what is your opinion on our school banquet ?

cubmom2 · #1 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 07:51 AM

I will try and make this very concise , because it can get long and complicated.

Basically it is this. I have a sr. in high school, a member of a school sport. Every year for the past 3 years, we have had a Christmas banquet..potluck. We've held it at the community college in town's dining hall. Parents bring a dish they've prepared..or simply buy fried chicken, potato salad, etc at the very near by delis . The boosters club buys a large meat such as turkey or ham, and a very big cake that is part of a cake cutting ceremony. It has been very well attended..Everyone seems to have a good time. I was a member of the booster's board so I had heard feedback on how much it was enjoyed.

This year, I stepped down as a officer of the club..so I had assumed they ( the other board directors ) would follow tradition and have the annual banquet.

Also, forgot to add, we have each student bring in for donation to the local Salvation Army, a toilet article such as toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo, etc. These items can usually be found for a dollar..and I know the local grocery store ( we only have 2 in our town ) has $1 Right Guards in a barrell at check out.

So, yesterday I contacted one of the board members and asked about the banquet. She informs me they will not be doing it this year, instead they will rent out the local pizza parlor ( rip-off of a chuck e cheese ) and let each student in free for a meal and 5 tokens. GUESTS will have to pay $4..we are talking the moms, dads, grandparents, aunts, etc.

Now, I find it tacky to CHARGE for this party..We earn money by concession stands and fundraisers..I do not see why we have to PAY to attend this party..yes, it is only $4..but I mean, $4 can be a lot for poor kids in this rural town when it's $4 a head ( x gpa.gma, aunt, uncle, cousins, siblings, etc ) Like I said, this is usually a very big event to close off the holiday season and everyone attends. It is also a time for fellowship, sit down meal with table cloths, napkins, etc.

The CEC rip off restaurant also has several of the kids as workers during the week...how fun will it be for them to go to their place of employment for a party ? It is not like it's a huge treat either because this is a small , rural town and everyone goes to this restaurant during the week.

I emailed the officer and said I found it tacky...I did not agree with this at all. I would also gladly have arranged all the set ups, scheduling, etc..I have done it the past 3 years..no trouble at all.

there is more but I will wait for replies.

cubmom2 · #2 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 07:53 AM

Oh , shoot, forgot to add, I also brought up the donations, which another parent had asked me if we were going to do it again this year. She was the one who brought the donation box to S.A & they just gushed and gushed how much they appreciated it. The officer I spoke to yesterday for the school event said she would get in touch with the teacher about it..who is KNOWN for being a scatterbrain and NEVER following thru with anything..so I can honestly count the donation box as a lost cause.

ExtremeCommotion · #3 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:02 AM

Seems like they took a wholesome, family oriented celebration and turned it into a cheesy event. The normal banquet was much more work but way more class and family oriented. I think children need something a cut above a casual get together for personal growth as well. It was awesome of you to have handled all the details for 3 years.

jujubee2 · #4 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:26 AM

If you wanted to have a say in how things were done, you shouldn't have stepped down. But since you have, I think you need to butt out.

cubmom2 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:29 AM

Yes, extreme, my thoughts exactly. When I spoke to the officer, she said it was a chance for the kids to "let loose"... These kids ( high schoolers ) have done nothing all year BUT have been LET LOOSE. They have lost many competitions because they are cutting practice, fooling around and grab assing during practices. Now is their chance to LET LOOSE? . Moreover, the "let loose" aspect of our year is the *annual unless they change this too * end of the year swim party at the community pool.

The Christmas party is a chance to sit down, fellowship, dress up nicely in shirts and trousers, nice dresses, etc show their moms and dads their classmates, etc.

cubmom2 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jujubee2

If you wanted to have a say in how things were done, you shouldn't have stepped down. But since you have, I think you need to butt out.

I stepped down because of personal reasons and quite frankly, anyone , any parent has a SAY in what we plan for the kids.. It is a booster's event..not just "officers pick something". I still have every right to voice my opinion on what we should do, could do, will have fun doing, etc. Also, I am extremely active in my children's school events..so I am not "one of those moms " who pop off and do not show up to help. I have helped earn the money for these events, gone to every car wash, every concession stand, every concert, etc.

jujubee2 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

I stepped down because of personal reasons and quite frankly, anyone , any parent has a SAY in what we plan for the kids.. It is a booster's event..not just "officers pick something". I still have every right to voice my opinion on what we should do, could do, will have fun doing, etc. Also, I am extremely active in my children's school events..so I am not "one of those moms " who pop off and do not show up to help. I have helped earn the money for these events, gone to every car wash, every concession stand, every concert, etc.

