they will be grandparents and parents at the same time..do not know what number kid this is though.

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#19. Their baby will be 5 mo younger than their first granddaughter. I'm so happy for them.

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I used to have a problem with them having all those kids. But they really seems well adjusted and loved. And they raise that big family with no debt!

I say, more power to them.

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Congrats to the Duggars. Bet its twins again. Get those J names ready.

Somebody ought to tell those two what's causing all those babies!!!

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I've come to the realization that what the Duggars do, or don't do doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. They are who they are, do what they do, and the rest of us are who we are and do what we do.

While I cannot fathom parenting 19 kids--more power to those who can.
I certainly cannot fathom procreating w/ Jim Bob Duggar because he doesn't appeal to me--but again, that's me. She apparently can (and does!!).
I just wish the media didn't latch on to people and continually have them on TV or in magazines. This holds true to the Duggars as well as any other celebrity "figures" like Jon and Kate, or Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton, etc.

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I Honestly thought that once Michelle and JimBob started becoming grandparents they would stop having children and concentrate on the grandbabies I guess I was wrong. I honestly do not know what to say and am amazed that she Michelle is able to give birth so many times with little problems. When she did give birth via c-section this past December I kinda got the feeling from her words that because she was getting older that this was perhaps her last pregnancy, I guess I was wrong, all I can say I give her credit, I could never imagine and would want my body back . Again God must have blessed her to be able to do what she does but my question is if a women can continue to have their periods and produce eggs, she could continue for many more years , oh well again life is all about choices . Peace. Catherine

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Yikes! oh well, more power to 'em...just glad it's not me!

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Woo Hoo!! They are going to run out of J names pretty soon!

They all come so fast. This one should be named "Jiffy!" or maybe "Jeepers!"
or "Jathinkthisisthelastone?"

Why is it sick? Just because it is more common these days to not have some many children does not make it sick. They are not having kids and living off the government like some people do. They are not having kids and losing them because they can not take care of them. What's it to anyone how many kids anyone has? If they want to have 19+ kids, more power to them. My grandparents had 8 children and I love it! Always cousins to play with. If I could, I'd have more.

hey I think Jujubee is a nice name, and no one else in the Duggar family is using it yet!

I thought it was the Duggars?

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They should go for it. Juicyfruit would be better one.

There are already too many people in the world taxing our natural resources. If they want to have a zillion kids, they should adopt some. Either that or move to a small island and populate it single-handedly. Eventually they'd all inbreed and die off.

On second thought, if they did some things single-handedly, they wouldn't be in the mess they are in.

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Well, I am glad it's not me, I couldn't imagine having that many kids! However, I love this show and it's one of the few tv shows I watch, along with Criminal Minds, Brothers & Sisters and a couple of others. If they want to have that many kids and they can support them without public assistance, and they do, then more power to them. I find the show quite interesting!

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I don't like/watch the show, BUT I do not care how many children they have. It is not my business nor my right to say how many they "should" have or where they "should" get them from. If I could afford it, I would have as many as possible.

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I agree.. my great grandparents had 11 children with no help. They lived on a farm and grew their own veggies and had chickens for eggs and cows for milk. My grandparents on my moms side had 7 daughters. I think of the Duggars as old fashioned people.

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I'm not suggesting we should legislate how many kids a family can have. BUT I do care about overpopulation. I think it is a shame that behavior like this gets glamorized by a tv show.

I agree with Groucho Marx in this exchange with a contestant on You Bet Your Life:

Groucho: Why do you have so many children? That's a big burden and a big responsibility.

Mrs. Story: Well, because I love my children and I think that's our purpose here on Earth, and I love my husband.

Groucho: I love my cigar, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while.


Actually, according to snopes this never happened, but if Groucho were alive today, I'd ask him to say it to the Duggars.

I think of the Duggars as idiots.

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I want to know just exactly how they are "affording" to have that many kids.

I've heard/read a lot of different things including they had their house declared a church so they don't have to pay taxes, among other things. IF and that's a darn big IF, they are supporting their brood without ANY assistance and I include WIC, health insurance for kids that is provided by the state such as CHIP, foodstamps, handouts from charities, etc., then I have no real problem with it. As long as EVERYTHING is paid for by money they EARN either from jobs, the tv show, endorsements, etc. then there is really nothing wrong with it.

