To both sides:

Would you feel differently about the Presidential Speech to our children if it were John McCain in the White House???

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Nope--I'd have the same concerns whether it was McCain or ClintonorWilly Wonka!

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Undecided. It isn't about who is giving the speech, but the message it contains.

I agree wtih dlard. I don't care who gives it, i just want to know what it is about. I am worried because it was so hush hush. If it wasnt' a big deal, then why did they not want to release to parents first?

Nope. The office itself carries a bit of gravitas.

NOPE. Peace. Catherine

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I don't know who told you it was "hush, hush" but they lied. He told us what it was about weeks ago. The fact that a crackpot out of Florida chose to characterize it as an indoctrination into communism or whatever shouldn't surprise you.

It's not that they didn't want to release it to parents ahead of time, no President has ever done so before. The White House did not anticipate that ridiculous allegations would be made against this speech. I still think that asking kids for input into the problem of high school dropouts is a good idea.

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain

I'm tired of the blatant lies and the lack of critical thinking from those who lap them up.

Well here, no schools around us sent any letters home about it. In fact, hardly any parents even know about it (or did so before Friday). So if it isn't a big deal, then why did they change his question "what can you do for me" into "what can I do for you"?

I didn't hear anything about it until Thursday myself. Also, nothing came home from any of my kids' schools about it. Not even a phone call.

Please, do tell where you heard about it "weeks ago"?

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My granddaughter brought home a paper Friday telling the school would be watching it.
I would probably have some concern about it if she was older but I highly dought she will be paying much attention to it or really gather much meaning from it.
Now, if she were older I would be there to watch right along with her and if the school had a problem with THAT, be assured she would be coming right home with me.

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Why on Earth does the school even need to notify anyone that the President is going to make a speech? It's common; why hold this President to different standards?

I heard about the letter that the twit from Florida sent out 2 weeks ago. Sorry you're out of the loop.

Like I said in the other post ---- this president is not a trustworthy person and people do not trust him, therefore they do not have confidence in even what he states he is going to say to the schoolchildren.

If it were McCain, I would have no problem with it.

Oh, and what person in Florida is being referred to???

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Indeed, why should ANY parent care what their child is being exposed to at school??? Clearly that is how you parent?? No surprise there. Lots of things are "common" but that doesn't mean I don't want to know about it.

How about instead of immature insults and name-calling you try to use a person's name??? Which twit are you referring to?? I have heard a lot of talk about Jim Greer, Chairman of the Florida Republican Party, and his disdain for the speech. A twit?? I don't personally know the man, but, would not call him a twit, for the sheer fact that I'm a mature adult who can express my feelings in a manner a bit less becoming of a second grader. So, please, for clarification, can you tell us who it was that sent said letter?? This is all I could find on it myself:

"On Thursday, Jim Greer, chairman of the Florida Republican Party, accused the president of attempting to "indoctrinate America's children to his socialist agenda."
source: Calls to boycott Obama's speech to kids offer a disturbing lesson in paranoia -- latimes.com

Out of the loop??? Which loop......fruit loops??? Yes, plum out of fruit loops, you got me there. Perhaps I can borrow some from you? You are clearly well stocked

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I'm sure KVMJ will back peddle or resort to more name calling, as she clearly is misinformed. However, I'll give her the opportunity to respond.....this should be good.


Florida GOP Chair on Obama's Speech to Students: "It's a Good Speech, I'll Let My Kids Watch" - The Note
"Despite his conciliatory tone today, Greer says he has no regrets for issuing a statement last Tuesday, in which he said he was “absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology.” The statement also accused the president of “bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.”

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Jim Greer -- that would be the guy would criticized the president for speaking to children after Greer himself turned a school into a campaign stop, right?

Typical hypocrisy from the GOP.

I think if you didn't know about the speech before Friday, you're just not someone who pays any attention to the news. It's been WELL publicized, and well before then.

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Kinda like Bush........eh? YMMV

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Do you realize that if we go the next three days without a terrorist attack on our soil, that Obama will have kept the country safer than George W. Bush did? By this time in his presidency, we now know that Bush had already chosen to stay on vacation rather than deal with a known imminent terrorist threat.

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It really boils down to this... you either like Obama or you don't. You either believe he is evil and only cares about himself or you don't. You either like former President Bush or you don't. I personally have no respect for the current president or his policies. It is a hot issue on the boards as well between friends in every day life. People are very divided in this country. I will remind everyone that this country was built on a Christian foundation and it is something that is being destroyed bit by bit. So to answer the original question, McCain could give a speech to my kids all day long and I would cheer him on. I don't want Obama anywhere near me or my family EVER!!!!! I won't debate the issue. It is my feeling and I have facts to back up my feelings as I am sure those that feel the other way have facts to back up the way they feel. I won't be afraid to voice my feelings though.

