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Family Guy makes fun of EVERYBODY I wouldn't be offended if they made fun of me. Hell sometimes they have, indirectly. And one thing about her is how the hell can anyone trust someone who quits in the middle of their obligation. Nobody made her be governor she signed up for it. It will be a huge mistake if she is ever elected for anything else. And she thinks it's satirical when Rush makes fun of "retarded" people but Family Guy is offensive? Palin's campaign against the "R-word" hits snag with Limbaugh - Yahoo! News
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I think it is just a very sensitive subject for her since her child has Down Syndrome. I can certainly sympathize with her. I think anyone would be upset if you or someone in your immediate family had a problem and people were making fun of it. I think she might be going a little overboard, but I think she has decided it is something near and dear to her heart and she is going to make a point of coming out and voicing her displeasure.
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I agree with Julie. I think that the Mama Lion in her came out and she is going to protect her cub. Can any of you honestly say that when you think that your child is being attacked that you do nothing or do you follow your instincts to defend and protect your child.
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Then why is it okay when Rush Limbaugh makes fun of people with disabilities according to her? When Rush says it, it's satirical, when someone else says it's wrong. That's what bugs me. I totally understand defending your children.
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Why is it that people like Palin think that "political correctness" has gone too far until something appears to hit close to home? Then, all of a sudden, it hasn't gone far enough. She can't have it both ways.
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Regarding Rush, this piece of his (from his radio show - it's a transcript) illustrates why I think she did not find what he said offensive. The topic is different - the topic here is Barak Obama's race. Maureen Dowd did something that bothered Obama, and Rush did something that people might see in a similar light that didn't bother Obama. This is from 2007, three short years ago when Obama was relatively unknown. Obama Displays Maturity, Laughs Off "Barack the 'Magic Negro'" Song Quote:
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Why do they need a Down Syndrome actress to make fun out of Sarah Palin. Go ahead, make fun of Sarah Palin, but don't use her kids to do it. It was just completely distasteful and hurtful. It has nothing to do with being pc. She's not trying to have it both ways, she is trying to protect her sweet boy.
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She is a narcisist and thinks nothing of using her kids to further her career. Then, she squeels like a stuck pig when one of them is the subject of something related to the very thing she is dragging them around for. |
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| Rush Limbaugh on Rahm Emanuel 'retarded' comment: Liberals are 'retards,' Where's Sarah Palin? Rush Limbaugh has pounced on Rahm Emanuel's "retarded" blunder and is using the same offensive term to bludgeon his enemies on the left. On yesterday's episode of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing icon used the firestorm surrounding Obama's chief of staff as cover to blast liberal activists as "retards,” and suggest a "retard summit" is in the offing at the White House. This is more offensive to me than the Family Guy show.
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Ya know, I don't know her personally. True, I am on the same side of the political fence she is, so I have a bias. But.... Everything we know about her before her current limelight situation says that she has always, always traveled with her kids in tow. I really do think it's just who she is, and that she herself doesn't sit around thinking of them as props. If she has any handlers, I am sure THEY consider whether, as props, it's good for her to have the kids onstage or offstage, but I don't for one minute think she lets them decide if her kids can go on the road or need to stay home, etc. During her VP run, it was brought out that her expenses as governor had been audited, and if memory serves, she had to repay some money spent on travel for her family to some little smalltown festivals where she spoke, and the kids just attended the festival. I vividly remember Bill and Hillary walking hand in hand with Chelsea as they went off to try to salvage their family after he finally admitted Monica was more than just an intern to him. At the time, I thought they were most certainly using her as a prop. Now that I'm a little more seasoned in the parenting department, I absolutely understand how devastated our kids would be were we to ever be in that position. I've watched friends divorce, and witnessed their children wanting desperately to re-connect their distant parents.... and I'm much less cynical of that picture I have of the Clintons. It really is too bad that a political parent can't just parent like the rest of us. I certainly spent a lot of time at my family's workplace, right along side my mom and dad, and was able to do so without anyone think I was a prop. |
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I have big question for you Wow since you are on the "same side of the political fence" as she is. How could you trust her to fulfill an obligation of political office when she quit her job as governor? If she can't fulfill her obligations there what makes you think she would do so in any other situation? If the heat in the kitchen was too much for her (I'm not sure that's why she quit but I've heard people say things like "oh people were so hard on her she was so scrutinized" etc etc) how will the heat of an elected office with so much more responsibility be something you would have faith she wouldn't quit on?