If they are taking assistance/handouts then they are so very much in the wrong. There is no earthy reason to have a family that big, you have a family that big because you want it, period. Other people shouldn't have to pay for your wants.

Personally, I think the whole idea of having 19 kids is disgusting and that the kids are getting the short end of the stick. There is no way one mother can provide adequate attention to that many kids. Seems to me it would be like beign rasied in an institution because the kid to adult ratio is so out of whack.

Maybe they should name this kid "Justgetoffmealready".

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Judge not lest you be judged! I love big families that are good and caring ones, like the Duggars.

I think if they want to have these children, it's their right to do so. As far as I've read, they don't receive any type of assistance. They take care of themselves and others, from one of the episodes I watched recently. (When they and another family went to design and build on to a house of a large family).

Since when is it anyone's business to tell someone how many kids they can have, especially if they take no money from taxpayers? If it bothers you so much, how about going into the projects and telling these woman that have all these kids by different daddies to keep their legs together... after all, we the taxpayers are paying for those babies.

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Again I am not here to judge because I do firmly believe live and let live as long as no one is being hurt or abused especially children. If you turn on your computer Michelle Duggar is at the top and there a story on her. In the story they ask her some questions, she was discussing that she is suffering from morning sickness and being very tired and trying rest . Again her business but seriously it went on further to ask about the homeschooling to which she replied that her 16 year daughter is the teacher .Here are my 2 personal beliefs its not right , does JimBob worry about his wifes health I mean she will 43 and she already admits they will continue to accept and receive more children. Dear God I love my husband to death but honestly if some here say let them have as many as they want for they afford it all themselves then how many is more and when will it end.The other issue is that the 16 year daughter has to be the teacher again which brings it back to that she Michelle could never ever ever be able to raise those almost 19 kids by herself and for me sorry but perhaps the 16 year old wants to do what a 16 does, perhaps I am wrong, I do agree with some of their ideas, the commitments, the love they do seem to have for each other but again I just plain do not agree because where will it end... Peace. CAtherine

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Really? Do you know them personally? Then how can you say the kids are not getting adequate attention? I'm sure that you give your children your attention ALL the time right? So if you have more than one, how are they getting adequate attention? You've heard things and I'm sure you believe everything you hear right?

As for giving them all attention, they are not all babies. I am like a mother to my students all day and with 22 or 23, I am able to give them all what they need. Now, this week, I have had 28 in my class and that is a bit rough. They are all 5 years old. I still see no problem with large families. My kids are grown and only one is still at home and I would love to have little ones running around again. Lots of them!

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Groovygirl you mentioned 28 students and that I perhaps can understand a bit because I normally work with 16-18 kids at the most with my teacher and we only do this for 4 hours since we only have half day kindergarten. I am sorry and I am not being mean or anything however it is not the same as being a teacher when your a mom your a mom 24/7 no matter what and while she Michelle does have some older kids all are home and her eldest is 20 years old.On the other hand she has so many little ones running around so therefore again there is no way without the help of her elder children could she Michelle be there on any level for 19 children. For instance if you read the article she answers the question that she is tired and has morning sickness and has her 16 year old daughter doing the teaching, how could she do this for not having her older children help. Finally I am all for children helping and doing chores all my 3 children from when they were small learned to keep their rooms clean. They make their own beds, dust their furniture, put away their laundry, mow the lawn, help with the animals and so forth. However I was always the mom and never would ever dream of my children having to raise their siblings, sorry but I guess we have to agree to disagree, they are only children once .Peace. Catherine

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EXACTLY!!! It's ridiculous to say that the parents are raising 18 -- soon to be 19 -- kids.

The older children are raising their younger siblings. Plain and simple. And totally wrong.

There isn't a parent in the world who could give 18 kids the individual attention any child deserves.

I think the Duggars are beyond selfish. They want to have a gazillion kids but they don't have to raise them all.

