Personally I get sick to my stomach just hearing him talk. I feel like saying, "isn't it 2009 YET?" Then we will FINALLY have a new president. I'm from Texas and have never liked our current president. I'm ready for us to be out of Iraq already!!! I have an 18 year old son who is terrified they are going to instate the draft again. I will read about it in the news tomorrow or on the internet. That's what I did after his speech about more troops. I think that was the last thing we needed to do!

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I will be watching it because I think it is my duty as an American to do so.

We are watching ABC right now

We don't have to "like"any president , but he is the president , and we need to be respectful .

I don't like war but I am standing behind all our service people too.
It is our duty as an american to do so!


God Bless us all!

Well DH is watching it downstairs. I am in the playroom right now and the 13yr. old was supposed to be watching it for school, but was doing everything but watching it, so I sent him downstairs to watch side-by-side w/ DH. So.....right now, my 16yr. old has South Park on and as horrible as the program is, it's made me chuckle quite a bit more than the State of the Union Address would have!

No..not watching.

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Husband watched and I helped with homework. I will get the address in a nutshell from him.

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I usually watch, however all politicians have grated my nerves lately. So I am passing, will catch the highlights from the morning news and watch it later on CSPAN. com.

nope I'm here instead!

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Didn't watch. Can't stand him. I can't even stand to hear his voice.

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I did watch some of it. I can't say I like or don't like him, I don't think he is the brightest guy and his words always seem fake. I know he has writers and tells people what they want to hear, but it's too forced and fake to me.

I also want to add that we don't know the information the government has priveledge to. When the war started a relative who works for the government told us that if they ever reported half of what they actually know there would be a panic and I do believe that. They only tell us what they want us to know, nothing more.

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I agree - he was terrible as our Gov. of Texas (and Gov. Goodhair isn't any better now- figures that he was Bush's protege).

I have 2 sons - 23 & 21, and have the same fears as you do. DH says they will not reinstate the draft, but my fears of that do definitely bias my opinion to this war - I cringe every time I hear another boy is dead over there.

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I agree with Grannyshirl about respecting 'the President' but I have a very hard time with this particular one. I didn't watch but will get the lowdown on MSN online this AM. I am sure that there is an incredible amount that the American public has not been privy to but.............

My feeling is get over it. He is our president. You don't have to like him, but i think a lot of the comments are disrespectful.

That's how a lot of people felt when clinton was in office too :P

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AMEN! Didn't vote for him.Din't vote for his daddy.Yes,he may be our President at this particular time.But i don't respect a man who puts our soldiers in harms way for greed and revenge.Sorry,but that is how i and my family feel.I am all for going to Afganistan where we should be looking for the REAL murder of those who parished in 911.If we went to every country that had a sadist leader we would be all over this world with no one here to defend THIS country.Which is how it is getting now.Thank You!

Would you respect a CEO of a fortune 500 company that behaved the way "Dubya" has? Seriously?

Misappropiation of resources, angering just about every ally we have had (even Britian has backed away from their staunch support), lying, not understanding that you can't win every argument or fight that you step into...my list of why Bush needs to get out is long and continues to grow on just about a daily basis.

Don't get me wrong--I firmly support every man and woman in uniform. They are doing the job that they chose to do and that they have been assigned. I think it's deplorable that we can't even protect our borders--but yet we are trying to save the world! PRIORITIES, that's what it should all be about. And I don't think that Bush has his Priorities in the right place....

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May i say.IMPEACHMENT :-)
Ooops i better watch what i say.I may be audited or arrested.Remember "he" has the right to listen to our phone calls and that probably means our emails and anything we do on our computers. :-)

http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer

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Thanks nanci39....i sent that to a bunch of people. :-)

I just think it's sad with the division in our country. Half the room applauding, the other half not doing anything. Even with issues that shouldn't be dividing the country. I hate politics, but I love it too...

That is why we are "suppose" to be a free country.If you don't feel like the person who is speaking is right then you should not applaud.President or not.I would probably die in my tracks for my freedom of speech.That is why it is soooo wrong for Bush to think he has the right to pull another Watergate.He should be put on trial for his wrongdoings just like the other ones.

AMEN to that!! I have to say that I dont agree with everything President Bush has done, but I respect him...What ever happened to respect for the office of President of the United States??? I think the total lack of respect for the office is pathetic....What ever happenecd to respecting someone for standing up for what they believe in??? The President has done some good things...we havent been attacked since 9-11....We have caught many would be terrorist killers...and frankly I would rather fight them over there than here!!!I heard a Democrat say on the news last night that we needed to negoiate with the middle east??? If they can figure out how to negoiate with someone who has been taught to hate the USA since the day they were born and who dont mind strapping a bomb on and killing themselves and many others, well then I will give them all the credit in the world But I wont hold my breathe. It seems everyone has forgotten about the al quida training camps in Iraq....What about Saddam's flat out refusal to comply with UN resolutions after given chance after chance???? Everyone faults Bush for the WMD faulty intelligence but how many dem's believed he had them too? Here are just a few quotes:

There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

I could go on and on...its a clear double standard they heard the same intelligence...Now before you ask if this war directly affects me...Yes it does, I for one have a son and Ihave a nephew who has served in IraqERVED In Iraq and is getting ready to go back...He says the biggest downer is hearing people say they dont believe in this war...but the support the soldiers...he says you cant have it both ways..if you dont support the war you dont support what these soldiers are doing....He says if thats how you feel, save your breathe soldiers dont want to hear it...He says no one in the states sees how much good that has been done in Iraq because the liberal media wont show it. He said he fights shoulder to shoulder with Iraqis who are like brothers and are so thankful they are there.