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I don't think she would resign were she to be elected POTUS, if that's what you are asking. Obviously, I have no proof of that, but I don't think her resigning as governor is any sort of indicator as to how she would be in another role. If you remember, Hillary was emphatic when she ran for her position as senator from NY that she did not have aspirations to be anything but a senator from NY, and that she had no desire to run for POTUS. What did she do? Run for POTUS, loose, and take another job working for the POTUS. People often do walk right into one election with their eyes on another while claiming all the while, "No, really, THIS job I want right now, the one I'm running for, the one for which I seek your vote, THIS job is it for me, and I will fulfill my term. Yes I will!" And... before it's all said and done they are vying for another role. Biden? Obama? McCain? Palin? GWB? Clinton? All held elected office and then decided to pursue another option. They did that before serving their full terms. They quit. Regarding Palin's resignation... My understanding is that her decision to leave was multi-faceted. For one, her presence in that role was costing the state of Alaska a fortune, because some who opposed her politically were coming up with all sorts of charges. The state was forced to pay for her defense for some of them, and it was tying up the time of the legal staff as well as costing oodles of money. If memory serves, while she was running for VP about 20 ethics violations charges were brought against her that were related to her role as governor, and all but two were totally disproved. The two that were questionable had to do with travel expenses and whether or not she was allowed to take her husband and children along when she was traveling on state business. I believe she agreed to reimburse the state for those things, but I could be wrong. The cost of defending those charges was very extensive - hundreds of thousands of dollars, all because she was running for national office, and all paid for by the State of Alaska, which hardly seemed fair to Alaska. After her run, because she was interested in a career in national politics and was a popular figure (both loved AND hated), there were people who opposed her who continued to bring forth charges that the state of Alaska had to pay to defend. The legal counsel of the governor's office was tied up defending her and unable to worry about legal issues on behalf of the state. Additionally, people were also suing her personally, and whether or not their suits had merit, she had to defend them, She and her husband where certainly upper-middle classers... but it was going to cost millions to defend herself against a number of frivolous lawsuits being filed against her, and a millionaire she wasn't. And the governor's job didn't pay enough to cover her mounting legal bills. Couple those two financial things with the fact that it seemed she needed to strike while the iron was hot and keep herself in the national spotlight if she wanted to someday consider a national position, and it was a recipe for a resignation. ETA: I found an AP piece that was picked up by many newspapers that says her legal bills as of about a year ago were over half a million dollars.... and this described her earning power: Quote:
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This is exactly why I cannot imagine why anyone wants to be in polictics...everything you say or do is scrutinized. In my mind (not political), she was just making a statement as the parent of a disabled child.....
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I have a feeling that if Sarah Palin did not bring her disabled son to public events, she would be criticized for trying to hide him. I don't think she is trying to use him for publicity. I think she is trying to parent him effectively. I am no Sarah Palin fan, believe me, but I don't want to jump on any bandwagon judging how she is parenting her disabled child. I can't imagine how difficult and all encompassing this issue must be to families that are dealing with it. The parents have to fight many battles to give their children the best life possible, and I can imagine that they are always in a vigilant and defensive mode concerning the child. I wish people would lay off this issue. I can understand why the Palins feel a need to address it when it is raised. |
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Seriously? What is it you think she would do that is so scary? Would it be scarier than borrowing 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 like our current president has done? |
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If it's true that she's not a game player or what I take that to mean (correct me if this isn't what you mean) is that she's honest and wants to actually change the way things are done, she'll never make it simply because those in power don't really want the status quo to change. They only allow you in the club if you agree to play by their rules. That's why things in our government have kept going the same way (only the names have changed and NOT to protect the innocent) for so many years. I hate to sound cynical but I have no faith that anyone will get into office at a higher level that truly cares about us working people. I believe they become disillusioned and/or are kept from positions of high power.
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I'm kind of disappointed that more here aren't offended by the use of the actress with Down's Syndrome. What explanation has been given for using her besides hurting Sarah Palin (and anyone else with a Down's Syndrome child as well)? Whether you like Palin or not is not the issue. |
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The point is that this show makes fun of EVERYBODY: young, old, fat, skinny, Down's syndrome, AIDS patients, cancer patients, child molesters, Republicans, Democrats, themselves, you, me, us, alcohol drinkers, pot smokers, pants on the ground, pants up the butt, it makes fun of everyone. I've been watching it for years. I've always found it hilarious no matter who they make fun of.
