I was on a recent shopping "adventure" (always an adventure at Sam's Club, right???) and was chatting with the cashier. When asked what major she planned to take, her reply was:
"I decay yet". It took me a moment to figure that out.....she was saying "I D K yet" for I Don't Know yet. Really??? Is THAT what we have come to???

Has anyone else encountered this, or worse yet, does anyone else speak like this??

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I wouldn't have figured that out. Pathetic. The news anchor constantly pronounces "e" as "a" and this morning started and ended a sentence with "now".

Seeing "ur" typed reads urrrrr and I've now figured out it is supposed to be "u r" as in you are.

The dumbing down of America continues.

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That's just stupid. Proof that texting can eat your brain! I knew it!

Well I totally agree with texting, way too much, however while typing here I am used to the lingo shorter phases for words. We are on a chat board not in College for filling out a application for employment, for me personally I do not see the problem with having to use so much proper grammar for a simple cafe chat board, but that is me. I do agree however proper usage and speech should be used in public speaking or in the general public, it is more respectable. Peace. Catherine

I think there's been stupid teen-speak since the beginning of time.

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Maybe she meant, "I ain't declared yet." Which means she has not declared or chosen a major.

I think there are short cuts that are acceptable and those that aren't. Texting can get tedious if you don't, sometimes, shorten some common words and phrases. Things like "lol" are handy online to show emotion. For everything else, proper language usage and pronunciation should be encouraged, and when writing, spelling and punctuation make your thoughts readable and understandable to almost everyone.

i d k wut u r tkgn abt, leaves a lot to be desired. It reminds me of a cave man trying to make his thoughts known. A form of grunting as communication.

I don't think there is much relationship between texting and posting on a message board. A message board is not limited in characters nor in time, so one should write as one does in any kind of normal social situation---clearly and correctly.

Actually, be it a job application or a message board, one is judged not just on one's opinions, but also how those opinions are written.

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sorry Suezz disagree with you, however we both know , that information is nothing new. Again this is a fun place to come and chat, we are not in school, or filling out a job application, life is way tooooo short for me at least to be worried to always use the most correct grammar, who truly cares if one forgets a comma, or a period, life is too short and again this is me personally......Peace to my friends....Catherine

I don't have to worry " to always use the most correct grammar" because writing correctly comes to me naturally and I use it in all aspects of my life.

If I was less educated or if English was my second language, then I can see that writing correctly might be worrisome.

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If you know how to write and punctuate and do not do it, it's rude and inconsiderate. Punctuation is there for a reason, to make your words more understandable and your meaning clear. Reading something that is not written correctly is annoying and leaves the impression that the person writing it is either careless and sloppy, or uneducated.

My daughter will do this while chatting with me. The first time she did it I had no idea what the heck she was saying...when I figured it out I cracked up. IDK......picturing/hearing my 24 yo. Mrs. Virginia daughter stoop to such slang made me laugh. Now she does it just to hear me giggle. However, she is the GM at an eye clinic and I am certain she would never use it in her professional life. If I heard it in a store from a clerk or waitress, actually any kind of situation outside of chatting with DD I would consider that rude.

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I think it would have taken me awhile to decipher that one. I wouldn't think much of a person that responded that way, unless she doesn't mind looking like an airhead. I think text abbreviations is dumbing down our youth.

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My youngest daughter uses slang like that quite a bit...always in text, but sometimes in conversation. I find it funny. It's just the times. She's in Honors CA, so she is in no way illiterate. There were things that I did that drove my parents nuts and that they did that drove their parents nuts. It will never end. You can fight it or join in...either way, it's not going away.

Lisa

ETA: I use very little "text speak" when I text and my girls tease me about typing out all my words and "texting like a mom!"