Omg KellyJef we agree on something, what you just wrote is exactly what I am trying to say, there is no way one mom who do the everyday normal routine of being a mom, cooking breakfest, getting them up, getting them washed and dressed, teach them their lessons, check their homework, cook, clean, laundry, naptimes, making sure they are all safe, on and on no way no how, without the help of her elder children. I guess for me sadly who sometimes wishes I could be a kid again, because sadly your only a child once and once you become an adult, its over and you get married and have children the carefree days are over, again it is their business, but sorry where will it end and does anyone here realize if any of her children did any outside activity which to my knowledge they do not.How could one mom be there for all the practices and games and all those activities and driving. Everything they do is in the house, which is not a bad thing per say, but not one boy ever wanted to play on a baseball team or play football. Not one girl wanted to be in girlscouts or dancing or art. On that part I find extremely sad. I am not saying that in todays standards some children are involved over their heads and do participate too much, however not one kid not one team never ever???. Again that is sad and again no outside activties. Let them be children for they will be children only once. I guess this story gets to me because I relate it back to my childhood and my childrens childhood memories... Peace. Catherine

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Ah, but I spend much more waking time with my students than their parents do. I had friends from very large families growing up and I always wanted to have a large one myself. They never saw it as having to raise their siblings, but just as being a part of a large family and all all helping each other out. None of them now feel that they missed anything. Either way, it's still not my business.

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You're comparing students to kids???

Gee, I don't think you have to cook for your students -- or wash their clothes -- or take them to doctor's/dentist's appointments -- or bathe them -- or change their diapers -- or care for them when they're sick -- . Etc. etc. etc.

Most mothers -- at times -- feel totally overwhelmed with the responsibility of raising their children. And Duggar is putting that same kind of responsibility on her older kids! Absolutely, totally selfish

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YIKES when my kids were small and all sick at the same time, and only having three it was soooo hard especially when they all had the stomach virus at the same time I thought the days and nights would never end and when they were sick all they wanted was mom and dad not each other so I cannot imagine. . Even still now as recently as this past June we were not having hot weather here yet and my ds Tommy 21 years old decided to go swimming in the water in our summer home in Connecticut while my dd's decided to wear their wetsuits he did not. So long story short he was freezing in the water and 2 days later got one of the worst colds, very high fever, chills, aches, very sick dizzy throwing up .I went with him to the doctor and he was put on the 5 day zpac, but he was very sick. I stood home from work for 3 days to care for him and all he wanted was his mom. So I guess my point is even at 21 years old they still need their moms and dads. Also I cannot imagine when the Duggar kids are sick, they have to make each other sick and who one mom can do all that. Sorry to go off topic but any of us here who are moms and have more then 2 children know how hard it is to care for multiple sick children... Peace. Catherine

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They already have 9 times the number of kids I have. When I think of it like that it really seems CRAZY (to me anyway). I really do not know how her uterus is still in tact and not falling out by now. After 2 kids mine had dropped significantly. I also don't know how they justify letting the older kids take care of the younger ones. I know my 21 year old niece resents having to (practically raise) her siblings. One of those things where my Sis has 5 kids with oldest being 21 and youngest is 4. I don't have a problem with the Duggars, in fact I sometimes catch an episode. I just wonder if any of the kids will grow up desiring more outside influences.

Actually she (teacher) has a point. Kids these days with working parents don't spend that much time with their parents. And if you add in any type of after school sports or lessons, etc... that's even less time. And that's assuming every second the parents aren't working they are with their kids. Then there is dinner, laundry, etc... when they are home. As I've stated many times I'm best friends with a family of 9 that home school. I've never seen such a tighter bond between siblings. They are all happy, well adjusted wonderful kids. They do not feel at all burdened if they need to help out. They love each other and want to help each other. I'm sure not all big families are like this but the Duggars seem pretty happy, etc... They certainly get tons of love from their parents and their siblings. Don't underestimate the value of sibling love. They will have their siblings in their lives longer than their parents (death of parents usually come before death of siblings) so those bonds need to be strong.

My goodness, how in the world did my (and probably your) grandparents do it?? My father and my in-laws each had 12 to 15 siblings. How did they do it? There weren't modern conveniences back then like it is now. They had to do chores before school (if they went to school) and chores when they returned. They didn't have school lunches. They brought lunches from home. I don't understand the reasoning that the Duggars are wrong to be having so many children. Just because it's not the 'norm' now doesn't make it wrong.

Mrs. Duggar is probably a much better mother than a LOT of parents nowadays. We have so many latchkey children and their parents are so busy with work and making money. Children stay home alone, eat alone, siblings help with dinner, housework, etc. And then some of you have the nerve to condemn the Duggars??

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Good post mom2twins!

