Walmart to Pay 276 Million to Settle California Environmental Case

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...tal-case-.html


They seem to think they're above the law. I wouldn't trust them any further than I could throw the hand-waving VP.

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- Stephen Colbert.

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No they don't.
They (Walmart) are the biggest "kids" on the block. Walmart seems to be held to a higher standard than other retailers. And they have a target on their backs that other retailers do not.
You did notice that the bulk of the money went to the attorneys involved??

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It is typical, Walmart or not, for attorneys to get the bulk of the money. They always protect themselves financially.

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yes, I completely agree.

I pay out more on work comp claims than they are actually worth, because the attorney (for the claimant) wants to make sure they get their chunk of change.

"my" attorneys are paid whether they win or lose, they are paid an hourly rate---and they don't pad their bill.

I'm fortunate in that I get to see good, fair and decent attorneys in contrast to the scum, bottom-feeding, ambulance chasing attorneys! LOL

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Clearly they do think they are above the law. You think with their corporate lawyers they didn't know they were breaking the law? They either thought they could get away with it, or thought they'd get a slap on the wrist that would make it profitable for them anyway.

They deserve to have a "target on their backs." They've proven that they need to be carefully watched.

They are huge and their impact on the environment is huge. I won't support that kind of business.

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

LOL

It always amazes me how people can despise a company (any company) to the point of being almost irrational.

Does Walmart have it's issues? Sure
Other retailers have their flaws as well! Other retailers have issue that are as bad if not worse than Walmart. The general publice doesn't hear about those because the media chooses to demonize Walmart.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

I'd like to know about these other retailers. Please post links.
You base your statement that "the media chooses to demonize Walmart" on what?

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

unfortunately, the information regarding other retailers is based on the what I know from my employment. I'm sure that if I wanted to, though, I could find some links or information. But, I don't think you're really interested. It's just much easier to blame big, bad Walmart.

The media demonized Walmart in several cases. For example: The man who was trampled to death on Black Friday.
then there was the woman who was was injured in an automobile accident, her family sued the driver of other vehicle, and Walmart's insurance company tried to recoup their paid out amounts. By law they have that right, and most other insurance companies can and will do the same thing---but you don't hear about Blue Cross Blue Shield when they do it, now do you??

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

You're jumping to conclusions. I am interested. I'm not "blaming" Walmart for anything. I pointed out that they've been fined for their abuse of the environment. If others have been unethical, I want to know. There are a lot of stores I won't shop at due to their unethical business practices.

Are you contending that the media failed to report other cases in which people were trampled to death on black Friday? Which stores?

I honestly don't understand your second statement about Walmart and someone's car accident. If the woman sued the other driver, why was Walmart involved? From whom did Walmart try to recoup their paid out amounts?

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

Walmart is a self insured entity, the administer some of their own health insurance claims. When the woman was injured (significant injuries, will be in a skilled care facility the rest of her life), Walmart through their self insurance paid her medical bills. The woman, via her family, sued the driver of the other vehicle (who was at fault). When she won her case, Walmart placed a lien on the award from the court in the amount of the money they had paid for her medical care.
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/walm..._insurance.php
Old article. And Walmart, after getting slammed in the press/media, reversed their decision. They didn't have to. And probably shouldn't have.

MOST insurance companies/entities/third party administrators have the right to subrogate.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know about that case, so its didn't influence my decision not to shop at Walmart.

If you had to dig up a report from 2007 to "prove" the media is out to get Walmart, I think you're the one that's being irrational.

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

really? You brought up a media report for violations that were over 4 years ago....

I don't remember hearing about this when it happened.

By the way, this was in the media for a while. Not just 2007.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/25/wal...tle/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/law/04/02...ion/index.html

now, the family attorney for Ms. Shank r'cd over half of the award---but, he had the audacity to question Walmarts motives??

Policies and Procedures are in place for subrogation, and if a company, any company makes an exception, then the "rules" are useless.