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Using sometimes bad grammar is rude, to me that is a bit extreme, again my personal view, so one is perfect, we all made grammar mistakes, and in the scheme of life and what one view's as the correct usage of grammar especially here is minimal to me, compared to what is more important in life. Like I said on a professional matter of course proper grammar should be used at all times. But if someone here were to use it, I would never consider it rude, that is plain silly, this is a simply happy for the most part little chat board. We are not in school, and honestly even if someone where from another country and they wrote here and did not use proper grammar or the time, to get upset over that and this it is rude, then for me that is just mean- spirited. Go back to our ancestors, who came here to America, not really knowing the language would you think they were being rude, would they bother you so much or offend you???. Again my health, the health of my kids my family, the state of our country, all the famine and poor in the world, those are true issues to b e worried about...........Peace. Catherine

I also do not think it is nice to say people who are less educated and put them in the same group of people who use bad grammar is right either. Is their fault they could not pay to get well educated, what for here at the cafe, is that what you mean Suezz.???. Peace. Catherine

Pay? Really? Are you confused about that as well? In this country, an education through 12th grade - that's high school, is provided at taxpayer expense.

No one has to pay to attend kindergarten, grade school, junior high, or high school. Anyone who has been allowed to "pass" and move forward and then graduate with a high school diploma should have met specific standards. Those standards include (far before high school graduation day) minimally being able to construct sentences, spell correctly, use proper grammar, know some history, math, science, etc.

Our ancestors assimilated (fit in) and LEARNED English because they wanted to. They chose a good life, a new life, and they were PROUD to work hard at it and accomplish so many things. For you to bring up ancestors who faced many barriers and yet continually assert how you think it's ok to lump along is off base.

dl

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Thank you for providing an example as to how difficult it is to understand a badly written (and badly thought-out) post.

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Here is what I would equate it to:

There's a block party going on....

The conversation might also have gone like this....

I would be able to get the gist of the second version, even though the grammar wasn't perfect. The first one, however, would leave me straining, and as you can see, the conversation was made more difficult for Donna because Jenny was using confusingly poor sentence structure, and then tried to make Donna feel like it was her fault for not being able to decipher what she was saying. That's when it moves into 'rude' territory to me - when the one speaking is doing so in a way that obviously leaves other having to work to understand their meaning.

It would be another matter entirely if Jenny had just gotten here from Ukraine and didn't know English very well. Donna would probably be delighted to go the extra mile to communicate with her and try to figure out what she was trying to say.

But when you're conversing with someone whose native tongue is English and the other person is not using English in the way most people have come to understand it - according to the rules of basic sentence structure - that's an entirely different matter.

[quote=ILUVLUCY420;3513259 and in the scheme of life and what one view's as the correct usage of grammar especially here is minimal to me, compared to what is more important in life. .....Peace. Catherine[/QUOTE]

It's obviously minimal to you. You make that clear every time you post. Is it really that difficult for you to write a comprehensible sentence? If what you write is important enough for you to post here, then it should be important enough to make it understandable to others. Not doing so is rude, if you are capable of constructing a sentence.

Let's say your adult son is on the sidewalk and starts bouncing a basketball against the front door. For the next 20 minutes you wait, listening to the thunk, thunk, thunk of the ball hitting the door. Thunk, thunk, thunk. Finally you go out and say, "Will you please stop bouncing that ball against the front door?" He replies, "It's not important in life. There are things much more important to worry about." So you go back in and listen to the thunk, thunk, thunk for another half hour or so. You go back outside and again ask him to stop. Again he replies that not what's important in life. So the thunks continue until he goes home and to bed. Your nerves are frazzled, you are frustrated, he doesn't care, he's back the next morning with his ball. Another day of thunk, thunk, thunk. And the scenario is repeated, for days on end. Family and friends have tried to talk to him and all he says is it doesn't matter and that there are more important things that his constantly bouncing the ball against your front door.

We are talking about something here that should be innate. You know the rules so you use them WITHOUT HAVING TO THINK ABOUT IT. I would actually have to make an effort and take extra time to write incorrectly.

