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Well, you aren't going to get an I told you so from me... I voted for McCain, but really wish that I could have voted for Mitt Romney. I think that he would have done a fantastic job with the economy and would have been good at making hard decisions. When I think of our country these days, I realize that it couldn't last forever. The prosperity, I mean. Historically, it's just the way it goes, right? And then I remember hearing that the US is not mentioned (at least some believe) in the end times. I wonder if we are living in those days... We keep expecting everything to go back to "normal" or at least get better, and there is no promise that it will. It could get worse, or we could be living the new normal. Interesting stuff either way.
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I am not ready to give up on Obama yet. It took many years for us to get in this mess. It won't be solved over night. Give it some time. We would have had the same problens no matter who was elected. Who's to say anyone else would have done things better. We will never know.
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I won't even start to say what I think of Obama. He had not business being in the White House to begin with. Pretty soon you will have so much government involved in every aspect of your life you won't recognize this country anymore. Czar's in the US??? Have you seen the list? Obama lied just like everyone else. I agree that Mitt would have been a better decision dealing with the economy.
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(Blech - Mitt Romney. As a Massachusetts resident, I have this to say about Mitt: Flippity-floppity-floo.)
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I don't really know that much about Romney. At this point, it seems he may have been the least of all evils...I didn't vote for him in the primary's. I just really don't trust Obama. He is overly confident and seems to be a bully and that's how he rules. At some point things will cease to be Bush's fault.......then what will he do?? What excuses will he have. Blaming other ppl is getting old. Man up and deal. Some of these messes would have been no matter who was in office.
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I know you can't fix a big mess fast but I honestly can't see one thing he's done to even start getting us out of this mess. If I'm missing something please tell me what has he done so far to even begin the road to recovery?
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Here's an article you might find interesting: FT.com / Comment / Opinion - He’s not perfect but Obama deserves at least a B
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It kind of reminds me of George from Seinfeld. You know how he would have a job and not really know what he was supposed to be doing....lol. I feel like he's there, but not quite sure what to do now!! He's just better at faking it than George...
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I still support president Obama. As for economic recovery I can say in our household since he's been president my DH is much more secure in his job. He is also working almost 30 hrs a week overtime. I think it's going to take some time to get this country out of the mess it's in. I don't think it would matter who was elected, no one was going to turn this around in a short amount of time.
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I read the article and there are some valid points in there. However I am worried about jobs or lack thereof and I haven't really seen anything done about that. Stimulus funds haven't produced any jobs to speak of around here and I see Oregon (as well as many other states) sinking deeper into a mess. I voted for him I don't hate him I just feel he may not have enough experience to do what it's going to take to get our country back on track. For everyone's sake I hope I am wrong. And yes I am willing to wait and see what happens however I am scared that things may never get back to a place of prosperity.
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| Well, we did not all cram anything and we did not all change our minds.....(me)
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| No one crammed Obama down anyone's throat. It's called an election. Time for you to take a civics lesson!
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I think she meant that there were some ppl on here and irl who were VERY vocal about singing Obama's praises. He just aint all that. He's just not...I don't think anyone can really argue that at this point. Ya just gotta be careful when you loudly champion someone. It could come back to bite ya in the butt...lol
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| No politician is all that and a bag of chips. I still support him.
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Mom, Thats exactly what I meant... there were quite a few people on here who just thought that he was going to change things over night and anyone with a different opinion was automatically wrong. It was OBAMA this and OBAMA that and the funny part is, he has not really done anything that he claimed he was going to do...
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Oh - no worries there! DH and I were just talking about this the other day. We always vote for who is the best person. Next years election, we will be voting straight party lines! It's time for change! (Hmmm, where have I heard that before?!) LOL! Lisa
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I'll give him more time....however, I didn't vote for McCain or Obama. I think that perhaps President Obama is/was overwhelmed by the complete and utter mess he inherited. It may take him a while to get somethings straightened out. I'm not impressed thus far, but I know there is a lot of work to done and he's just started.
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I personally do not regret voting for President Obama I will admit however I am upset that our troops are not home and more were sent. I know it was not going to be a easy task to remove all the troops or to end a war that should never ever ever been started. With that being said I stand firm behind him and sincerely hope and pray that 2010 will be a better year for all us Americans. I also will say if Obama was not the president I personally feel no matter who got elected as our new president would be dealing with the same problems which were major that was left behind to deal with. Personally I wonder if ex President Bush was still the president what state would our country be in. Peace. Catherine
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The thing is.......the problems were not all the fault of Bush, although he is the favorite fall guy. Things happen beyond anyone's control due to decisions made by many people. Obama is trying to control everyone, and that's not gonna work either.