Walmart is villified for so many things. But where else can a 70 y/o person on SSDI get a job working as few or as many hours as he/she can w/o jeapordizing their SSDI.
Where else can a HS dropout, with no marketable job skills, be hired for $8.50 to push carts? Show me one other company who willing hires those that no one else will hire? And.....if that high school dropout is willing or wanting to ascend in the Walmart "family" the opportunity will be given to them.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Please, you aren't stupid. The case was just settled.


I thought you were sincere. My mistake.

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

Ya' know? You remind me of someone.....yeah, you remind me of my ex-husband.
Can't discuss things, can't agree to disagree.
So, just like I did with him.....I just won't respond, maybe if I ignore you enough you will go away(he is!!)

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Can't successfully argue your point, so you stick out your tongue? I'd appreciate it if you don't post on my threads. Thanks.

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

http://blogs.pe.com/business/2009/06...nvironmen.html

Target is target of environmental lawsuit

The Target retail chain has a legal bullseye on its back in California. According to a suit filed today, it has incurred the wrath of the Attorney General's Office and prosecutors in 20 counties, for alleged illegal dumping of hazardous wastes into local landfills.

Authorities want Target to start using licensed waste haulers, and to pay $25,000 in penalties for each of the alleged violations, which the suit says stem from more than 300 incidents statewide since 2001. For instance, the suit says, in March of this year a San Bernardino County Target store sent a photo processing unit with toxic liquid and other hazardous materials to a landfill not authorized to receive such waste.

Separately, retailer Kmart has settled with authorities for $8.65 million over the same issues, according to the Attorney General's Office.

In one instance cited by authorities that led to the Kmart suit, in 2005 a Kmart in Riverside sent 32 gallons of flammable latex paint, nine bottles of flammable STP Water Remover, 11 cans of flammable spray paint, and one can of flammable Armor All Tire Foam to a local landfill not authorized to receive such waste. The waste was intercepted at a transfer station.

That same year, the Riverside County District Attorney's Office began an investigation into Kmart's hazardous waste handling practices. Subsequently, the Attorney General's Office joined the investigation and found that Kmart had failed to account for most of the hazardous waste it generated between 2002 and 2007.

Chris Brathwaite, spokesman for Kmart parent Sears Holdings, said in an e-mailed statement the retailer's settlement "underscores our commitment to meeting all of the detailed regulatory requirements the state is imposing." He said the settlement allows Kmart to "move forward and concentrate our efforts on preserving and improving the environment of the communities where we do business."

Target spokeswoman Laura Opsahl e-mailed a statement saying the retailer is "very disappointed" the AG's office has filed suit, adding Target has been cooperating with authorities for nearly three years. "We continue to believe that further review of our practices will lead to the conclusion that our program not only meets but surpasses the requirements of California law."

Thanks, Ilovejkd. The main thing I buy from Target is DVDs and 75% off post-holiday candy. I can definitely do without the candy and pending the outcome of this lawsuit, I'll look for DVDs elsewhere (or get them from Netflix). I don't shop at K-Mart or Sears anyway, so I don't have to be concerned with them as far as my shopping habits go.

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.

Take it from someone who knows how to keep a man, walmart is ok.

Oh puh-lease.....

You just keep on saying crap like this......exactly what does keeping a man have to do with Wal-Mart??? NOTHING.

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Crap might separate them,
But they always come back together.

Not speaking sarcastically or anything but I am curious what are your special tricks or tips on how to keep a man.I always felt that there were no guarantees in life but if you have any guaranteed secrets you'd like to share I would love to hear them.Maybe you could start a thread about it.

As far as Walmart is concerned ,as long as they keep up the good customer service I get I will always shop there.But there prices lately in the grocery dept. have been too high for me lately.

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I agree that Walmart does have good customer service. I do the majority of my grocery shopping at Walmart. Their prices are much lower than our local grocery stores. My main complaint is that you do have to watch the codes on their food. I have found past code dates on dairy, bread and meat products several times.

Keeping your man under lock & key in a cage so they can't escape you does NOT count!

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Proud to say I haven't shopped at a Wal-Mart since Sept 2003

Really - there's nothing a business could do, other than provide poor customer service, that would inspire you to stop shopping there?

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If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it.

- Stephen Colbert.