Now it you don't know the rules due to lack of education or speaking English as a second language, then that is something else. However, those people, if they want to be assimilated into standard American life, work on that problem.

For a functioning American adult to say that writing correctly is bothersome and unimportant makes no sense and it has never made sense. If that functioning American supposedly is in an academic setting and has even taken on an undeserved title that denotes an educated background, then that is just bizarre.

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Wildwood, that's a really good analogy - and a very good point.

Another example would be what people wear. If somebody accidentally shows up at a formal function in athletic clothes because they didn't understand it was a black tie occasion, I'd expect them to feel a little embarrassed and out of place and apologize for their confusion.

And I'd hope all the other party-goers would say, "It's okay - no biggie, you didn't know! Have a seat and eat your first course. It's not the end of the world, and the most important thing is that we've all gathered to honor this year's winner."

But if it was an annual event, and from the on that person continually showed up looking like she was on her way home from the gym, it would be a demonstration of disregard for the importance of the occasion and others would notice. Especially if they knew she did have nicer attire and just chose not to 'bring it out' for their event.

It would be an entirely different matter if someone who didn't have the means to afford formal wear were to show up looking clean and put together and in their 'Sunday best' - something not as formal as the others, but the best they had. I would hope that the other guests would know that she was doing the best she could, and make sure she didn't feel embarrassed for not being able to do what the others did - show up uber-fancy. I'd *hope* they'd tell her, "It's not a big deal - what's important is that you're here, and we are SO glad to see you!"

The *difference* in those two scenarios is the attitude of the one who wasn't presenting herself in the way that was fitting for the occasion.

The first one *had* the ability to present herself in a way that said, "This is a special event, and I'm showing up in a way that acknowledges the specialness of our guest of honor by coming in my best." Instead, she chose to show up looking tacky in a way that drew a lot of negative attention *towards* herself, which detracted from the purpose of the event and the guest of honor. That's rude.

The second one *didn't* have the ability to match the formality of the event, but went out of her way to at least do the best she could to blend in and not become the negative focus of everyone's attention as the one who didn't take the formality of the occasion seriously.

It *is* important, in forming friendships and relationships, to be aware of how others relate and how you will be perceived. If it's not important to someone to be taken seriously or for them to want others to 'click' with them, then I guess they have a right to go against the flow of the norm. But you can't do that and then say you don't understand why people don't take you seriously.

ETA: I realize that a message board shouldn't be equated with a formal party. I probably should have said it's like you're having a PTA get-together and somebody always shows up in their pajamas. :-)

First off Suezz, stop hiding behind every post or comments you made about me, and be so very true and admit, no matter if I wrote the most perfect sentence, you would still pick at something, because your feelings towards me are deep rooted from another website, and honestly if you think your grammar and English are so perfect, you must be perfect in every aspect of your life. To wildwood and wow sadly I expected different comments from both of you, if you sincerely going to compare a sentence about some neighbors grass and my son bouncing a basketball to more important issues in life, you all need a life.....Sheesh really wow???, a conversation like would get you upset?????????. And to wildwood I am talking about your health, your happiness, your family, death, war, famine, those are more important issues to me. Again this is a simple chat board live with my writing or simply move on, I have asked you ladies so many times. You truly have beaten a dead horse to death, a million times over.............Peace to the more issues in life.....Catherine

Lucy, I was just agreeing with Wildwood's bigger point.

Yes, those things are all more important in the grand scheme of the history of the world. I don't think anyone would argue about that.

Her point was that just because something isn't as big an issue as something tragic doesn't mean it's insignificant. There are many things that are 'more important' than my child's athletic meet this afternoon at 4:00, but I will be with her cheering her on because it's important to me. There are many things more important than whether or not I unload my dishwasher before I leave, but that doesn't mean it's not important for me to tidy up on my way out the door.