I didn't mean to imply you had a bad reason for stepping down. It just seems like you think your way was the right way and you won't be happy unless they invest as much time and effort as you did. While you can voice your opinion, I don't think you can expect them to do whatever you want them to do.

cubmom2 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:42 AM

More details to add.
Our boosters club has meetings the first Tuesday of the month. This is where ALL the parents attend, give feedback, talk about upcoming events..VOTE & PLAN. This last meeting, Dec.'s..the secretary of the boosters said this year's Christmas event will be " A Surprise"..no chance to vote, no chance to talk about it. She had told me during football season they were going to rent out the movie theater and have pizza delivered if they did well in the state finals..which, btw, the kids did not even attend because of so many missed practices and lack of commitment.

I personally, as a mother to a student there..feel it is unfair not to be treated as an adult , given a chance to vote on what we thought of the plan..given a chance to even volunteer and help set up for the banquet if we so chose to. Like I said, I know for a fact I could have a handful of helpers gladly volunteer to pull that off.. It was no trouble at all.

cubmom2 · #9 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jujubee2

I didn't mean to imply you had a bad reason for stepping down. It just seems like you think your way was the right way and you won't be happy unless they invest as much time and effort as you did. While you can voice your opinion, I don't think you can expect them to do whatever you want them to do.

No, not at all. I do not EXPECT them to do what I want to do. You're missing the point. I stated that it has been TRADITION for this ANNUAL Christmas event..which MANY parents and for that matter, former students as well..home from college during break, attend this event. It has always gone off very well...the college already has a clean, well lit dining hall with full kitchen..tables already set up..janitor to help clean afterwards..all we needed to do was reserve the hall, bring dollar tree table cloths which a friend of mine buys with her own money..we also bring voltive candles and a few ornaments, etc.

My point also, if you missed it..was ok..although I do not agree with a CEC rip-off as our traditional holiday evening..if you choose to have it..why charge $4 for guests to attend ? This can easily add up to a good $30 when kids invite the entire family . That is hard for this time of year with gift buying and tipping, etc..then to have to pay to attend a party which we as the parents helped raise money for ?

Icansavedaily · #10 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 09:24 AM

Booster opinion 1
your opinion 0
Thats the score and you can live with it or not. Maybe people chose not to dress up as you would like and let their hair down and have a casual night out with thier families, without buying fancy clothes and trying to outdo each other. To call these young people ass grabbing slackers is uncalled for.
You have the right to stay away. Perhaps your way would be the best but it is their choice and they have made it.
Maybe they want to try something other than potluck from houses where there are colds, flu's and animal hair and 10 of the same dish provided.
Having 6 posts on this site will not change their minds. It's time to let them handle their affair and butt out. JMHO

ishop2much · #11 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeCommotion

Seems like they took a wholesome, family oriented celebration and turned it into a cheesy event. .

I agree. I also would be asking why they would pick a place like CEC since they are high school students. I have 2 kids in high school, and when their little sister picks it for where she wants to go for dinner they complain

couponconnie · #12 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 10:32 AM

I see your point - maybe lots of people complained about the dinner last year and they want to try something different this year.
Many people do not like to eat pot lucks - they wonder about how clean the home is that the food came out of -- how clean is the cooks methods?
Maybe they let the kids vote on it--
I'd say give it a try - if it is a flop - they will go back to the old method

cubmom2 · #13 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 10:49 AM

I am having a dialog..not trying to convince you. I have "6 posts" just to further explain exactly what is going on. Maybe because this is a very small town..and believe me, everyone knows everyone else..so I can say with most certainty that Most of the men bring chips or deli salads..which I know for a fact is $1.74 a lb. So they either pick it up at the 2 very close by stores and absolutely no fuss, no muss. Several woman will bake a ham or turkey which they usually get free from their husband's work or several food pantry give aways..which they are more than happy to free up room in the freezer and donate. One woman brings home made simmer country green beans with bacon that people LINE UP for..she also brings home made simmered pinto beans. I think I make chili or whatever in a very clean kitchen.

