This was posted by a mod. in another thread that has since been locked:

"For the record - annadrose does not have any other logon on the MyCoupons site. Her IP address was checked against all other IP addresses from MyCoupons members."


Maybe by publicizing that this can be done will help deter those who DO have add'l IDs?? Just a thought.

__________________
Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

and I think that those who do come up w/ alt IDs should be publicly "outed" for the trolls they are....
But that is just me!

__________________
Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

That would be helpful wouldn't it!!!

That would be a lovely idea and hopefully perhaps it can happen. Peace. Catherine

just a note....it is EASY to change your IP

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

Thank you that is great idea.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

No, it won't because they're laughing at that ridiculous statement! Checking an IP address against all other IP addresses from MyCoupons members means NOTHING at all. There's many ways to get a different IP address and most require little to no effort. There's proxies, there's many IP providers who issue a brand new IP address at each log on (AOL comes to mind), there's even browsers that hide the real IP address and insert a different one, etc, etc, etc. The list is endless.

It would have been better for Annadrose to just leave well enough alone and let the closed thread be the last (incorrect) word but since you brought it up again, let's also publicize that the mod cannot say that Annadrose has no other logon at my Coupons and her 'check' was a meaningless waste of time, as a quick Google search will verify.

Opal I ask you kindly to please please do not turn this thread into another bashing of Annadrose she contacted the mods they verfied the information she asked and that should be it, there is no need to go further with the topic and it truly should end and if you do not like the poster or any other poster kindly just put into use the ignore feature. Thanks so much. Peace to all. Catherine

It would be a lot of work to knowingly use a proxy or other method to have a new IP when you log in. I guess if someone were truly twisted they would put that much work into a board---I just don't know that anyone on here is truly that twisted. (we have had a couple in the past, though).

__________________
Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

I don't even know what to say.........

__________________
Melissa

you can get a new ip about as quickly as you can sneeze!

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

I'm not bashing anyone but there's no reason to pretend that the mod can say with certainty that Annadrose (or anyone else) doesn't have other user names. New IPs are easy to get (with no work at all) so the 'check' the mod performed at Annadrose's request means absolutely nothing, as a quick Google search will verify.

I do agree that it would have been better to just let it end and I said so in my post.

Really?

I wouldn't know.

I know that my IP at work is run through a proxy, but my IP at home is static.
I guess I just don't think nefariously like some people here do!

__________________
Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

"nefariously"...great word Marilyn!!

__________________
Melissa

yes.....in your internet settings there is an option to refresh ip. it takes 2 seconds if that and you don't have to be a rocket scientist or do heavy research to find it. I found it by accident one day.

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

If all someone's posts come from the SAME IP then it would be impossible to pick the IP address and change it back to the same one every time. They must not require too much common sense at posting personal information about another member is not allowed.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

what are you talking about? you don't even make sense. you can change your ip then log in under you secret name and post....again, not rocket science....lol

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

Am I correct, though, in thinking that if that's all you are doing to change your IP that your new IP will be almost identical to your old one? I thought that the initial numbers of an IP were apt to remain the same after a refresh, and were identifying unto themselves -not that they would pinpoint your location specifically, but that in general, they would indicate what ISP you used, and your general area.

I would think that even if two IP's were not identical, unless one was using a proxy of some sort that simply using groovy's method wouldn't really 'hide' you very well.

maybe not......dunno. my son is a computer wiz and he just said it is way easy to hide.....i never had a need to.

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

Yes, you can download a program to have a "ghost" IP address. I just do not think the average "joe" or "jane" as the case may be, is even aware of this possibility.

If someone is computer savey enough to go to the trouble to set that up just so they can go on a public forum and troll....well then, they probably need to get a life.

__________________
Mary

Um, yes, but what anna is saying is that you can't keep going BACK to the other IP.

I realize that '1.1.1' is not an actual IP, but say for the purposes of my example that it is.

Say you log in as Don Ho and your IP is 1.1.1.

Then you decide to log out, refresh your IP, and come back in as Dana Ho. Now your IP - or rather, 'Dana's' IP - is 1.1.2.

Then you want to post as Don again, so you log out of Dana, refresh your IP, and log in as Don.