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I read about the faux controversy 2 weeks ago. You didn't. I a not in the habit of calling people names nor do I see anything to backtrack from.

For the record, I do not trust McCain, but would certainly not demand an advance copy of any speech that he gave to schoolchildren nor keep my child out of school. Then again, I like to deal with facts as opposed to abject lies. I do not live with the type of fear that you people do.

Again, you do not answer the question with facts because you do not have them to support this. You LIED. Repeat after me.... L - I - E -D.......LIED. Just like when you said "I a not in the habit of calling people names ". Yes, you use the terms "crackpot" "twit" and "drunk" to describe people, all within a matter of a few days.

Yes, you are clearly dealing with facts, according to your definition obviously

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I hope my kids school does show my kids the speech. But then again I'm not worried about someone trying to "brainwash" my kids. That was actually said here on our local newspaper website. I have no problem with ANY president speaking to the kids. This is all just a bunch of uptight people getting their panties in a wad over something that's not a big deal. Geez!!

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Nope, it wouldn't matter to me. If anyone political wants to "speak" to my kids I want to know what it's about and preview it first.

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It's on FB right now but I can't watch it cause my husband works graveyard this month I can't turn on speakers. I will watch it though when he leaves this afternoon.


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LOL! Nope, wouldn't be worried about McCain at all because he'd probably put at least half of the students to sleep before he was too far into his speech. God bless him.. he's just not that captivating.

God Love McCain! He is a bit boring.

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I don't trust McCain, only because I think he acted like an idiot picking Sarah Palin for VP. He was either pandering or stupid and I don't trust either behavior. I'd still let my kids listen to him. And then, if necessary, I could explain why they shouldn't believe him.

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Unless someone ticks him off and then he has quite the nasty temper.

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HA! Like Obama picked such a smart one with Biden! LOL! Wow, how many times now have they had to backtrack on what Biden has said? Lost count! Guess we can say he acted like an idiot by picking Biden! Guess that's ONE reason not to trust him!

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Back to the original question...

No, I wouldn't be concerned if John McCain were delivering the speech just as I'm not concerned about Obama giving the speech.

I asked my son what the president told him (they watched at school) and he said, "I don't know."

What did make a big impact on him though was that the news ticker at the bottom of the screen at some point had the word "rape".

So, was he paying attention to Obama, nope! but the speech may stick with him forever because of the unedited network news scrolling across at the bottom.

I have not lied. Unlike others, I have never called a member of this forum a name.

Calling someone like Orly Taitz, Betsey McCaughney or Glenn Beck crackpots and twits isn't lying. Bush was a drunk. They refer to themselves as recovering alcoholics. Yes, these are facts.

I picked up my neighbor's little boy from school today (Wednesday) and I started helping him with his homework. I noticed a note in his assignments that said "We will not be watching President Obama's speech on Tuesday." I asked him about it and why they didn't watch it. His reply "Surely the President knows we have to eat lunch." He said that's what the teacher told him.

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Now THAT is funny!!!

I don't mean this snarky, but so what? The Constitution is a living document. That's why we have amendments and the Supreme Court to interpret the laws. If everything were set in stone we wouldn't need either.

Do you know the the majority of the founding fathers were Episcopalian? Do you mean we should we all become Episcopalian and base US laws on Episcopalian practices?

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I am just so tired of all this fighting back and forth. I honestly wish that one repubulican could honestly admit that that going to war was wrong wrong, we have lost so many innocent lives here and aboard. Does anyone realize we had no business entering into a country, that once we retrive, we eventually go back to the way it was with S.H. in power it will be a total mess for those people who live there. I am not saying that S. H. needed to ne stopped and killed but at what cost and more then that, he did not cause 9.11. More then that ladies while I am proud to be a democrat and proud to be a liberal and was happy that Obama was elected I can admit that I am not happy with everything he has done so far, especially with the war and the fact that he is planning and sending more troops over there, but on the other hand, he also was left with a huge mess in his lap and honestly whether it had been, McCain or Obama we would still be in the mess we are facts are facts. More important to me at this point I feel less and less I can truly trust anyone and that is a total shame for I love this country and the freedom . I just truly wish all this fighting would stop here . Peace please. Catherine

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