Point is, no one really pays more than $4 to bring in the meal...and when I say people come up for 2nd and 3rds and comment over and over how good the food is, etc. This is a country culture of pot lucks at church, etc.

As far as dressing up...the kids have to wear white shirts and khakis...which WE BOUGHT for them with the money we raised one year. The woman certainly do not wear evening gowns, a simple sweater or cotton dress is more than fine..the men usually a sweater or slacks..it is not a formal dinner for gosh sakes..the fact that it is a time for us to get together and mingle, talk with the kids...have fellowship..which is going to be hard to do at a CEC with computer sounds and kids running around.

Yes, I am sorry, but a good majority of the kids have majorally slacked off and NOT participated this year..in their own words they have played around too much, not taken it seriously enough...

3togetready · #14 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by couponconnie

I see your point - maybe lots of people complained about the dinner last year and they want to try something different this year.
Many people do not like to eat pot lucks - they wonder about how clean the home is that the food came out of -- how clean is the cooks methods?
Maybe they let the kids vote on it--
I'd say give it a try - if it is a flop - they will go back to the old method

I agree, if there is a low turn out either because of the cost per person or where it is being held then maybe next year they will go back to the pot luck. I'm sorry that this will not be the event you were looking forward to, but I hope you can still have a nice time.

suezz · #15 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Nothing happening here is going to change the dinner back to the old way. We are hearing just from you..and you know the saying "two sides and the truth is somewhere in the middle".

The fact remains that some people (and it appears to be those with the authority to do so) changed the old way. They must have had a reason for doing so.

targetgirl · #16 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 05:01 PM

This is my question: If the kids have been such slackers this year, why have a banquet at all?

I was never into the sport thing in school, but I thought the point of the banquet was to recognize those that did a good job/put forth a supreme effort/etc. You actually had to put in the effort, regardless of the win/loss total, to be recognized at the banquet.

I agree with the others who said that maybe having it this way this year will result in a low turn out and next year it will go back to the old way. If the kids really were slackers this year, maybe a crappy banquet at a knock off CEC is what they have earned/deserve.

allinaugust · #17 (**permalink**) 12-10-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

This year, I stepped down as a officer of the club..so I had assumed they ( the other board directors ) would follow tradition and have the annual banquet.

You know what they say about "ass"uming!!

I think since you stepped down from the board you have minimal say in what goes on. I have been involved with many events like this, and honestly, I find it tacky for someone who didn't even help with the event, come in and say "oh, you should do it this way or that way....I'd have been happy to do it....blah, blah, blah" . Well, if you'd have been so dang happy to do it, WHY DIDN'T YOU???

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

Also, forgot to add, we have each student bring in for donation to the local Salvation Army, a toilet article such as toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo, etc. These items can usually be found for a dollar..and I know the local grocery store ( we only have 2 in our town ) has $1 Right Guards in a barrell at check out.

So, yesterday I contacted one of the board members and asked about the banquet. She informs me they will not be doing it this year, instead they will rent out the local pizza parlor ( rip-off of a chuck e cheese ) and let each student in free for a meal and 5 tokens. GUESTS will have to pay $4..we are talking the moms, dads, grandparents, aunts, etc.

Now, I find it tacky to CHARGE for this party..We earn money by concession stands and fundraisers..I do not see why we have to PAY to attend this party..yes, it is only $4..but I mean, $4 can be a lot for poor kids in this rural town when it's $4 a head ( x gpa.gma, aunt, uncle, cousins, siblings, etc ) Like I said, this is usually a very big event to close off the holiday season and everyone attends. It is also a time for fellowship, sit down meal with table cloths, napkins, etc.

I emailed the officer and said I found it tacky...I did not agree with this at all. I would also gladly have arranged all the set ups, scheduling, etc..I have done it the past 3 years..no trouble at all.

there is more but I will wait for replies.

You say that $4 is a lot for the poor kids in your town....well then why even ask them to bring something for the Salvation Army?? Furthermore, just because money is raised thru concessions and other things, I'm sure there are plenty of expenses that need to be paid with that money (travel to games, uniforms, trophies, etc). Honestly, if the kids are so "poor" where you are, then I can just see them bringing every relative they have and then some to this "FREE FOR ALL" Banquet. I see nothing wrong with asking people to pay.

We have a holiday lunch at the school I work at, and we charge $5 per person. The parents that want to come do. For some, maybe it means sacraficing a latte for a day, or Heaven forbid, giving up a pack of cigarettes. But, if it means enough, they will go.

