Court docs: Octomom inks showbiz deal for tots - omg! news on Yahoo!

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I won't be watching this mess either. I just said that to my DD last night when we saw some promotional spot for it. ~Lisa

I don't watch any reality shows. I don't get what the attraction is. I think they are all fabricated or, at best, the people in them are manipulated by the show's producer.

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I don't think that I will be tuning in either, but others will. There will be those that are curious to see what this very unstable woman is like and will want to watch. Can't resist a trainwreck.


I skimmed the article and it mentioned that the children will be paid and the money put into a trust which cannot be touched until they are of legal age.

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I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!

I don't think I'd be interested in this show at all. Just watching the Super Nanny gave me a headache. But 8 or them? No wait, how many does she have?!! No amount of Excendrin could get me through it...!

No way will I watch.

I really like reality TV but this show has zero interest for me. I think it would just make me sad because I don't think she is all that great a mom to begin with. I guess she needs the money to support the kids but after all we've seen on her I'm sure it's also because she is just a needy attention hog.

only a % of their earnings will go into the trust.

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Let the network and the sponsors know what you think. Not that that will perhaps change anything, but money talks. Don't buy their products. Yes, I realize it will be hard to pinpoint sponsors until it actually airs.

When I see some of the shows being sponsored by specific products/companies, it makes me nauseous to imagine the money spent and that their products could cost so much less.

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I hope that the show is successful.I don't know why anyone would want this family to fail.

It takes a show to make a family successful?

You need to think again, that thought is more problematic than any amount of typed words can convey.

I didn't read where anyone wanted this "family" to fail. The point is, this is yet another case of not being responsible, looking for handouts from others, and exploitation. Responsibility would be having the number of children you can nurture, raise, watch over, support, and help each succeed. Looking for handouts is exactly what a reality show is. It snowballs and soon the focus isn't really on the children, but the perks. Exploitation, well that should be obvious.

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Well, if it is successful, it will definately send the message that it's perfectly okay to be insanely irresponsible. Just stick out one's greedy little hand, someone will fill it. NOT cool.

Many moons ago, people used to have 8, 10, 14, 18 children regularly. Can you imagine any of those families having them all out of wedlock, or expecting the world to take care of them? I think not. But then again, things weren't all about "I want! I want! I want!" back then.

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I find it sickening for ANY mother to sell her children. These babies are on a pay roll of 250.00 per day ( limited days). It's not like they can add anything to the show they CAN'T EVEN TALK,So it's totally for the greed of the mother. Sickening to me. What about her disable children ?. Will this money NOT cut into their benefits ?( SSI ). So if she takes the money from the show and spends it on herself again how in the world will these children receive services that are provided per their disability's ?. More money she has the more out of pocket she will have to pay for services needed. I'm sure that will NOT happen since she banked the SSI money but mooching off the system and her mom to get what she wanted which was MORE kids she couldn't afford.

Wonder if she will pay back CA for the food stamps she received while hording 100 K ? crying poor me I can feed my kids ,but I can pay for IVF's treatments.

What about her paying her children back for the money she STOLE yes I said stole from them to bank for the IVF's treatments she did. Per her own words she used their SSI money to help pay for the IVF's.

Omg this is so screwed up it doesn't even make sense to me.

She is a sick puppy in my book.
Liar, thief and a fraud also comes to mind.

Those kids are here. Do you really want to see them starve? The amount of hatred directed towards this woman is unfathomable to me. Without the show, I don't see how any of them can survive. I don't think that this woman is any more irresponsible than the Duggars or the Gosselings.

Shame on anyone who is wishing for the failure of this family. Get over it. Worry about your own lives.

Starve ? Hmm why should we worry about them starving when their OWN mother didn't ?( tongue in cheek of course ).. Hmm no that is one thing these kids will never do is go hungry, as long as shes around to STEAL from the system they will not go hungry ever. That 100 Plus K she tucked away for the IVF's treatments could have paid for many many many meals for the kids.

P.s why don't you go ask octomom is she was worried about her babies going hungry I'm sure her answer Will shock you.

P.s you are right, as far as SELLING their children they all are in the same bunch.

As far as providing for their children, haven't seen any of them(Duggars or the Gosselings) drawing food stamps or SSI while tucking away 10's of thousands of dollars to bring in more kids they can't afford.

