do you remember when phones were used for....<gasp>...CALLING someone? Hehe, now they do everything but nuke your leftover pizza.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:40 PM
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While I agree it was somewhat negligent on the girls part for not watching where she was going. But I would say it was GROSS negligence on the part of the workers who left it unattended. Whle the girl was only scratched up good, what would have happened if it had been a small child playing on the sidewalk. We all know many times small children don't always watch where they are walking or running.
I would say that mother NEEDS to file a lawsuit if for no more reason than to teach the city/county to hire more responsible workers than what those were, to prevent some small child from being injured or worse.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:07 AM
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While I agree it was somewhat negligent on the girls part for not watching where she was going. But I would say it was GROSS negligence on the part of the workers who left it unattended. Whle the girl was only scratched up good, what would have happened if it had been a small child playing on the sidewalk. We all know many times small children don't always watch where they are walking or running.
I would say that mother NEEDS to file a lawsuit if for no more reason than to teach the city/county to hire more responsible workers than what those were, to prevent some small child from being injured or worse.
Dependent upon your definition of a small child....mine would be that a responsible adult or older child would be with that child. Sidewalks are next to, or only separated from the roadway by a swale of maybe 3 feet or so. I wouldn't expect a small child to play or walk or run on a sidewalk next to a street unattended.

I also remain firm about no lawsuit in this case. Strong discipline on both parts. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that had there been discipline, rules, and regulations on both parts, this would not have happened. Teaching on the part of the mother needs to start at home, not in a court.

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Old 07-15-2009, 07:39 AM
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While I agree it was somewhat negligent on the girls part for not watching where she was going. But I would say it was GROSS negligence on the part of the workers who left it unattended. Whle the girl was only scratched up good, what would have happened if it had been a small child playing on the sidewalk. We all know many times small children don't always watch where they are walking or running.
I would say that mother NEEDS to file a lawsuit if for no more reason than to teach the city/county to hire more responsible workers than what those were, to prevent some small child from being injured or worse.
Nope...I don't agree with a lawsuit. How about taking responsibilty for your own stupidity. That is one of the biggest problems in society right now....its always someone elses fault. I also think that people sue over anything and everything.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:29 AM
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My DH works for the county road department, and leaving a manhole uncovered like this is not only irresponsible, it is terribly negligent. An action like that would be grounds for being fired!
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Teaching on the part of the mother needs to start at home, not in a court.

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There is absolutely no excuse for leaving that cover off the hole. None.

Also, there is expectation on the part of the girl who lived in there, that there had always been a walkway there and there was no warning sign, (cones, barricade, etc.), that the walkway had been changed.

If you do something repeatedly and all is well, you certainly don't feel the need to keep checking.

I don't like the amount of texting that is done either, but the majority of the blame lies with the workers. She could have been reading a book, looking for something in her purse, watching something happening up the street. The texting is not the problem in this case.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:35 PM
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Reguardless of whether she was using a cell phone or not ,that manhole should have had some kind red tape around it or something.I think its the companys fault.That was a plain out hazzaard to leave it like that.Not everybody stares at the ground the whole time they are walking.All it takes a minor distraction for an accident like this to happen.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:47 PM
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I just LOVE the way the Mom talks about "what could've" happened. It reminds me of an episode of King of the Hill where Peggy says "What happened is not as important as what COULD'VE happened" in an hilarious episode relating to people freaking out over just that.

She should watch where she is walking. It is our RESPONSIBILITY (doesn't anyone whom we read about in the papers and make fun of here know what that means???) to pay attention to what we are doing. I am an idiot if I fall into a hole on a sidewalk. It's not like it was covered by grass or dirt or anything.

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Old 07-15-2009, 02:48 PM
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[quote=wildwood;3280979]There is absolutely no excuse for leaving that cover off the hole. None.

Also, there is expectation on the part of the girl who lived in there, that there had always been a walkway there and there was no warning sign, (cones, barricade, etc.), that the walkway had been changed.

If you do something repeatedly and all is well, you certainly don't feel the need to keep checking.

I don't like the amount of texting that is done either, but the majority of the blame lies with the workers. She could have been reading a book, looking for something in her purse, watching something happening up the street. The texting is not the problem in this case.[/QUOTE

I agree...texting is not the problem. I think paying attention to where you are walking and taking reponsibilty for your own actions is! I don't think it would have mattered if she was texting, reading a book or looking for something in her purse, she wasn't paying attention to where she was walking....if she had been, it wouldn't have happened.. Willing to bet you this will end in a lawsuit, I am sure the lawyers are lining up rubbing their hands together....
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Reguardless of whether she was using a cell phone or not ,that manhole should have had some kind red tape around it or something.I think its the companys fault.That was a plain out hazzaard to leave it like that.Not everybody stares at the ground the whole time they are walking.All it takes a minor distraction for an accident like this to happen.
You don't have to "stare at the ground". I've seen plenty of things I needed to side-step merely by holding my head at normal level and being aware of things around me. Don't you?

There could have been red tape all around that manhole, and since she was engrossed in TEXTING, she could have stumbled right through it. I've seen people stumble into doors because because of texting. Thank God elevators doors are normally closed, I know of at least 2 people at work that would have fallen straight down the shaft engrossed in their damn phones.

Agreed that the company does have some responsibility, but SO DOES THE GIRL. To me it's a wash on both sides, but who knows.

Too many people are taught to take ZERO responsibility for any of their own actions, even if they're just partly to blame. What scares me is THESE are the people that will be taking care of me and running the country when I'm old. That should be scary to about everyone.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:59 AM
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I just LOVE the way the Mom talks about "what could've" happened. It reminds me of an episode of King of the Hill where Peggy says "What happened is not as important as what COULD'VE happened" in an hilarious episode relating to people freaking out over just that.
Moms often talk about "what could have happened". I know I did when my son narrowly missed being in the World Trade Center on 9/11. It gave me nightmares for months. I know I did when my, then, teenage daughter wrapped our car, (it left the house as a standard Taurus and ended up an L-shaped convertible), around a telephone pole and got out with a severely sprained ankle. That's what we do. Some of us just do it more and better.
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