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| Would You Try To Demean Someone Else's God? Quote:
I don't happen to believe in Allah but I would NEVER go on a message board and talk trash about any group's deity - obviously, Dollydeal doesn't have the same consideration. We all believe different things and I know it's difficult to understand how someone can worship someone or something that you don't believe exists but have you ever tried to demean someone else's God? If you did, what was your motivation? I don't see what would be accomplished by doing it except to offend and antagonize the believers. Can you think of any other reason to talk about having sex with the deity that any group worships? |
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Your question made me think about the fact that the Buddha actually DID have sex, because he had a child, and a wife, and he ended up leaving behind his wife and child to seek enlightenment. That story is an important one in the history of Buddhism. I think it is fine to talk of stories of that nature, but to insult is another type of story! However, think back in your life, and think of how many religious jokes you've heard. Tons of them, I'm sure. We all must have a sense of humor, after all, right? But as adults, with consideration and respect for others, we must know it isn't nice to put down another person's spiritual beliefs. We've got to be respectful. A joke is okay, but an insult is not. I am going to give the person in the other thread you are referring to the benefit of the doubt and believe that she didn't mean any disrespect by it. Perhaps she's just feelin' frisky today! Have a great weekend! |
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You're right--you were NOT the person who brought up the "s" word! Your comment in the other thread was so unexpected, I nearly sprayed out my mouthful of milk all over my pc screen! :P I'm glad I was able to keep it all in, LOL, I just GOT this new laptop! |
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Opaldancing...why don't you just leave it to us grown-ups to decide whether or not we are offended. Nice of you to come to our rescue, though. Rebecca |
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I was kinda thinking the same thing. I didn't find anything offensive-- I knew it was meant to be a joke, or sarcasm, whatever-- so I didn't take it as seriously as OpalDancing did. (Sorry you've been getting so upset easily lately--you kinda got on my butt earlier this week, and I sure was hoping that by this weekend you would be in much better spirits!) :-)
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YOU must have meant to stir up trouble by posting this trash on a coupons board so why are you now trying to pretend you're some kind of victim? You said it and this tired old routine on this board of user names deleting their offensive remarks later and trying to pretend they never existed is getting old. Once posted, they exist and all the denials and deletions don't change that. And doesn't answer my question either. Quote:
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For someone who was soooo offended by that sarcastic comment I made you sure like to quote it a lot.LOL ! Ya, I'll play victim for a little while I guess, if your going to keep attacking me. |
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To answer the question, no I would not try to demean someone else's God. My Dad is Roman Catholic and my Mom is Methodist. I was raised Catholic, but I've always found other religions to be interesting. Perhaps because there are some things that I disagree with about my own religion. I had alot of Jewish friends when I lived up in NJ so I know a fair amount about their customs and religion. I think I'm pretty open minded when it comes to religion and spirituality. I don't think I've ever had any Muslim friends, so I really don't know what their religion is about. I think that everyone has a right to believe in what they want to...and you have to respect that. My former boss was an Atheist. I enjoyed talking to him and seeing why he became an Atheist and his views on why he didn't believe in God. ~Lisa
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True! Sometimes its hard to tell, even with emoticons and LOL's; non-visual and non-audible communication can be tricky sometimes. Even if you are blind, you can still hear inflections in people's voices in conversations. On a message board, nada! Sometimes things are taken wrong, that's all. |
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No I wouldnt, I'm not really religious, but I enjoy learning about others beliefs as long as it's not thrust upon me
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| Never mind .... BTW - you deleted the "offensive" post right? Isn't there some rule about members not continuing to post things that have been deleted? I seem to remember a huge bruhaha about that a few months ago. As I recall, one particular member thought I was absolutely horrible for posting something that had been deleted. Funny ........... |
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Dollydeal I sincerely and honestly cannot believe my eyes that you would decide to choose Jesus to go on a date with and then further comment about forget the date lets just go to the hotel and f....., sorry Dollydeal that comment was far the worse I have ever read on the boards, Caddylisa made the original post about dating a celebrity and you could not think of one. Again that comment you made is so disgraceful, no matter what religion you are or not, I would never ever in a zillion years think to ever make a disgusting comment like you did ... Again no peace here... You should if you religious go to church and ask God for his forgiveness... Catherine
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Dollydeal no where did I ever say, you should not post here anymore, believe me I have been told many things and I am still here. But honestly dd can you for one moment take a step back and sincerely take a moment to reflect on that comment, do you honestly and sincerely do not feel it was in bad taste. I am assuming most posters here just basically feel the same way and if so many posters are upset by that comment do you might think for a moment it was wrong and in bad taste. Listen we are all entitled to our personal views, But I have learned some topics are taboo and posters will react the way they did with your comments. It probably was not so bad to say you choose Jesus as a date but then to go and say forget about the date lets just go f..../ Hon that statement was sorry and not funny at all. Again no one asked you here to leave or not to post, that is your choice, but I think you must realize what you wrote. As far as I know Jesus was a virgin and never married, to even suggest him or even make that comment, cmon you must realize it was not right... Peace. Catherine
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You should really quit playing the victim/martyr. No one is making you out as evil. No one is making you out as "everything" you post as being offensive. You posted ONE thing today that was offensive to some. Take responsibility for that and move the hell on! I see these "I'm just going to leave" posts as a pathetic attempt for attention. Hey, I think I even posted it "I'm leaving" posts many, many years ago--and that was a just an attention seeking action. Go or stay--it's up to YOU. Either you can build a bridge and get over it. Or you can't.