I don't hate her, I don't like her or anyone thats like her.
There's not much to really like about her, she abused the system ( food stamps and SSI, Student loans or grants ). She is a liar ( why she was getitng food stamps And school loans or grants to start with ) and free rent ( her own mother didnt know she had the money ).And personally she's not a good person in my book. Shes not a person with any kind of morals at all and thus doesn't get the respect from me nor people that can see thru this.

No, I don't want to see them starve. I want to see them with parents/families that can support them not only emotionally (which is questionable with Natalie!) and financially. Not gonna happen in their current situation. But no, it's horrible <gasp!> to even think such a horrible thing, much less put it into play. Best to just hand people like this money and give 'em all the goodies most people have to actually work for.

What I find unfathomable is that there are folks that feel her behavior is OKAY. I fully understand these children need to be taken care of, but that's not the way. Handing this woman a TV show once again sends the message that it's okay to have as many kids as you want. If you can't support them, it's okay! Someone else will step up. You just make sure YOU do what YOU want. (General you)

Why don't you find this woman's intentions unfathomable? Why don't you find ANY woman that does this unfathomable? I can't understand why anyone would defend having EIGHT MORE CHILDREN on top of the SIX she can't support - Grandma and Grandpa have to do it. She wanted to have more kids - that's it. I guess for some people it shouldn't matter if you can't afford, you can't provide - if you just have a want, then by God you fill that want! Seriously? Unreal.

As far as the Duggars and the Gosselings? I don't know much about the Jon and Kate thing, but if you can't see the difference between people that are married and have some financial sense (Duggars are amazing), then you can't be seeing the full picture. Natalie Suleman is in a class by herself.

When my tax dollars stop going to support women like this and people that do whatever they want as long as they can rely on government aid? Then I'll get over it.

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I do not watch reality tv. Most of what I know is from these boards.

I do not find the Duggers amazing. The food they eat is of very poor quality nutritionally. I do not understand how so many people lived in a 1000 square foot house with maybe 2 baths. I think that it would be absolutely gross.

Frankly, I think that some hoseholds might be better off without a dad at home.

Why condemn Octomom and not the Duggers or Gosselings? They're all crazy if you ask me.
I probably haven't followed this as closely as you, but I have heard no one say that people should pop out a minimum of 16 children nor that it's a good idea to try to raise a herd of children by yourself.

I don't think that any of these people would even be doing these shows if they did not need the money. Maybe we could give Octomom Kate's "do" as punishment.

Why not direct your hatred towards someone who deserves it like the Texas mom who cut her baby's head off and ate three of his toes?

Fascinating that anyone would equate the show being a 'success' with the family not failing.

J&K+8 is a hot commodity and a 'success' in the eyes of those who make money from it. Sadly, the family failing is *making* it more successful because of the train wreck factor.

Drama sells. I doubt octomom's kids need any more drama than she has already provided.

I guess we must quantify success differently, but I don't have any apprehension in stating that I believe I am right and you are wrong, kvmj.

The Duggars, while very much different than most of us, seem to be raising responsible, secure children in an environment that places a high value on a strong work ethic, responsibility, and empathy for the other members in their family. The parents - both of them - are physically and emotionally present for their children. They do not seem to be selfish, self-aggrandizing, materialistic, it's-all-about-me people. Are they different? You betcha. But my guess is that those children will grow up to have a low divorce rate, a high level of marital satisfaction, and will not likely ever rely on public assistance.

For the J&K family, I see parents who have ceased to be there for there children physically or emotionally. The fact that their father, who used to be present in their lives on a daily basis, now seems to have taken wings and flown to Europe to hang with a hot young thing has created a void that is surely not healthy to their emotional development. Their mother has a history of getting pretty cranky and if she was cranky before, now that she has eight kids on her own, with a crazy travel schedule and a divorce to deal with, I can't imagine she's not a little preoccupied. I predict the Gosselin (sp?) kids will end up with multiple divorces and a low level of marital satisfaction almost across the board. Their therapy bills will be outrageous.