Quite frankly, I find your post rather pompous and insulting. If I were on the board, I'd probably be glad you stepped down..... good riddance.

ILUVLUCY420 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 12:10 AM

To allinaugust can I simply ask a question cubmom1 who has been here a long time and came here for advice or rather our opinion why so harsh with your ending commets towards her???. To op Cubmom I sincerely hope things work out for the school banquet it came become difficult with these type of suituations especially since you stepped down does not mean you cannot have a opinion or concern since inventions have changed . Peace. Catherine

deddlastt · #19 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ILUVLUCY420

To allinaugust can I simply ask a question cubmom1 who has been here a long time and came here for advice or rather our opinion why so harsh with your ending commets towards her???. To op Cubmom I sincerely hope things work out for the school banquet it came become difficult with these type of suituations especially since you stepped down does not mean you cannot have a opinion or concern since inventions have changed . Peace. Catherine

Harsh is your opinion. Several have said much the same thing. She stepped down, for crying out loud.......and that's what it is....crying out loud.

Asking for opinions does not mean that everyone jump on "her" side. That's not what an opinion is, but then again you are a paraprofessional so you should know that, you are helping to educate our children.

dl

wowitsdark · #20 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 06:52 AM

Here's what I think...

When you've been in charge of something, you are emotionally invested in it and that's to be expected. You probably see the good that comes from the thing you did, which is why you bothered to do it in the first place. The way it used to be done probably *was* nicer and *was* a cut above what is going to happen this year.

I am guessing that this banquet isn't to recognize anyone's hard work - that usually happens at the end of the year. But I don't think that just because, for whatever reason, one year's group of students doesn't seem as committed as the group from the previous year that traditions should be thrown out the window. There is a lot to be said for consistency and tradition and not having to reinvent the wheel each year based on the students performance. If there's an annual banquet, there's an annual banquet. Annually.

My guess, OP, is that somebody - or several somebodies - felt like this is too busy a time of year to put on a potluck banquet. People probably enjoyed it a lot once they got there, but trying to get food together, plan other holiday events around it, etc., was a lot of work to add in to an already overly-full schedule. Probably somebody said, "Look, let's just use money we'd budgeted to rent the college dining hall to pay for the kids and let them be free. If others want to come, that's fine, and we can subsidize their tickets a bit, too. Nobody has to make anything, nobody has to clean up, and the kids get to just hang out and visit. They'll probably appreciate that since this falls right before finals. This way kids and families can just come and go and not feel like they need to commit to an entire evening like they do at a seated banquet."

I think the banquet was probably nicer and that there is something to be said for having those types of events. I think generally, we slack TOO much and there are few 'special' things left that kids do besides prom, and that it's nice to see something besides just the jocks be given special notice.

But... if those running the show now sense a different event is in order, that's, unfortunately, how it goes. Generally I think people do the best they can using the best judgment they can. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Only time will tell if this change is a positive one or not.

cubmom2 · #21 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by allinaugust

You know what they say about "ass"uming!!

I think since you stepped down from the board you have minimal say in what goes on. I guess you did not read the part where I mentioned we have a monthly meeting where everyone, even the kids, have a say in planning an event.

I have been involved with many events like this, and honestly, I find it tacky for someone who didn't even help with the event, come in and say "oh, you should do it this way or that way....I'd have been happy to do it....blah, blah, blah" . Well, if you'd have been so dang happy to do it, WHY DIDN'T YOU???

I guess you also did not read where I have on a *daily basis * asked about the dinner ( I pick my son up in my car from school so I see these people every school day ) . This was weeks beforehand..of which they replied.." Oh yeah, yeah...we'll get to that...",,did you not also read how I have been a CONSTANT help all 4 years of these events..not even helping out but also coming in early to start the concession stands ( ice down drinks, order pizzas, wrap the pizzas, lay out the candy, ) and at the end of the night..taking all the wash cloths home and washing them, and all the dirty utensils home to put in my dishwasher. Anyone who knows me, and you do NOT..would find your post laughable.

You say that $4 is a lot for the poor kids in your town....well then why even ask them to bring something for the Salvation Army?? $4 a PERSON for extended family members..would add up to a large chunk of money..these people have gparents, uncles, aunts, etc. all living in the same town. The toilet articles we use because MOST of these can be found for a dollar..as opposed to asking for a toy which would cost at least $10. The kids would also learn to give back to their community to less fortunate. Very small price to pay.