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Oh goodie a "I am leaving, never posting again" post. I haven't seen one in such a long time. Wonder how long this poster will be gone. People get really riled up about stuff on this board. It isnt real life! Unless you know the poster in real life and have to deal with them "for real" then ignore them and caulk it up to stupidity, ignorance or something similar. I know that I dont come here as much as I used to, I accidentally went and got an overly busy life, BUT... who the hell cares what others think or do. Unless, it impacts you personally in real life, laugh it off and move on.
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HOLY COW!!!! Now I remember why I stopped stopping by. And I used to think I was one of the controversial posters. Back to the original question..... would I demean someone else's God??? I guess hypothetically yes, if that God was some sort of wack job that the person was claiming told them to kill people or some other such nonsense. I would feel compelled to tell them that I don't believe any God would do such a thing. I guess that could be considered as demeaning.
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Hmm this can be one of those "tricky" questions. What is meant by someones " god " ??. I also have to agree with allinaugust I would have to know what is meant by their " god ". My very good friend is Atheist alt ho we really don't talk about her beliefs vs mine shes has never try to push what she believes and I have never tried to change her. Think its better we leave each other alone on this subject as it really doesn't effect how we feel about each other.
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To answer the question, while I would nor demean anyone else's "god", "goddess", or beliefs, I am an Atheist and will not back down from my opinion that what I believe are fairy tales have caused a huge amount of death and strife in the name of religion. If believing in a diety and worshipping with others in a building makes one happy, so be it. Just don't come knocking on my door trying to "convert" me.
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AHHH, my work here is done
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MomOfBoys, this is exactly how I felt. Fairy Tales, that is just what I felt my whole life. Death and Strife. You couldn't have said it better. I however, am a Buddhist, and I became interested in Buddhism when I learned it was a 'religion' that had no deity. No God. (Buddhism is really considerd a philosophy by many because of this lack of deity). The Buddha does not count as a "God"--he was real person. like Jesus, who became enlightened 500 years before Jesus was even born. The Buddha taught that everything we see is an illusion, because everything is constantly changing. It has taught me how to look at things scientifically, not based on faith, and how to be a person filled with lovingkindness for all sentient beings. I won't back down either. My DH, believe it or not, is a "Bible Thumping Baptist!" I kid you not! How do we do it? How do we not kill each other? We respect each other's beliefs and never ever try to convince the other that they are wrong, foolish, stupid, having spiritual pipe dreams, whatever. And that is what he and I expect from not only each other, but from everybody. Don't proselytize. Don't insult. Be Mindful, of what you are about to say, or even think. Because what you think eventually comes out of your mouth. Be kind to each other. |
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I received an email today with a religion "joke" in it. Three little boys were trying to find out why no one would play with them. They figured it was because they were never baptised. So, they asked the janitor to baptise them. He dunked them in the toilet. They then tried to figure out what religion they were baptised. 'We're not Kathlick, because they pour the water on you.' 'We're not Babtits, because they dunk all of you in the water.' 'We're not Methdiss, because they just sprinkle water on you.' The littlest one said, 'Didn't you smell that water?!' They all joined in asking, 'Yeah! What do you think that means?'  'I think it means we're Pisscopailians. Would that be offensive to Episcopalians? Is this considered demeaning a God/religion?
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