She was just making the point that you were comparing apples and oranges. One thing being of huge significance doesn't negate the fact that there are less-history-altering day-to-day courtesies that are important to observe.

You hate texting with a passion, and that's fine. You're very vocal about it and say that it bothers you tremendously when you see someone standing in a checkout line texting like a crazy person. You think they are not showing the person on the other end that they really care by taking the time to talk to them face to face - or at the very least, over the phone. You think it is poor behavior because it's just a flippant message without any deep thought or effort behind it to 'connect' with the other person.

The reality is, there are children starving in Africa, and somebody texting in the grocery line isn't a big deal. It's just a grocery line after all. Why would anybody get riled up over that?

We've all got our hot button issues. At the heart of them, usually, is that people get annoyed when they perceive that someone isn't invested enough in an exchange to put their 'best foot forward', so to speak, and do it in the way that is going to be received in the best possible way by the other individual. Sure, there are *bigger* issues... but common courtesy would solve a lot of the world's bigger problems, IMHO.

Wow yes I agree with you on the part, that we all have our issues. We all have issues on what we all feel it right or wrong. We are all passionate about issue's, but you must admit to me, that I have been picked at numerous times for my grammar. or for my sentence structure , or for lack of periods or comma's. am I correct or making this up. Let's say Wow it was you and it was done to you, perhaps not the grammar issue, perhaps another issue, would it not sincerely bother you??. Edited to say you ended your comments back to be about comman coursity??..you honestly feel that people who are in a public place and speaking so loud on their cell phones and talking and airing all their dirty laundry is respectable and that they are using comman coursity ???. Really it is not, it is not being polite at all.......Peace. Catherine

Edited to say mispelled courtesy....

While speaking loudly in line at a store or not "connecting" with the people you are with is rude........so is not making an effort to make yourself understood well. Same exact thing. ugh

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I made a comment on another thread some time back about the improvement I saw in your posts. There was a small period of time where they were easy to read, so it is apparent that it is something you can do. I like to read the boards, but it is frustrating to me when I have to try to decipher what someone is saying. I'm not perfect; my grammar isn't perfect.. I would say that no one on this board is perfect, but making yourself clearly understood (and easily understood for people who can't spend all day on here) should be important. Otherwise, why bother??? When I can't understand what someone is saying without having to read it multiple times, I skip it. In that scenario, what you wanted to communicate is lost on the readers. If it's important enough to post, please make it clear enough for others to read. The post below makes absolutely no sense to me and I've completely missed your point. I'm sure that's not what you intended.

"I also do not think it is nice to say people who are less educated and put them in the same group of people who use bad grammar is right either. Is their fault they could not pay to get well educated, what for here at the cafe, is that what you mean Suezz.???. Peace. Catherine"

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I think no I know I wrote long time ago I am a very passionate and emotional person and sometimes I type too fast. So if that is a cause as to why you cannot read my posts that I am guilty. However I personally feel the issue about my grammar has gotten out of hand....peace. Catherine

I am not hiding. I am posting with my name attached.

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You have been "hiding" behind that excuse for some time. Your passion...your emotion...you're typing too fast---those are all ridiculous. I don't think you are CAPABLE , for whatever reason, of writing clearly and correctly.

No, wait. I have the reason. You are not capable of writing clearly and correctly because you don't think clearly or logically or intelligently.

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I too, write rapidly and often incorrectly. The difference is, I don't hit the submit button. First I reread what I've written. I correct spelling and punctuation where I think it's needed. Then I reread it for content and make sure it says what I want people to know. Then and only then, do I hit submit. Your excuses are pitiful and whiny, particularly since we know you can concoct a coherent sentence when you want to. I'm pretty sure the computer you are using allows you to go back and make corrections. Try it sometime.

I know that you and I agree on a lot of issues, but this is not one of them. If you make an effort to write coherently and someone complains I will stick up for you and your point of view. But if your sentence structure is such that no one can understand it, then I will not, because I know you can do better, passion or not. You just are a very stubborn person and it's not a particularly becoming trait.