Furthermore, just because money is raised thru concessions and other things, I'm sure there are plenty of expenses that need to be paid with that money (travel to games, uniforms, trophies, etc). Honestly, if the kids are so "poor" where you are, then I can just see them bringing every relative they have and then some to this "FREE FOR ALL" Banquet. I see nothing wrong with asking people to pay.

My son informed me yesterday that MANY of the kids do not like this idea either. They do not want to go to the same pizza place they work at...We are all paid up for our expenses for the football season ..believe you me I personally know the treasurer..the basketball season money is for our holiday parties and our pool party at the end of the year. We bought uniforms last year..of which I helped out with sizing the children and handing them out.

We have a holiday lunch at the school I work at, and we charge $5 per person. The parents that want to come do. For some, maybe it means sacraficing a latte for a day, or Heaven forbid, giving up a pack of cigarettes. But, if it means enough, they will go.

Perhaps you have always had a holiday dinner and it is a TRADITION for you..we have not..which is the point of my post. This has been a tradition.. We found out THIS week they will have it at the pizza place..way to plan a budget for a large family.

Quite frankly, I find your post rather pompous and insulting. If I were on the board, I'd probably be glad you stepped down..... good riddance.

YOu really sound hateful and wretched..sorry your life is so evil.

allinaugust · #22 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

YOu really sound hateful and wretched..sorry your life is so evil.

That really means a lot coming from someone who constantly whines about this situation or that situation....hubby with no job, no bonus, you have no money, yet shopping 24/7.....blah, blah, blah. Now this banquet. I have met more than my share of people like you. All they do is whine. I should have just passed right on by after reading your first post.

You asked an opinion, I gave mine. Consider it my little holiday gift just for you

allinaugust · #23 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVLUCY420

To allinaugust can I simply ask a question cubmom1 who has been here a long time and came here for advice or rather our opinion why so harsh with your ending commets towards her???.

Not that I owe you any explantation for anything, but, the OP asked opinions, I gave mine. I honestly meant what I said my post.... she came off pompous and insulting. Imagine being on the board that is putting together the banquet this year, and you bust your butt to give people something, and you have someone saying basically "well, you should have done it such and such a way". Maybe you'd enjoy that, I don't know.

My comments weren't harsh, just honest.

cubmom2 · #24 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 01:09 PM

My dh doesn't get a bonus ? Who said that ? no one. As far as "working their butt off " to put together this..as usual you are speculating. I just spoke with another officer this morning who told me they "threw this together " at the last minute because one of the officer's kids liked the restaurant. One of the officers is in the hospital so they could not get with him, the other out of town, and the last one is going thru a divorce. You really seem like a bitter old bat.

ILUVLUCY420 · #25 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 01:14 PM

To allinaugust your right you owe me nothing, yet as a member I choose to voice my personal view on your response back to Cubmom which I still feel while she did ask for our opinions on the subject matter, it still was not necessary to leave her your rude and yes harsh response. There is a huge difference between an opinion and being rude. To deddlastt the same some other ladies felt like I did and agreed with cubmom but of course once again what about the 100th time you decide to voice your comments at me. Also deddlastt why bring up my job professional what in the world does it have to do with this topic nothing just another attempt by you to be nasty, in the end op Cubmom I sincerely hope all works out peace. Catherine

allinaugust · #26 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 01:15 PM

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My dh doesn't get a bonus ? Who said that ? no one. As far as "working their butt off " to put together this..as usual you are speculating. I just spoke with another officer this morning who told me they "threw this together " at the last minute because one of the officer's kids liked the restaurant. One of the officers is in the hospital so they could not get with him, the other out of town, and the last one is going thru a divorce. You really seem like a bitter old bat.

Did I miss your other post??

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marilynk · #27 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

My dh doesn't get a bonus ? Who said that ? no one. As far as "working their butt off " to put together this..as usual you are speculating. I just spoke with another officer this morning who told me they "threw this together " at the last minute because one of the officer's kids liked the restaurant. One of the officers is in the hospital so they could not get with him, the other out of town, and the last one is going thru a divorce. You really seem like a bitter old bat.

Frankly, I think you posted here for positive affirmations that you are right, and they are wrong. You want to feel good about yourself and seek to do that here on this board. You didn't get that from everyone, so you are reacting in anger and lashing out--when YOU asked for opinions.