Don's IP will NOT go back to 1.1.1. It will be 1.1.3... or some other random last digit... but it will not return to 1.1.1 on refresh.

What Anna is saying, groovy, is that if they checked Don's IP info for all of Don's posts, and Don was consistently 1.1.1, so long as only one computer is in play, Don is always Don, and Don cannot possibly be Dana since Don always has the same IP. Don can't get 1.1.1 back on that computer once he refreshes and gets a new one.

That said, if there are multiple computers in the house, one can have different IP's. They will, however look very similar and have a lot of numbers (I believe the first several digits) in common, so it would look quite suspicious if two ID's had a lot of numbers in common.

Not sure how the IP works/looks if someone posts from a mobile device...

i know what she was saying.....but i also know it is really easy to do what some say she is doing.....i really don't think she is smart enough, though....easy as it is.

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

No, here is the exchange I was talking about:

Originally Posted by annadrose View Post
If all someone's posts come from the SAME IP then it would be impossible to pick the IP address and change it back to the same one every time. They must not require too much common sense at posting personal information about another member is not allowed..

Originally posted by groovygirl View Post
what are you talking about? you don't even make sense. you can change your ip then log in under you secret name and post....again, not rocket science....lol
____________________________

She said you can't change it back to the same IP every time. It made perfect sense. You CANT change your IP and log in under a secret name and THEN get your original IP back for your 'real' ID.

I think you hit the nail on the head....
If someone is that desperate to troll, then they have some serious issues.

__________________
Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

yea.....i don't think people do that to hide on forums, but for other reasons.....but it really is easy.

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

I am thinking groovygirl and opaldancing are the same person posting under two different names. That's why "they" keep at it and won't let it go.
And that's why "they" are the ONLY two members who keep saying this nonsense.
The only times in my life I have ever seen someone with this obsessive behavior was when I worked in social services and had to deal with meth using tweekers.
I have received many PMs of support from members who KNOW this is just BS by someone who is mean and nasty and has nothing better to do than try to intimidate me off the boards.

That is NOT going to happen. I have made some good friends here that carry over to Real Life and I am not going to let one person with two usernames affect me. I know who I am.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

For the record... I only have one ID here. On another board -a business-related board - I have two. My "real one" I use when I need credibility or don't want to say anything controversial, and my alter for when I am going to say something (good OR bad) that someone might disagree with and then mess with me IRL. My personal contact information is associated with my 'real' ID so I guard that much more closely since my business reputation depends on it.

Removed post for threats and vulgar language

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

There is no stalking you told everyone where you work. I'm just repeating the information.
Now just get a life and stop it nobody here believes you but your alter ego opaldancing.

Now I am finished with this nonsense and I will not respond anymore to your pitiful attempts at baiting me.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

Why would I need to be opal, when as myself I have told you all that I think of you? You did make stalker like remarks here, more than once and many people saw it...so if I ever needed to prove it, I could . I really don't want you looking for me any more...you SCARE me...maybe you are opal.....

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

Just an observation...before anyone else starts accusing someone of having 2 IDs look at the members name - see the button beside the name? If it's green then that member is signed on and has MyCoupons up. A moment ago opaldancing and groovygirl both had green lights, so unless they live in the same house and have their computer set up to a router - they are not the same person.

__________________
Mary

Maybe all three of you are opal and you've concocted this whole this for your own amusement. Maybe there's only like five real people on this board and a bunch of alters. Or maybe just one person with multiple personality disorder who argues with themselves all day. Maybe none of us even exist, ever think of that?

__________________
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.

Mary, I honestly don't have a clue about who might be using alters and who isn't, but on the other board I belong to where I do have two ID's (and when I use my alter, I acknowledge it's an alter, btw! :-)), if I have been logged into one ID within a 15 minute span it will continue to show me as logged in, even if I have logged out and come back in with my other ID.

So... it's common for both of my ID's to show as being online at once. Sometimes I have my laptop on the desk by my desktop, and keep one machine logged in as the 'real me' and the other logged in with my posting-only ID just so I don't accidentally 'out' my PID.

I had actually considered this possibility before - lol.

