I just heard on tv that they have separated. Is that old new or did I miss it? That slimey John FINALLY admits that he did father that baby. He may have male genitalia but he's no man. God Bless Elizabeth. I also heard they had renewed their wedding vows the year before he started the affair. The arrogance of that man/boy.

What I read online this morning is that they renewed their vows in summer, '07, and the child was born in Feb. '08. Do the math. What a slime.

I also heard on tv (don't recall what channel or show) that apparently all was not well in the Edwards household during the campaign, and that the campaign staff was well aware of it. The insinuation was that we were sort of fed a load of bunk that this was all a huge surprise to Elizabeth.

Who knows? I just know that given my only 'knowledge' of the situation has come from the press, it's all suspect! lol

I read online that he admitted to the baby being his.

John Edwards Admits He Fathered Baby - The Two-Way - Breaking News, Analysis Blog : NPR

JOHN EDWARDS CONFESSES: "IT'S MY BABY!" TO WIFE - Celebrity News | Gossip - National Enquirer

FOXNews.com - Report: John Edwards to Admit He Fathered Mistress' Daughter

ETA what a disgusting excuse for a man

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When I saw some of this on the news this morning, I was surprised he hadn't already admitted it. I just figured I'd missed something. Anyway, I saw his face and thought, "was it worth it"? Was SHE worth it? Was the sex good enough to make you ruin your life??? I don't care where their marriage was, work on it or get out. stupid, stupid man

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I had seen earlier that she was aware of the cheating....but stayed in the game. I am guessing that she want to be FIRST LADY really, really badly and was willing to overlook the problems,

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Nothing, to me, is worth staying in a marriage with a cheater. Especially when the cheater also lies to everyone in the world. Not even the $80 million that Tiger purportedly offered Elin to stay in their marriage. I'd rather be poor and just another anonymous person with a good husband that I could rely on than to be rich or First Lady with a cheater.

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Well said!

I read something this morning that said they are staying together, and that Elizabeth considers this part of "John's life" and not part of hers. I found that odd, but, OK.

Personally, I think she stayed because they still have 2 small children in the home, and a mother who is dieing. Her cancer is incurable. That alone is a lot for a child to handle, and when their mother passes away, they are going to have to be with the father. I think it was a very difficult decision for her to make. I would want to vomit every time I looked at the man, myself, and he'd definitely never touch me again. But, I think she made a very admirable decision to stay with him, for her children's sake. (assuming of course that this is why she stayed).

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The only thing I can say is how very sorry I am for Elizabeth. To be in a fight for your life and then to have to deal with a husband's infidelity...made worse because the whole world knows about it...is just more than one person should have to deal with. I think she's a class act and I think he...is a slimeball.

I think slimeballs might be offended that you put him in their group!

Slime all the way and there is never ever ever any excuse for anyone to cheat. I remember the interview Elizabeth did with Oprah at her home and she said she decided to stay. She also said she was angry at this other women for starting a relationship with a married man her husband and interupting the life they created as a family. As much as I dearly love love my husband no way ever could I forgive it would be over. I do however feel very sad and sorry for Elizabeth first her husband cheats, she has terminal cancer, has smaller children and her cheating lowlife husband admits the child is his. My prayers are with Elizabeth. Peace. Catherine

Actually, there is a lot of new information coming out that Elizabeth is simply not the saint that everyone thought she was

She certainly wasn't a saint.There has been a lot of discussion about other tawdry little aspects from Game Change but little discussion of the Edwardses, I kind of thought that this was the most explosive story.

Frankly, Elizabeth did not look good at all. She frequently referred to John as being stupid and unread in front of staff. I think I see why he may have turned to Hunter.

Her behaviour doesn't excuse his affair. But, she is terminal and needs to think about the kids.

There are always two sides to every story....

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It still boils down to a matter of character though doesn't it? Even if she's a "witch" behind closed doors that doesn't ok cheating. And she's very ill. Couldn't he at least see how that turned out........he could very well have been widowed by now.......

No, it doesn't excuse his behavior. We are all responsible for our own actions and decisions. But she was painted as a saint, and that seems that simply wasn't the case. So I suppose she must take some responsibility for the turns her life has taken as well.

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All it proves is that both are human.

She's human but he's human scum!

I just personally did not like with the interview with Oprah about Elizabeths comments on her husbands affair, that she blamed this other women for starting up with a man who was married a long time, had 4 children, had his career, had their beautiful home they had together. To be while the other women was not right either for having a affair with a married man, it was far worst for John Edwards for having this affair she Elizabeth should have been blaming more on her husband instead of this other women. No affair is every acceptable, if your not happy with your marriage, if you decide you do not love your spouse and you tried all means of working things out. Then get a divorce and then start a new relationship, you cannot have your cake and eat it too no way no how. Peace. Catherine

I have to agree with you on this one Catherine. I have never understood the mentality to scream at the other woman, no I wouldn't be happy with her, but the spouse would be my target. HE was the one that couldn't keep his business in his pants, He was the one that made the vows to his wife, but the other woman gets all the blame. Just plain dumb.

I think it's a weird form of self-defense.Easier to blame someone you don't know and love than the person that you thought you knew and that you love.