I happen to "know" AIA away from this board. She's not bitter, she's not angry and she isn't old!

She, like myself, has the ability and the spunk to "tell it like it is". You didn't like what she had to say, or how she said. Big deal! Go build a bridge and get over it...

FWIW---I think you're whining because no one consulted you and you think they are all backwood, inbred local yokels! You are so often coming here complaining about one thing or another. You seem to be a very negative person. Now, put on your big girl panties and get a grip. Life goes on. Can't change things now as far as this banquet/event. Why don't you volunteer to coordinate a spring banquet for the athletes or seniors or whomever? Start a new tradition.

cubmom2 · #28 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 03:51 PM

MarilynK...oh, so now I am calling people backwards yokels ? HHhmm..don't know where I ever said that..but ok..

well..*just so happens * that I got to the school early and the students had a photographer taking photos..so we had all the kids lined up to fill out cards and help with hair combing, etc. Of which not only I helped..but one of the back ward yokel officers..who she and I were chatting away about the game next Tuesday..and planning what time to be there and get set up, etc. So much for my thinking my ideas are so much better. I did not /do not agree with the choice..and I did let them know I did not agree..but it never became personal towards them..

Again...I started this thread to see if it was only me who thought it strange to break from a tradition that we've had for many years...especially during the holidays. & why no one thought to bring it up to ANY person in our school community.

cubmom2 · #29 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 03:58 PM

Imagine being on the board that is putting together the banquet this year, and you bust your butt to give people something, and you have someone saying basically "well, you should have done it such and such a way". Maybe you'd enjoy that, I don't know.

I was a member of this board for several years and not only did I and still do "bust my butt" to actually EARN this money..but I have also listened to others say they did not like an idea of ours ( when we decided where to take a trip. I suggested Hershey Park, others wanted Dollywood..we went to Dollywood ) . It is a council seat..not a Lordship position. Your way of reasoning would be if Obama is the President, he can make all the rules without consulting his people. That is not what our group does.

We *usually * decide at a monthly meeting what the upcoming plans are. This month, for whatever reason..they did not. Several moms who KNOW me and KNOW I can give them answers to our group asked if we were having the banquet..of which I asked the leaders..not in a demanding way..just when, what time , etc ?

When the Leaders came back and said we were doing this this way.,..I did think it was tacky..I did ask the one treasurer who I am close to why they decided that..I did not agree..but I never made it a personal thing..("Who's dumb idea is that !?"...

I am still very close to these officials..we are on first name basis...I still *personally * and My Own Opinion still think to charge is a bad move and tacky. again..MY THOUGHTS. If you did not agree..you did not have to attack me personally, which you did.

allinaugust · #30 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

I If you did not agree..you did not have to attack me personally, which you did.

My quote:
"Quite frankly, I find your post rather pompous and insulting. If I were on the board, I'd probably be glad you stepped down..... good riddance."

Your post:
"I feel sorry for you, hateful old bat."

I am not personally attacking you. More like you personally attacking ME. I'm sure you'll never agree to that, nor any other number of things people try to tell you, in a vain attempt to help you.

I know when I'm beating a dead horse.

Happy Holidays.

P.S. and NO, I still was not personally attacking you when I said "dead horse".

cubmom2 · #31 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 04:10 PM

That really means a lot coming from someone who constantly whines about this situation or that situation....hubby with no job, no bonus, you have no money, yet shopping 24/7.....blah, blah, blah.

That is not a personal attack ? & for your information. My dh does have a job, he may get a bonus, I do not know yet..we do have money, and yes, I do shop..jealous much ?

marilynk · #32 (**permalink**) 12-11-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

Imagine being on the board that is putting together the banquet this year, and you bust your butt to give people something, and you have someone saying basically "well, you should have done it such and such a way". Maybe you'd enjoy that, I don't know.

I was a member of this board for several years and not only did I and still do "bust my butt" to actually EARN this money..but I have also listened to others say they did not like an idea of ours ( when we decided where to take a trip. I suggested Hershey Park, others wanted Dollywood..we went to Dollywood ) . It is a council seat..not a Lordship position. Your way of reasoning would be if Obama is the President, he can make all the rules without consulting his people. That is not what our group does.