You edited "courtesy" and left all the rest? The ** denote ALL the other errors you left.

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Suezz your a total liar, you know for a clear fact, you dislike me to the core from the other wesbite. You truly are a liar and cannot eve admit that, never once ever had you ever had anything nice to say about me here at mycoupons.com. Honestly at this point I could care less what you think of me, about my writing, or anything about me personal or otherwise........clear fact is your one true trouble maker and will take each and every opportunity to point out something negative about me....Your a vile and evil mean spirited person, and honestly you wear your costume well.........no peace here......just reporting this to the mods enough is enough from you, you seriously need to be banned...............Catherine

OH great, another free on line spell checker...don't even have to download anything...WOOOHOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, this was a store employee. I think I need to emphasize that. This was not a casual setting. She also had a type of "accent slang" for lack of better wording. I was not at all enamored with her overall, and then when she said she wanted to be a teacher.....holy cow......look out!!

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What, exactly is suezz lying about? Did I miss something???

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your does not equal YOU ARE, that would be you're!

And before anyone accuses me of "hating" them to the core, or disliking them, or some such nonsense. I do not know too many here well enough to like or dislike you.

I do, however, have little or no tolerance for someone who refuses to at least TRY to write coherent and understandable sentences.

Geez, Louise!

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Sorry to disagree with you Marilyn and thanks again for jumping on the band wagon to join in and add more to the trouble. However it is a known fact she Suezz and someone else I will not mention names hate me from another website and Suezz knows this to be factual... Also for the record, as she wrote to make all see , she pointed out all the errors I left. And yet you still tell me this lady has nothing better to do with her time, to go over my post and point out every possible grammar mistake, yikes Suezz I feel like I am in elementary school again, I thought we were adults and chatting easily here on the cafe. When did you become a College English Professor, I did report you, enough is enough......................Catherine

For Suezz, my reasons, I stated for the way I write sometimes to you are considered ridiculous really???. Also I as you clearly say I cannot write intelligently, or clearly, or logically, any other rude comments you have for me.. Keeping writing it is becoming more and more clear the true person you are. Rude, disrespectful and plain mean-spirited. Edited to clarify, are there any grammar issue's you have with this post???????????. Catherine To Wildwood, my excuses for the way I write are pitiful, just because I fully admit that I am a very deep and emotional person, you still consider them to be excuses and whiny, oh and let me not forget I am also a stubborn person to boot, because I choose not to make corrections here on a simple chat board, and in your view corrections that are so bad, you and others have to resort to making the big issue's over them for millions of time?????? No peace.......Catherine

lucy, YOU reported someone? That's another facet of your problems. So many have tried to help you. Over and over and over. And yet you are continually wrong on the subject matter regardless of how you justify it.

You think you get a free pass because you didn't pay for your education, and yet can't even realize/admit the issues were all taught (and should have been mastered) before high school graduation.

You think you should get a free pass because you are self proclaimed passionate and emotional. Others here are as well although they DO NOT have to tell us repeatedly and hide behind that. They continually write comprehensive posts with clear thoughts that are normal to read.

You don't understand how it stops people when they have to decode what you wrote. Your and you're are not interchangeable. Apostrophes do not precede every "s", one is woman, not women, and punctuation is appropriate to convey thoughts. Others in addition to me have tried to help you and yet none of them are right, they are all (take your pick of the adjectives YOU have called them) and yet now you want someone banned.

You can't take the time to review what you've written prior to hitting the post button.

You tell people what to post and what not to post - as in subjective matter, not things that are black and white in nature.

You post things and then deny, again crying about being picked on. Yet, it's there in a previous post, exactly what you wrote and you continue to deny.

You think it's ok to lump along and actually promote it. You do not make any effort to improve or take constructive criticism.

HOW CAN EVERYONE ELSE BE SO WRONG?

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