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Even if you want to finger-point at Ward's speechwriter, you can't dismiss the fact that Ward agrees with Obama and thought Obama's speech was inspiring. Ward must be a socialist. I want to see his birth certificate.
__________________ If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it. - Stephen Colbert. |
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| http://www.newser.com/story/19389/cl...lagiarist.html Clinton Camp Calls Obama Plagiarist He says same of her, but admits he 'should have' credited lines (Newser) – Hillary Clinton accused Barack Obama of plagiarism today over a speech he gave two nights ago, the Swamp blog reports. Obama retaliated by hitting Hillary with five instances of her robbing his words, including "Yes, we can" and "Bring this country together." But the Illinois senator later admitted to lifting phrases from a 2006 speech by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. In that speech, Patrick defended rhetoric by asking whether famous lines like "We have a dream" were "just words"; Obama asked the same in his speech Saturday. Patrick absolved Obama by saying that the "point is more important than whose argument it is." Patrick let him use the words, Obama said, but he admitted that he "should have" given the governor credit. |
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True, none of them should have plagiarized each other. Being from MA, it was pretty obvious that Patrick was helping Obama by providing him with a lot of his (Patrick's) winning strategies. They're all from the same party. I find it astounding that a Teabagger would plagiarize a "liberal democrat." LOL!
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you said "What a stellar, stand-up guy. " I guess you have the same feelings for Obama the plagarist. |
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| There's a difference between stealing catch-phrases and stealing an entire speech. And, as previously posted, I don't condone plagiarism from anyone. Frankly, I do think all politicians are a little slimy. Yes, even Obama. But the teabaggers are the slimiest in my opinion.
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Slapping someone on the hand and punching someone are the same thing? That's always a problem with conservatives. Everything is black or white.
__________________ If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it. - Stephen Colbert. |
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| Where's the rule stating that a poster has to express all thoughts on a subject in the first post?
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to give an example you might be able to understand stealing a toy from target and stealing a toy from walmart -- same thing slapping someone on the right hand and slapping someone else on their left hand -- same thing do you understand now? |
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| there is no rule stating that, but if you want to have an intelligent conversation don't keep trying to change your point of focus it just makes you look foolish.
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__________________ If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition, and then admit that we just don't want to do it. - Stephen Colbert. |
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| Unlike conservatives, intelligent conversation evolves.
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Plagarism is plagarism it either makes you a bad person or it doesn't. |
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| Intelligent conversation does evolve as facts are presented, but it looks foolish when facts are presented and you twist your original views to fit around them. Had this been an intelligent conversation you would have taken your foot out of your mouth when it was shown obama plagarized as well not shoved it deeper down your throat. You also would be able to throw out different facts on the subject not the same "oh typical conservative" bs That's the difference. |
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I did say that Obama was also wrong. It's a matter of degree, which you do not want to admit. Clearly, you think I'm full of it and I think the same of you.
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What could I possibly be full of ? facts? -- that's fine with me. |
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So, let's say a woman steal a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk to feed her kids---does that make her a bad person? Let's say that same woman steals your wedding ring so she can hock it for meth---does that make her a bad person? To further the analogy of "stealing is stealing": No, by the letter of the law, stealing is not stealing---hence the difference between misdemeanor theft and felony theft. borrowing a phrase vs. borrowing a whole speech? Which is worse? If President Obama wants to accuse someone of stealing a phrase---he did it w/ the whole "Yes, We can". As my children will tell you: Bob the Builder said that one first!
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To the letter of the law there is no degree of plagiarism, you either did plagriarize or you did not. |
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