We *usually * decide at a monthly meeting what the upcoming plans are. This month, for whatever reason..they did not. Several moms who KNOW me and KNOW I can give them answers to our group asked if we were having the banquet..of which I asked the leaders..not in a demanding way..just when, what time , etc ?

When the Leaders came back and said we were doing this this way.,..I did think it was tacky..I did ask the one treasurer who I am close to why they decided that..I did not agree..but I never made it a personal thing..("Who's dumb idea is that !?"...

I am still very close to these officials..we are on first name basis...I still *personally * and My Own Opinion still think to charge is a bad move and tacky. again..MY THOUGHTS. If you did not agree..you did not have to attack me personally, which you did.

And don't you see that you are doing the same thing? Apparently the people that organized it this year wanted to do something different---and you're being hypercritical of it.

As to the yokel comment--lady, you have on more than one ocassion commented about the area you live in and how backwoods it is. It's not a stretch to see that you think you are above a lot of the residents there.

Personal attack? Hey--don't sling mud if you don't want to get dirty.

rose13 · #33 (**permalink**) 12-12-2009, 02:52 AM

IMHO
A few weeks ago people asked why there were so few posters. Also someone recently asked why no one posted on their thread, but read it.
This thread is an example of perhaps why people don't post and don't respond.
It's just so much drama.

cjs216 · #34 (**permalink**) 12-13-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rose13

IMHO
A few weeks ago people asked why there were so few posters. Also someone recently asked why no one posted on their thread, but read it.
This thread is an example of perhaps why people don't post and don't respond.
It's just so much drama.

I don't know if this is true. The drama stuff seems to bring out posters, not keep them away....kwim?

As for the banquet, I say don't sweat the small stuff and go with the flow. If it doesn't turn out to be a fun event and everyone feels that way, they can try something new next year. Pesonally, I don't think $4pp is unreasonable and there's a lot of work saved at this busy time of year. Think positive!

cj/

ddemetrius456 · #35 (**permalink**) 12-13-2009, 11:37 PM

I think it is great. Do enjoy to the fullest
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Kelliiii · #36 (**permalink**) 12-14-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marilynk

I happen to "know" AIA away from this board. She's not bitter, she's not angry and she isn't old!

Marilynk is right about AIA. I am the bitter and angry one. People get us confused sometimes. And while we are clearing the air of hot topics that could get dragged in here before I respond to the post, yes my husband is getting a bonus, yes I think the Dugger's have too many kids, and no I didn't get my holiday shopping done....

With that being said.

Change sucks, but it happens.

Regardless if you were still on the committee or not, you could have offered much earlier to be a part of planning this event if it meant that much to you. You could have said "I can't manage my normal role sitting on the committee for the year, but I would like to be part of planning and executing the dinner" But, you didn't and assumed that it would just go on as it has in the years past. I have to admit, I might have done the same. But, obviously for whatever reasons, things changed.

Your options here on out are to get a big glass a water and swallow the bitter pill of change, pony up your $4, and get your whackamole on....and start planning for next year. Or, your other option is to opt out this year, and start planning on next year if it still means that much to you.

It is hard when you have a personal investment in something that "always has" and you assume "always will be" and someone else comes along and doesn't quite see it your way....

cubmom2 · #37 (**permalink**) 12-14-2009, 03:52 PM

I do not find you bit. AIA sounds like a crazy old bat. I think the Duggars have too many kids too. My dh is getting a bonus..and I thought I was done but went to Rite aid today and bought some more things.

I called the one girl last night and asked if she needed any help icing down sodas..we have a huge game tomorrow..she thanked me and I told her I'd be there to help. I think Kelli you may think you are hard and tough but I do not see you that way. YOu at least answer like a refined lady..btw..I used to live outside Richmond..in Aylett...King Wm county..where do you live in Richmond ?

marilynk · #38 (**permalink**) 12-14-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelliiii

Marilynk is right about AIA. I am the bitter and angry one. People get us confused sometimes. And while we are clearing the air of hot topics that could get dragged in here before I respond to the post, yes my husband is getting a bonus, yes I think the Dugger's have too many kids, and no I didn't get my holiday shopping done....

....

See, I don't see you or AIA as bitter and angry! We all have bitter and angry posts ocassionally--but that doesn't make us bitter or angry all the time. It's only when every stinking post by a person is bitter, angry or whining that I begin to wonder how miserable they are in real life. I know when my life was in the crapper I was bitter and angry, and thought everyone else needed to be too! Now that I'm not angry all the time--I'm a much happier person!