The Duggars are not on any assistance. None. They own several commercial properties that they rent out. They've also sold real estate, some commercial properties, had a party store, used car lot, etc. I think they are a really nice family and I get so sick of everyone picking on them.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. You said it all, and the majority of the group needs to sit back and do some soul searching.

It seems many here want to be the one to cast the first stone. When in fact if they would sweep their own doorstep they wouldn't have time to be sweeping everyone else's.

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They can have 40 kids if they want. Esp. if they keep paying for them all by themselves. I dont even care if they get money for doing the tv show and product placements. They seem like a well adjusted, wholesome family.

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The simple fact that they're reaping the benefits of being on a TV show and putting themselves out there gives any of us the right to "pick on them" and state our opinions of their lifestyle. The little ones are assigned a buddy of one of the older kids, and that's who's looking after that child. To say that the parents are doing all the child-rearing is nuts. If you have the resources to raise all of these children, why not give Mama Duggar a break and adopt a few needy kids?

The kids seem Stepford-like to me. I highly doubt they get a "real" education with the type of homeschooling they're getting. I think they're being raised to live on the family compound--girls marry young and start reproducing just like Mama and boys work in the family business somehow.

It all seems crazy to me, and I can't wait to see if any of the kids rebel against it someday.

Why do you question their education? They all seem to be smart, well rounded kids who think of others before themselves. (Well that one older boy does seem a bit strange, can't figure out why).

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I do cook for them sometimes, I do have to care for them when sick, because parents send them to school sick a lot. I change a lot of clothes. I raised 3 kids and I work much harder with the ones at school, as there are 28 of them...not 3. It is not my business what this family does, which was my point.

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Good thing you are not the one with all these kids then. It won't affect your life.

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Well said! I am glad you could comprehend what I was saying.

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Wow, I had no idea that it was wrong to have an opinion.

I stand by my opinions, but everyone needs to remember that they are opinions. I(and everyone else)have lots of opinions on lots of different thngs and that is fine.

I really don't think that the Duggars give a rats rump about my opinion.

And I bet I'm not the only one with that opinion.

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I don't know what your definition of "marry young" is, however, the oldest girls are 19, 18, 16 and 15 and none of them are married yet. The oldest boy, Josh, is married and living in his own house and has a preowned car business. The next oldest boy, John-David is 19 and the last I heard was wanting to start a tow truck business. The boy and girl that are 19 will be 20 in January.
As far as I can see, the children aren't being raised to live on the family compound, the girls aren't marrying young to have babies and the boys are starting their own business.

I think a lot of people who don't like the Duggars is because they are a Christian, God-loving family, plain and simple!

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Mom2twins2 I have to seriously disagree with you about not liking then because they are christian and plain and simple. I am sorry but again I feel sorry for thos children , again without the help of her older children she Michelle and her wonderful husband Jimbob would not be able to have all those children and care for them and its plain not right, again your only a child once and you should be able to be carefree and enjoy those carefree days to be a child . For when the day comes and you become an adult and get married and start your own family you will never get back those days. Michelle is the mom she is one who should be taking care of her children and raising them , not her children taking care of their siblings. Again I am not saying, that children should not have chores and responsibities I am all for that and have raised by children to do that. However when her children get sick, there is no way you can tell me you can tend to say 8 sick or more children at one time again I had 3 sick at one time and it was so hard . I have always said we live in too fast paced of a world, with all the technology, however I watched the show the other nite, where they the Duggars where going to a baseball game. In the show someone asked JimBob why the children do not participate in outdoor sports and he replied they do not have the time and with all the children they have they would not be able to fit in all the practices and games and to me thats a shame. I guess in the end again we will have to agree to disagree which is not a bad thing just a different choice or view. Peace. Catherine

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See, that's presuming a lot about people you don't know.

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LIke the song goes from Rod Stewart "forever young" oh how many of us wish sometimes it was true this song was played at the end of my younger daughter Cailtins 8th graduation video and it brings tears to my eyes each and every time and I only wish I could freeze time and keep her young as well as my other 2 children. While I know we all must grow up and become adults, like I said before those carefree childhood memories only come once only once... Peace . Catherine

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For the sake of "stealing" some of the limelight away from the son and daughter in law expecting their first I wish the parents would have made the choice to use moderate self control for the sake of timing.

That being said, every child is a blessing and I don't care if they have 40 of them.
There's plenty of love to go around.


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