Octomom is not mentally stable. I think the Lord didn't create us as asexual beings for a reason. It takes two to launch a life, and I think a child is best served when the two who created that life are involved in fostering the growth of that life. I don't buy into that crap about one parent being just as good. That's not to say that there aren't situations where it is *necessary* for one parent to go it alone, and that the kids of those parents have no chance. They do. But the best, most ideal scenario is a loving mom AND a loving dad, both present and accounted for, working a job, requiring the children to be responsible and modeling healthy respect for others. I don't see any of those things present for Octomom. SHE created the scenario that was full of voids and then brought kids into it.

The "formula" for raising a child to be a stable, happy, productive member of society is not failproof, and a child raised in a situation where the 'formula' isn't present can very well grow from those experiences and become better for them.

But the law of averages says that the kids from a family like J&K's and Octo's are more likely to end up in need of serious therapy. I predict that there will be MORE screwed up adults in 20 years coming out of the Gosselin and Octo households than the Duggars.

Let's meet back here in 2029 and confer. lol

ETA: I wanted to add one more thing. The key to the Duggars success is, IMHO, the fact that they not only have faith, but they are modeling a life that is consistent with that faith. I don't agree with all of their doctrine, but unlike the Gosselin's, they aren't bringing their children up in an environment that is supposedly based on faith (they Gosselin's started out churchy and spoke in many churches, from what I understand) and then when the kids are just at an age where they are processing the values their parents 'preach', the parents go off and turn their world upside down by violating them. That is, imho, extremely harmful to the development of a child.

Quite the dilemma, eh? If she hadn't had the IVF there would be no babies to starve to death for your entertainment. She was probably getting food stamps and welfare because the state of California doesn't think that children should starve or be naked and homeless.She isn't the first person to receive a grant. She should be disqualified? Why?

Octomom is no more irresponsible than any other family that produces a litter. I can guarantee that all of these families would be hungry if they didn't have the shows.

Butm hey, maybe Octomom had all those kids so you could feel morally superior.

Faith or no, the Duggers would never have had the money to raise their kids without the show. I would be willing to bet that their were times in their lives when they relied on food stamps and welfare.

In my opinion, everyone has there own way of dealing with the cards that are dealt to them.Having the life that Octomom has chosen may not be the way I would believe to be a good way of living my life but its the path she has chosen and I can respect that.Until there is a law controlling how many babies a person can have than its something that is going to happen again and again because it is allowed.

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Nope she got food stamps because she LIED about not having enough money to fed the 6 children she had at home.For the life of me don't understand how you can defend someone that CLEARLY lied in order to gain welfare. I can understand coming to the defense to say "she have a choice/ right to have her children" but to defend her STEALING from the food stamp program I don't get that part at all. You think it's OK for her to tuck away 100 K and then ask for hand outs, wonder what would happen if everyone thought HEY she did it so why can't we. Now you talk about a program that will go broke and have starving children, elderly and disable people not able to get out and work to fed them self.

As far as her school, she her self said she took the grant money to also fund for the IVF's treatments, Do you really think thats what this money was suppose to go for ??.Do you NOT understand that loans and grants as given for the people that want an education but can't afford the cost of books, fees, and sometimes housing, Do you really believe the school would have given her grants if she put down well don't have a bank account but I have tucked away 100 K for IVF ?.

SSI thats is NOT her money to fund her need for MORE children. That money is for the UPKEEP OF HER CHILDREN that receive it. She has a duty to use that money set forth by the LAWS. Its to pay for housing, care, food,medicines, school, special services and thing that those children need thats what that money is there for. She is only allowed XX amount of dollars for housing and things like lights, gas, water for the FAMILY. And I can PROMISE you SSI didn't know she had a 100K or else her children wouldn't be receiving the benefit's of SSI as its based on assets and income. so once again she LIED on that too.As far as using it for rent her own mother said she didn't pay for living there, so she STOLE that money allowed for rent for her own personal gain !!.

Entertainment hardly, I will come to most anyones defense if I think they are being accused of something thats not been PROVEN . I will also defend someones rights to get SSI, Food Stamps, Welfare as I have done this time and time again on this board. But I'll be damn if I come to a persons defense when its been proved PER HER OWN WORDS what she did and what she used the proceeds for.