And to clear a few topics in one fell swoop: My ex may or may not be getting a bonus. Don't care. If he does, he will have worked for it and it's his.I know I won't be getting a bonus. But, I already get paid far too much money for what I do--so I'm happy with my job!
The Duggers have more children than I think is necessary or warranted, and I *think* I've got most of my shopping done.

deddlastt · #39 (**permalink**) 12-14-2009, 06:39 PM

At mc, yet another classic case of someone asking for opinions and being confused as to the the definition. This post should have been entitled: Agree with me

When posters do give their opinions - yet they differ from those of the op - they get slammed and called names.

dl

Kelliiii · #40 (**permalink**) 12-15-2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubmom2

I do not find you bit. AIA sounds like a crazy old bat. I think the Duggars have too many kids too. My dh is getting a bonus..and I thought I was done but went to Rite aid today and bought some more things.

I called the one girl last night and asked if she needed any help icing down sodas..we have a huge game tomorrow..she thanked me and I told her I'd be there to help. I think Kelli you may think you are hard and tough but I do not see you that way. YOu at least answer like a refined lady..btw..I used to live outside Richmond..in Aylett...King Wm county..where do you live in Richmond ?

Oh trust me, I've had my sassy moments around here.....but, I am 34 weeks pregnant and on bed rest and just don't have it in me right now.

I am orig from Chicago, but we've been in Richmond now for 2 years...on the Southside in Chesterfield.

suezz · #41 (**permalink**) 12-15-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by deddlastt

At mc, yet another classic case of someone asking for opinions and being confused as to the the definition. This post should have been entitled: Agree with me

When posters do give their opinions - yet they differ from those of the op - they get slammed and called names.

dl

Got to agree with you. This babe is one of a couple of posters who throw around the insults when she does not get 100% agreement. Imagine dealing with her in real life.....as part of an organization.....planning a banquet . Yikes!!!!

Laughing Out Loud

opaldancing · #42 (**permalink**) 12-16-2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cubmom2

YOu really sound hateful and wretched..sorry your life is so evil.

I don't think Allinaugust sounds at all hateful and wretched but I can't say the same for you. Allinaugust expressed her view (as you requested) and you insulted her when she thought you are the one who is wrong in the situation you described.

Why are you insulting her when YOU posted on a message board and ASKED the members to give you their opinions? You should have titled your thread "Come Agree With Me" instead of "What Is Your Opinion?".

Since you clearly only want affirmation that you are right, I won't join the throng in expressing my opinion that it's unfair of you to be so highly critical of the decisions someone else had to make when you chose not to participate in the decision making anymore. I won't join the throng in expressing my opinion that (as upsetting as it may be) the traditions may not be honored if you aren't on the board to make sure they are.

Nope. I won't express my opinion at all. LOL.

mom2twins2 · #43 (**permalink**) 12-16-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelliiii

Oh trust me, I've had my sassy moments around here.....but, I am 34 weeks pregnant and on bed rest and just don't have it in me right now.

I am orig from Chicago, but we've been in Richmond now for 2 years...on the Southside in Chesterfield.

Wow, time flies!!! I didn't realize it's been 2 years since you moved to Richmond. I remember when you were talking about the move and moving. Didn't know you were pregnant either!!! Congratulations!

ILOVEMYCHURCH · #44 (**permalink**) 12-20-2009, 04:57 PM

WOW!!!!
Where is the "close thread" when you need it, huh, Cubmom?
My daughter is involved in sports at her school and we usually have an event like you originally had, booster club provides meat, and then grades are assigned dishes. I like it that way. It is comfortable and a time to get together, perhaps one last time, with parents. Since it is held at school it is also done on our time.
I liked your idea about donating items as well.
Hopefully the group will see that it worked out better and will return to the way it had been.
(I also do not think that CEC is the ideal place to host this either)
Take care.

cjs216 · #45 (**permalink**) 12-21-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYCHURCH

WOW!!!!
Where is the "close thread" when you need it, huh, Cubmom?

Haha..it appears that another thread was started on this subject, so not much interest in closing this discussion down. Quite the contrary, in fact!

I don't understand why folks (various) can't seem to hold their own opinons and differing viewpoints AND respect others at the same time. How do people learn and grow if minds can be changed - as if they know it all already.

cj/

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