Not for real... but that it would make a fascinating book. Someone could lure someone else to participate in a chat board with 'ten other people', totally unaware that there weren't actually ten others, but rather just one.

Gives me the willies just thinking about that possibility!

I knew this was going to come up. You are absolutely right. But because I notice who is logged in off and on all day. I've seen them both on at the same time and honestly, it just does not make sense that someone is going to go to the trouble to go back and forth on computers just to irritate another member. IMHO

__________________
Mary

I think your reasoning is sound and that refreshing an IP wouldn't work very well if one wanted to hide. I've never used a proxy so I don't know how effective or time consuming they are but there are browsers that allow private browsing with different IPs and they should work as well and as quickly as any other browser.

And if they're on dialup, it would be no effort at all to change IPs because a brand new IP address is automatically issued at every sign on. Literally, they could sign on to AOL with a stored password, sign off and sign back on in less than a minute. It would take them longer to sign in to My Coupons than it would to get a new IP! Even Anna could handle that.

As for changing their IP back and forth, they wouldn't need to - that's just Annadrose trying to cloud the issue. They could just leave their desktop IP alone and always post from it with one name and only change the IPs on their mobile phone or laptop for their other user names.

You know Anna, for somebody who always whines about people being mean to you and running to the mods for help whenever you don't like the responses, you sure don't mind insulting everybody else every chance you get! You even brought me into a thread I hadn't read or been involved in at all! In other words, you keep deliberately starting trouble and dishing it out but can't take it. You cry like a baby then and call for help from the mod - disgusting.

You KEEP ignoring the rules and insulting me and Groovygirl but think we shouldn't respond in kind. And I haven't responded in kind because (unlike you) I'm not stupid enough to send a stranger the vulgar message that you sent me. I'm glad you've made some online friends because I don't think you have any in real life. According to you, you have problems with many different people and it's obvious why that is. It's sad that you aren't capable of understanding why.

You CAN be unintentionally funny, though. I printed out all your libel posts and read them to my guests. They laughed so loud, they roared! So I guess you do have some value after all, even if it's just entertainment value.

Groovy girl and I have settled our differences privately and I would appreciate it if you would just stop.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

I love this post. It's a little scary to think you could be right! Or what if the owner of this board really has no members and forces his poor children to post as different people to fool the advertisers? Judging by some of the juvenile posts I've seen, that could well be!

But I'm not Groovygirl or God forbid, Annadrose. I have one name, one computer, no proxies, and no alter egos - unlike some people here. I won't say who because I'll get sued for libel. LOL.

What the heck is wrong with you? Are you so pitiful that you're going to carry this on forever? It has already been stated that I have ONE AND ONLY ONE IP address. It would not be possible for me to change it to be someone else then change it back to the same one every time. If groovygirl and I can make peace then why can't you just let it rest. Nobody here believes I am more than one person. I don't even think you believe it you're just repeating it over and over to try to bait me. Just stop it please what you do in life will come back to you. I have never been mean and nasty to you. Just because you don't like the way I talk or look or my political views is no reason to try to hijack a whole forum.
Just stop it or soon everyone on mycoupons will see you for some sort of lunatic. All you have succeeded in doing is bringing me and many people together in unity wondering and scratching our heads. I guess I should thank you. Because of your nonsense I now have more friends on this forum than I would have without you. So thank you God works in mysterious ways.

__________________
The political system is broke and it's a joke.

do you (general you) sometimes get such tunnel vision that you don't see the "bigger" picture? I think that's what happens when threads spiral into a dismal abyss. A couple of posters look at a couple of sentences, feel they need to defend their position--and don't realize the bigger picture. I think sometimes, and I know I'm guilty of this, you choose a "side" or position, get really involved in the "discussion" and realize about 3/4 of the way in, you could be wrong or misinformed--and can't figure out a way to back out without admitting your wrong. *shrugs* I don't know....just throwing some things out for consideration.

__________________
Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

__________________
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Been there done that!

__________________
"When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream."

John Lennon

I totally agree. I typed and erased, typed and erased.... Then realized I couldn't adequately convey my thoughts about how out of control this has gotten. Yikes.

__________________
Kim

This thread is being closed due to personal attacks and being off topic.