I agree with this too. While "the other woman" is of low character to mess around with someone's husband, ultimately it is the husband that made a vow to to be true to his wife and that is who she should "be mad at". Personally I would divorce or leave my husband if he broke our vows. Also I am the kind of person who would NEVER even consider making some sort of arrangement with my husband for political or financial reasons and "allow" him to do whatever he wants with Lord knows who.
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Kts I agree with you honestly for me Elizabeth seemed a bit off and not sure really how to answer Oprah, however I assume being her shoes that is Elizabeth, she looked at this other women as if to say how dare you come into our lives and mess us all these years . However fact if fact it does take two to tangle , but her husband ultimately started the affair . It is just me but if anyone can remember that interview to me Elizabeth looks older then her husband, perhaps because of her illiness. Prior to the interview I truly knew what John Edwards looked like however he appeared to look so much younger then his wife, just a thought. Again I feel for her as a mom and also because she is sick, but her husband the cheater is the one to blame. I could never even even imagine the thought it has to be the most heartbreaking reality when your married to someone you love and trust. I would be dearly crushed and hurt more then words could ever convey. Peace. Catherine

I have no pitty for his wife... She knows what he did and she chooses to stay.... She is making her own bed...

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I guess I pity almost anyone who finds herself in a situation like that. If she only had herself to consider, I'd feel differently. She has to make a decision on behalf of her young children, knowing she most likely will not be there to raise them, and that they will need some 'continuity of people and place.'

If she kicks him out, once she is gone that will mean her kids have to move into a new place to 'live with dad' when she dies. That's tough to process - the idea that not only will they be motherless but also that they could be ripped from their 'space'.

She's really between a rock and a hard place... and facing her own mortality. That's not something I'd wish on any halfway decent mother.

Very well put as usual wow!

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I found her comment that her marriage should not be on anybody's radar except her own interesting in that prior to the problem she and her husband were traveling the country giving paid speeches on all sorts or topics including their "happy" marriage,.... you know, the marriage that they renewed their vows to.

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I agree, Suezz. Pride does come before the fall. This has to have been a very humbling experience. If she did know her marriage was a mess and for self-serving reasons chose to paint it as rosy in order to further 'their' political standing, she certainly took a risk and lost in ways she probably never could've anticipated.

Maybe Elizabeth can do a solo series of lectures on the subject of "Tl death do us part". People could go gloat in person rather than doing it here on a board,

You have an Interesting take on this. You have a marriage, you live with it, good and bad..that is true of all married couples. If however, you choose to GLOAT yourself over how grea,.perfect. etc that it is, and it turns out NOT to be, it is worthy of being remarked on...and that is what is happening here. People are remarking that perhaps they should not havbe held themselves up as any kind of model.

If her marriage was "on the radar" of America because she wanted it to be, then she would have to accept that it will still be there when she doesn't want it to be.

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She knew about the affair and encouraged John to continue his campaign despite the rumors. She had to know that with him in the spotlight it was bound to come out.

She wrote a book discussing the affair, spent and hour on Oprah talking about the affair.
She's referred to the baby as "it", and tried to interfere with child support negotiations.

She is definitely is not a saint. I still wouldn't wish terminal cancer or a broken marriage on her. In her situation I don't blame her for staying either, I would want to do what I thought would be best for my kids.

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As long as she can make you feel better about yourself; go ahead and gloat.

the topic is the separation of two public people. That is what we are doing. You have turned it into a personal attack

Apparently, That makes you feel better about yourself,

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Their marriage is none of my business.

[quote=kvmj;3359311]Their marriage is none of my business.[/QUOTE

then why are you reading and posting on the topic?

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[quote=wowitsdark;3359355]Good one! lol

He is a slimeball in my opinion.

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The public knew....just look at him and look at that baby! Despite her claims that "it" doesn't look like her children......this is a 'duh' headline. The slimey part is that he tried to pay off his staffer Andrew Young to 'admit' to paternity, despite the guy being married with a family of his own!! If you are man enough to make a baby, be man enough to admit to it!!!! Despite the consequences and the 'agreements' within your marriage.

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I wish her and her children the best. I cannot imagine the horrors they have been through these past few years. While I don't doubt the spouses of politicians have their own little deals with the Devil, this can't even compare to anything imagined. I hope he rots a lonely life in Hell.

I hear you nightowl. One thing that is surely in the back of her mind is the possibility of the mistress ending up as the stepmom to her own kids if / when she passes on. What a terrible thing to have to consider.

Maybe that will give her just enough anger and determination to keep on living to spite them both! lol My friends wife with Stage 4 breast cancer is still going strong 5 1/2 years past her diagnosis. Of course, things can always change but she's a feisty woman too and I'm sure that must help with recovery, etc...

It must be very difficult to decide what do in a situation where you know your clock is ticking and time is running out. I can't imagine how hard it would be to not badmouth a man like this and how hard it is to imagine he will be the one "loving nurturing" parent left to raise my children. And all the experts for years have been saying you don't badmouth the other parent. This is a public spectacle so it's hard for the adults involved to pretend that everything is normal and the children probably hear and read things that they don't know how to deal with. They know their mother is dying and they know their father betrayed her and they know there is a little sister out there. How sad and confusing the whole situation must be for them.

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It seems that these two and Brangelina are in some kind of competition to see just how badly they can screw up their kids.....

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