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Bush was the president for the last 8 years so if Bush did not create all the problems who did???. That is the sad fact President Obama did inherit all the mess ex president Bush left behind and there is no way a miracle could happen and President Obama can fix everything 1-2-3 . peace. Catherine
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Yes, Catherine everything was Bush's fault because that's how much control one man has. The auto industry, the economy in Michigan, the housing collapse....all Bush's fault. lol I mention Michigan because that's where I am and we've been under the leadership of a Dem Gov. for many years.......that's Bush's fault too...hehe
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To Allinaugust while I will say its not 100 percent Bushs mess, again he was in control, he was our president and he did start that war which billions of dollars have been wasted but so more important then that, if the sad lost of innocent lifes here and abroad. Again I will state no matter got elected into office as our new president things would be the same as far as spending and debt is concerned Bush practically succeeded and put our country in the worst financial debt in decades and that is the absolute truth. Again I sincerely hope and dearly pray that 2010 will be a better year for some many many millions of Americans who have suffered the cost and state of our country . Peace. Catherine
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The only thing I think can legitimately be pinned on Bush is the war, but that took the approval of the Democrat-controlled congress... And frankly, the terrorists. Every president inherits crap. Bush inherited the collapse of the .com boom and a growing covert terrorist operation that had been messing with us for years in the form of a WTC bombing attempt, a naval tragedy, etc. Clinton had not properly assessed the threat known as OBL...and Bush got to deal with that 8 1/2 months into his first term. Talk about an inheritance... |
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Bush inherited a spend, spend, spend mentality of the general populus. Economies and crash of economies take many years to happen. I like Clinton. I think he was an ok President--but he did some of his own damage that Bush inherited. It's a cumulative effect. And unfortunately, I don't have a lot of confidence in President Obama's ability to fix things--not in 4 years, or in 8. If he wants to fix things he better get cracking on it!
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Our government, lead by Bush at the time, responded to terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Should we have just let that go? I don't want to stir the pot; I am legitimately interested. Knowing only what was known at the time, what should have been done differently?
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| For starters, he shouldn't have started a war in a country that had nothing to do with the terrorist attack.
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That is my opinion.
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The sad fact remains for all of us Americans whether we agree or disagree with whom caused the problems and to whom must take care of the problems facing our great nation, we should all come together as the wonderful country we are and pray and pray alot so that our country can heal and stand proud back on her feet.I sincerely hope we have seen the worse and perhaps just perhaps things will be so much better for all Americans one and all. Peace. Catherine
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| This pretty much sums it up for me as well. We had NO good candidates for the last election. I was like, "this is the best our country has to offer?". Man, that's scary. I hope we had at least a decent option in 2012. I am no Bush supporter by any means but I didn't like Clinton either. I think every president takes on the crap from past presidents and some of the crap doesn't appear until after they are fully in term. What Obama has attempted to do thus far doesn't impress me in the least. In fact, it worries me.
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I'd much rather he be on his knees in prayer than standing at a podium pushing us to spend on health care and bailouts. |
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Obama did nothing for Illinois, he'll do nothing for the country, but drag us further into the depths of dispair. All he did for Illinois was collect paycheck while he ran for president. He talks a good game and a lot of people fell for it.I agree we had no good choices for president last election. I just pray to God we can last until we can get his sorry butt out of there.
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As far as I am concerned, Obama is NOT my president. He is a joke-don't think that he can walk and chew gum at the same time. Poor guy-had to delay his vacation to Hawaii by a day so he could address the terrorist stuff. Now, when he gets back, he doesn't get to address the healthcare situation, once again, he gets to talk about the terroist stuff...Um-my country is paying you 24/7 to be the president. In the heat of all of this, why does he get a vacation? Yeah, yeah, give him a chance-he's only been in office for a year-b.s.-that's a quarter of his term! Do something already!
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| President GW Bush spent 490 days at his ranch and 487 days at Camp David during his presidency - 30% of his eight years as president.
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President Family Values flashes the bird. Classy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w73dVVPRk0
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I've watched Obama during his speeches about this latest terrorist attempt. He seems to have no passion, no determination, just a blank slate attempt at speaking to the American people. Just like he's reading from a script that means nothing to him.
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Haven't you ever gotten something you thought you really wanted, then you were disappointed when you got it!!?? That's Obama. Maybe he's rethinking this whole PResident thing, but there aren't any take-backs!
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Did you all know that his "yes we can" phrase played backwards sounds like "thank you Satan"? It really does too! My son found it on some program online and you can say a phrase and it says it backwards. I know it doesn't mean anything but it's still rather creeepy.
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