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Old 05-21-2010, 08:42 PM
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Wink Okay what does everyone think of the new Duggar baby Josie and all

I thought perhaps we can put a spark into the boards they have been really quite lately lol. So what does anyone think of the new baby duggar girl Josie Brooklyn love the name Brooklyn. I have been watching the whole show since she was born so premature on 12/8/09 she was not due till 3/18/10. Michellle the mom developed problems with high blood pressure induded by her pregnancy and needed to have a emergency asap c-section little Josie was born alive at 1lb 6 ounces sooooooooooo tiny. It is truly amazing that a baby born that early can survive outside the womb. Anyway I read that Michelle knows she is getting older at almost 44 years old and 19 children and now 4 c-sections this was truly a scary suituation where Michelle or the baby could have died sadly. She has mentioned that they feel they would be open to adoption of babies who need a home. For me personally I think that would be a lovely idea however given she does have 19 children and already a grandma again I personally feel she has been totally blessed more then any words could say and feel this is enough and take care of the children she already was blessed with and enjoy the life and all the lifes she and her husband Jim Bob created. Okay so kindly share your thoughts. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:40 PM
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Did the baby even make it home from the hospital yet?

I don't really have much of an opinion on the Duggar clan, but my heart goes out to them. Having a baby that premature is a nightmare.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:12 AM
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Yes she was released I believe on April 7th and they had to stay close to the hospital and not move back to their home, also they had oxogen and a breathing machine,however less then 48 hours Josie had a setback was not breathing well and was having a hard time drinking her moms milk so they had to readmit her and also Michelle mentioned that she does suffer from some plumbing problems that will have to be fixed when the baby gains more weight. I am not sure if she is still in the hospital or came back home. That poor baby has been through so much. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:44 AM
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While the Duggars are entitled to their reproductive rights and their privacy, I'll go ahead and say it - Jim Bob needs to get a vasectomy. Seriously. Even if Michelle were to unexpectedly pass away, does that man need any more children? I think not. Jim Bob has a financial and moral obligation to care for the children he and Michelle have already brought into the world. She has already undergone a large amount of medical prodecures - let him go under the knife. I believe his gene pool has been sufficiently explored.
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:26 AM
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I'm amazed her uterus is not hanging somewhere around her knees by now. She has more than done her share of making sure the brain-washed wackiness that is the Duggars keeps on keeping on.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:51 PM
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I was thinking when I was watching the espisode where Jim BoB and his elder daughters decided to donate blood some were scared of course of the needles and JimBob of all was the most afarid I cannot imagine all she Michelle has gone through to deliver 19 babies the pain and all the needles and c-sections imagine if JimBob had to do that I just thought it was funny how scared his was of the needles. I honestly hope they do consider perhaps one or 2 adoptions and no more . I truly cannot even imagine raising 19 children. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:37 AM
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Well I love the Duggars. More power to 'em as long as they aren't living on welfare, etc... it's their choice.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:41 PM
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All good points made above. Personally, I've been doing my family tree for about 15 years, and I do have one ancestor who had 17 children. Some did not get past their childhoods. That took place about 150 years ago... With modern technology being what it is now, and with what we know about prenatal vitamins and diet, the infant mortality rate is much improved.

I think they have the right to choose what they do, of course, but after a certain age I believe the risk of birth defects rises, and at some point it seems prudent and wise to call it done. I'm not saying to go on birth control if their religion says not to, but they can certainly abstain a few key days each month to lessen the chances. Just my .02.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:00 PM
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I suspect they are done, and just are not going to advertise it.

I've watched a bit of the shows with the baby. My heart just aches for Michelle. How torn she must be, wanting to be with Josie, but all the time knowing she is needed at home. Those older girls must be such a blessing, she has raised them well, and they are well prepared for helping in this time.

I really enjoy watching how God works in their lives. They are truly blessed.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:18 PM
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I love the Duggar family, and wish them the best with their current situation with their premature Josie. I know that they will pull through this and conquer what ever obstacles come their way. They really are the exemplary example of how a very large family should thrive and excel like they have.

I only wish them the best. With lots of grandchildren on the horizon, I doubt they have more children by natural means or adoption.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:10 AM
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Personally, I dont feel that a womans body is made to hold 19 kids... I think they are selfish and into this for the money they are making from the show...
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:15 AM
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Personally, I dont feel that a womans body is made to hold 19 kids... I think they are selfish and into this for the money they are making from the show...
I agree. I wish the media would stop publicizing their freak-show behavior. It just encourages more folks into thinking they can play "bucks for babies."
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:33 AM
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[quote=dannic;3396445]Personally, I dont feel that a womans body is made to hold 19 kids... I think they are selfish and into this for the money they are making from the show...[/QUOTe


I'm pretty sure they had 17 children long before the show came along, so I'm thinking that money was not the inspiration for having children. It just so happens that they were featured in the newspaper first, then one special show showing their family and how they function. It snowballed from there, and people seem to like watching their show.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:50 AM
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:56 PM
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Just because a person CAN, doesn't mean they should.....

It's a proven that the older a woman is, the incidences of complications rise. Complications for the mother AND the unborn fetus.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:15 PM
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I was just at a salon getting my hair cut and picked up "People" while I was waiting. They had an "exclusive" on the Duggars. How in the world can those people take time out to do an article with People while their baby is in this condition? I'm sorry, but it has to be the money.