Maybe you can defend her actions, however me I see nothing more than a selfish, lying, thieving person that will do most anything and HAS to gain what she wants rather than asking for help because she really needs it.
With 100 K She could have provided a lot for her children at home with food, housing and what ever else they may have needed. So NO I don't feel sorry for her and her plot of having 14 children when she already had 6 at home that she couldn't provide for because she wanted MORE children that Gesh SHE CAN'T AFFORD EITHER !!.. You can call it anything you want. It's still slices and dices the same, She's a very selfish person.

I feel sorry for those children because now THEY are going to be placed in the publics eyes because their mother thought nothing more than herself, So now here she is with 14 children, no job no other way to provide for her children OTHER than her children being the " new bunch" on the block of world wide television. Had she "cared" about the well being of the ones she had at home she would have taken that 100 K and finished her schooling, gotten a job in her field and kept her children OUT of the publics living room.It must be hard to know growning up your every move will be televised for the whole world to see. She exploited her children for her own selfish gain and I find a lot of fault in that,. I don't agree with her, the Duggars or the Gosselings for that. Children need to be children and how the hell can they live a "normal" or anything close to normal life when you have camera people flming your every move ?. I never watched either show of the other 2, but I do recall the time that woman Kat(?) filmed her children's 1st poppy. thats a disgrace !. The poor child can't even potty w/o s1 wanting to "see" it. Sickening. Children are not their parents MEAL TICKETS.

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Ahhhh Ok, Guess I'm out of the loop. Gesh living in the world of the responsible seems to have it's draw backs.

Had she lied in order to receive welfare, that is most certainly a criminal offense. She should have been fined and sentenced. Why has she not been charged with a crime? If you have evidence, you should turn it over to the state. Maybe they would even let you execute her. Me. I have no evidence that she lied to anyone other than her parents.

She funded the IVF treatment with the award she got from being injured on the job. Matthew Lesko looks like he bought a custom made suit with his grant money. She used her grant for school.

I don't know who watches these shows or why. Maybe they're interested in potty training.

No I don't want her to be " executed"( what a silly way to word something ) I want her to be responsible and NOT use her children to dig her way out of the mess she caused. I guess what we both are posting are all moot points to each other.
So we'll just have to agree to disagree about her..

Children should never be used for their parents meal tickets.Parents have a DUTY to have job(s ) in order to support thier children.and NEVER exploited them because they cause such a mess and now can't afford to provide basic needs .
Nothing in the world wrong with applying for help when there's a true need for it ( as in health, sickness, job loss etc ) if they can't do it thats what the programs are set up for.

I wish her children the best as they will need it.

P.S as far as Cali goes, I haven't seen too much that has made sense in that state. You know like offering to pay for MJ's saying goodbye funeral, This same state that just said they are cutting funding in social programs such as food stamps because they can't afford it any longer. I'm sure the people that really need the help will now be shorted the help, but least they not ask a family to pay the debt of POCKET change for thier love one funeral. I bet the avg Joe's family would have liked that offer too.

Sorry sincerely have no desire to watch this show.. Look I honestly feel bad for all her kids, but she make her choices and there are plenty of her people who have the same amount of children and they take care of them , themselves... I had enough of Jon and Kate enough is enough, stop it all and just worry about there 8 children. On a personal note I do love the new reality show the little couple Jen is so cute while so small she choose not to let her statue bother her and when on to become a baby doctor especially for really sick newborns, Which honestly I firmly believe it was her destiny to work with little sick babies. I also believe it makes it so much easier for the children to see a small person then a real tall doctor, I think they feel safer. Also not to mention if she can do and not let her size stop her , total more power to her what a wonderful refreshing true down to earth reality show I can enjoy... Hats off to Jen and Jim... Peace. Catherine

Behave better????? Why spoil all the fun and do something like that?

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If you're not born with the last name of Hilton or Kennedy, there's not much you can do to support a brood that size. There are few opportunities that exist to become uber wealthy.

California did not offer to pay a dime towards Jackson's funeral. No government nor municipality did. Because the crowds were going to be huge, the city of Las Angeles provided security. LA ate the cost. The memorial made plenty of money for the city.

Proposition 13, an amendment to the California Constitution, changed the way that real property is assessed and taxed. It was passed in 1978 and leaves Ca. chronically short of revenue. From the start it's been a bad idea but requires the vote of a supermajority to overturn.

Things make more sense when you look at the actual facts.