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I really don't see the difference. The subject matter is just not funny to me, regardless. What could there possibly be to make fun about a child molester. Do you think it hurts their feelings? I don't get it.
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To me personally I do not like Sarah Palin at all and would never ever ever want her as our potus never. I personally feel she should have stayed on at her present position and stay in Alaska. As far as her child as a mom that would be hurtful to me and I can totally understand her getting upset. Perhaps it is just me but when it comes to comedians I am fully aware no subject is withheld or not joked about. However for me personally there are some subjects such as retarted people, handicap people, people with aids, child molesters, rape or murder is never ever funny at least to me. Peace. Catherine
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Simple answer to everyone so offended, DON'T WATCH! Geez! I'm amazed how huffy people get about things like that. TURN IT OFF! I enjoy Family Guy, South Park, Etc. I have no problem taking a joke.
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First of all...I don't watch it, ever. So TURNING IT OFF would be difficult. I have no problem taking a joke either, and I'm not huffy, but it seems you are. Not that offended either, but I have a moral compass that tells me some things are just not funny.
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| I'm not huffy at all. It's just cracks me up that people complain about shows like these when they don't have to watch. If people don't want to be offended then they should know NOT to watch things such as Family guy, South Park etc. And some people get all in a huff about these things just by being told about them not necessarily watching them. It just seems to me there are better things to be concerned about then a tv show. But I could be wrong LOL!
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It's satire. If no one is offended, then they're not doing it right. I think the real irony here is that she named her child who has down syndrome (otherwise known as trisomy G), "Trig"
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The discussion was about Sarah Palin and her reaction to a very personal episode. I would say the I don't care what's on, I don't have to watch it, but if we follow that reasoning, then anything goes, and I don't think that's a good idea. Hey, if you think it's funny, watch it. I don't care. And, btw, I can be "concerned" about more than one thing at a time.
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Sarah Palin is two-faced and clueless. She excuses Rush Limbaugh for using the term "retard," but when Family Guy hires a woman with Down syndrome and makes fun of Sarah Palin, she doesn't get it and gets outraged. Her only talent is that she has an uncanny ability to be a caricature of herself.
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Is she going to speak out against this offensive idea that disabled children are punishment or is it ok because he's in the same party as her?
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Wow. Well I can only speak for myself here, but I certainly do not believe that God's punishment for having an abortion is the birth of a child with special needs. I cannot believe he said that, and to say he is speaking for Christians!! ew. not cool. I sincerely hope that Sarah Palin takes on this particular stance. Someone needs to and she seems to be an excellent candidate for the job!
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| Tee hee! Too funny!
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)This is more than being un-pc. It's not the same as Rush or Rahm callously throwing around the word "retard" or a satirical show known for pushing the boundaries continuing to do so. It's an actual belief that children with disabilities are nothing more than punishment to their parents. That is truly offensive.
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This is probably why I don't care for Family Guy. I never could really put it into words, but this probably does it best. I don't think it's funny to put a humor blanket over every single issue in life. Disabilities aren't funny. Diseases aren't funny. Birth defects aren't funny. Stupid things people do to themselves? FUNNY. Issues people can't help? Not so much. I'll probably never understand the mentality of making fun of people for things they can't control is considered "humor". *shrug*
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If the person going through that experience thinks it's funny what's wrong with that? You can go through life you can either laugh or cry about things you have no control over. I find the show hilarious even when I go "uh oh".
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Andrea Fay Friedman doesn't seem to want or need others to be offended on her behalf. Most just want to be treated like everyone else. They don't want to be excluded from the fun just because some self-righteous individuals don't believe they can handle it. Being insulted, made to feel less than, thought of as a punishment is different than being in on the joke and getting to be a part of it.
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I'm all for humor, I love to laugh and don't mind being the butt of a joke. But I can also see that not EVERY topic out there can be made fun of. That's just not realistic. In every aspect of life there is/are barriers - including humor.
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| I make fun of things in my life that I can't control all the time -- including very sad, tragic, and difficult stuff.
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I just read that Sarah and Bristol are going to be in "The Secret Life of The American Teenager." What an oxymoron of a name for the show. Can the Palins find any more ways to whore themselves out?
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| Harsh? Maybe - but they bring it upon themselves. What energy?
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