Oh, and Michelle said she doesn't know if she's pregnant again. She "could be."

You know, if I had as many cats as the Duggars have children, I'd have the authorities all over me for hoarding. If they aren't doing it for the money, I seriously wonder if they are mentally ill and this is just hoarding behavior.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:46 PM
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What I truly cannot wrap myself around is that they do not watch television in fact I believe it was one time they wanted to watch something they took out a very old small television and plugged in it to watch it. However they have stated many many times they do not permit television watching yet here they are making money from viewers who tune into to watch their show. To me I am sorry but that is being a hypocrite. It would be like for me to make a commercial promoting say perhaps perdue chicken now I do not eat any meat at all so to do the commercial and make alot of money I would never. I could see if they watched the show and let their children watch the show but they do not.They themselves have been on the today show so many times and numerous covers of magazines all items they are againist with their beliefs and religion and such. Honestly if Michelle is pregnant and I dearly hope not, she almost truly almost lost her life and the life of baby Josie. She should be blessed that God gave her and husband the opportunity to blessed with 19 healthy children, of course not really knowing what is ahead medically for baby Josie. True they are entitled to do what they feel is right but their honestly must be a cap on how many children. If she Michelle did not have her older daughters to hold down the house when she spent so much time in the hospital how could she have spent that time without the help of her elder children. Of course children should always be there to help that is only right but they also should have a life as well. In the end no matter what I do not agree and enough and enough. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:14 PM
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I could care less if she brings more children into the world or not. They are two responsible hard working adults making the best decisions they know how.

I cannot tell you the poor excuses for parents I see everyday now. It's disgusting, far more than the Duggars having more kids.

From the 15 yos to the couple with the 17 month old that come in almost everytime I work. These two parents have no idea how to bathe, will never be able to hold down jobs because of mental issues and have NO idea how to parent. AND the baby always is bitten up, but what I don't know. These are only two examples of what I see every time I work.

WHY would I care what two responsible adults decide what is best for them and THEIR family that they are responsible for.

There are just too many losers out there to be down on the Duggars.
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Melissa I think you are missing my point perhaps I never ever said they were bad parents or irresponsible parents and yes they are wonderful parents and have raised many polite and well mannered children no doubt about that. However Iguess the points I am trying to bring out and totally feel is the truth or my personal view is that where does it stop 20, 25, 30 was not this last birth perhaps a sign that enough is enough well you are faced with such a medical crisis and they were and lucky they came through with good health so far for Michelle at least and at this point she has had 5 c-sections which is enough more is soooooo dangerous. Also again my personal view is that if you personally are againist television use of it then why do a television show if it is something your beliefs prevent you from doing so. To me they are using all ways of getting veiwers to watch them, read about them, they have many websites, many magazine articles yet they themselves do not partake or believe in this items. In the end I sincerely hope she is not pregnant for the truly sake of her health and that of any newborn children, if god forbid Michelle passed away how sad that would be for all those children. Sorry but I disagree enough is enough Michelle has proved to be a wonderful caring loving mom and now she should sit back and enjoy her 19 blessings and soon to be soooooooo many grandchildren I cannot even think of the amount lol. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:39 AM
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I got your point Catherine. My point is that, while in some aspects I agree with you, they are responsible adults. Women have babies every day. Women who are addicted to drugs, women who have no idea how to be a parent, nor do they care. Little girls have babies with no idea what they are committing themselves to. Babies, children suffer every day because people are idiots. The Duggars are not idiots. I have no idea what their motivation is to publicize themselves. I think part of it is they have a following now, people care what happens to them and their children and they may feel compelled to keep them updated.

The tv thing? I've seen episodes where they go to a relatives home to watch their show. I don't see the hipocrisy in the situation at all. They have strong family values and may just see this as a way to pass those on to those that have no idea what a loving Christian family can look like.
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Great points Melissa I totally agree you 100 percent there are so many babies that born sadly to such irresponsible drug addicted and sooo young girls who do not have the proper means to raise a baby while still be children themselves. I guess in the end I honestly do not know how much money they make and again my true point is the health of all concerned and for that main reason they should be blessed and stop thanks for your response. Peace. Catherine
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Old 05-28-2010, 01:35 PM
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I had neighbors in my old neighborhood some years ago who had 17 kids. My step-sons chummed around with several of the boys from that family and they were the most courteous. polite boys I have ever been around.
Soon after we moved across the street from them the mother had a miscarriage (between number 16 and 17). She was devastated at the loss of the child.
All of the kids graduated from high school (except 1 son who died as an older teenager) and became upstanding citizens. One of the older sons is now Mayor of our city.
This family had absolutely no notoriety. There was no TV shows, magazine articles, etc. about them. Most area residents knew nothing of the family unless they knew them from the neighborhood, church, school, or etc.
In the case of the Dugger family, they already had many chikdren before their TV show began.
Having a large family is what brought them to media attention.
I have read their book and found it quite interesting. They have some awesome ideas raising children and life in general. I just wish them God's blessing's.
I do though, have concerns as to Michelle's health issues if they do continue to have more kids, and also the well being of any future kids.
I am just amazed at how VERY GOOD Michelle looks today, after bearing so many kids. She looks better than many women her age who have had only 4 or 5 kids. I, for one, wish I knew her secret on self preservation.
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