But now I will get off my soap box...as for the State of the Union, No I didnt watch for the first time since W's Presidency..... couldnt stand the thoughts of looking at Nancy Pelosi....the sight of her makes my skin crawl ........Sherri

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Sherry

That is why we are suppose to have freedom of speech.You have your opinion and i have mine.But not ALL soldiers who have been to Iraq feel the same as your son.My daughter's boyfriend just came back 6 months ago.He felt he did some good there but he prays he will NEVER have to go back.He is among MANY soldiers who are against Bush and his warmongers.You can say what you feel but i DO support our troops.But NOT in this war.

I have to put my two cents worth in on this post.

No matter who he/she is, the person that is elected is the President of the United States should be respected. It does not mean that we have to like or agree with the decisions made but we should respect the position.

This is my opinion and view and when it comes to politics we all have our own opinion. In 2008 we all get the chance to support someone else and whoever he/SHE may be I will respect them because they are the leader of our country. I may not like OR agree with them though.

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NO! You should not respect ANYONE who misuses and abuses the authority and power that is given to them based on a job title!

I liken it to priests, teachers or law enforcement who abuse the power granted to them just because of their job title. Do you respect the priests who have admitted and/or were convicted of child molestation/sexual abuse? I mean their job title is respectable, generally they are good people trying to do what right and good...but a few bad apples have tainted the name of priests everywhere. The same of teachers and cops! I am sorry, but you can't tell me that respecting a person just because of their job title is the right thing to do!

Bush was, is and always will be a bad President who divided this country beyond all recognition. He has torn down what other Presidents spent YEARS building up. He and his whole cabinet not only disgust me, but frighten the h*ll out of me. I honestly believe that Bush thinks he's God's right hand and as such what he says is right--regardless of the cost to human life!

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I have great respect for the office of the President of the United States, it's a lovely office. Too bad the person in it is a dangerous idiot with no respect for his fellow man.

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GREAT reply!!!

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Then I take it we should also respect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? One can respect an office but the respect of a man - any man (woman) is something that has to be earned and for 63+% of this country this man hasn't .

As for the speech I listened, mostly he was appealing to the Dems quite a switch from last year.

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I liked this reply too..

Ahhh..another good reply.

I have to go prepare dinner.Keep up the good work all you Bush Haters..LOL

We are fighting a war against an enemy that is like none before. Right now we do not know how to win. This enemy is terrorists who attack small, random targets. Thank God we are trying to learn how to win on foreign soil because if we leave we will be saying loud and clear, that when the going gets rough the United States bails out. And that will be a welcome invitation to terroritsts to bring IEDs, car bombs, suicide bombings, beheadings and assassinations inside our borders. I support the continued killing of al-Qaeda in Iraq and other countries instead of on US soil.


God Bless our President.

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I love Bush! He is only the second Republican I have ever voted for, for President in my 30 years of voting. I used to be a Democrat until the Clinton debacle (the whole 8 years). Now I am total Republican. I didn't have time to watch the address, but I saw some of the highlights this morning.

I can't say that I hate him, he isn't worth the energy; but he is dangerous and he does scare me. He is like a little boy who hasn't gotten his way. The only problem is that his tantrum is morally and globally destructive.

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Not defeating al-Qaeda scares me. Leaving Iraq and the Middle East to be overrun and controlled by al-Qaeda scares me.

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I thought that was what we tried to do in Korea and Vietnam(learn to win of foreign soil). That didn't work out too well for us, now did it?

Korea wasn't a huge success, Vietnam was resounding failure that resulted in death and destruction. Vietnam left a legacy of horror that many Vets still deal with on a daily basis.

If we had our military HERE to protect our borders then I think the threat of an invasion would certainly be lessened. We can't even keep out illegal Mexicans that just want to work! Do you honestly think that the borders are secure enough now to prevent an attack? I mean if you do, then please pass me whatever rose colored glasses you are looking through so that I can feel a sense of security and comfort.

To heck with our President, God Bless the men and women who by volunteering to serve our country are forced to follow Bush's master plan.

I honestly can not see how any intelligent thinking person can continue to support Bush! He's lied, abused his power, placed American troops in a no-win situation. And now he wants to send 22,000 more to that sandy h*ll hole? NO! It should stop here. Look deep in your heart and in your brain. Do you honestly believe that the US will ever win in Iraq? Do you believe that we are still fighting the war on terror that began on 9/11? Why can't we defend our own borders? Do you honestly believe that any country would come to our aide now(if we needed it)? I say kick Bush back to his ranch in Crawford.

Bush's decisions, fueled by ignorance and arrogance, will disable this country for decades and cost trillions.

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I watched some but got sick of the spin and the lies.I think that there is a difference between respecting the office of the President and respecting the President. I respect the office but I do not personally respect this President for what he has done to this country-I would never be rude to himi f I met him, and would be respectful because he is the President . They impeached Clinton for a lot less-all he lied about was a little infidelity but I don't believe anything that Bush says and I am sick of seeing all the poor families and soldiers who are being killed for this senseless war. Bush's lies have gotten people killed, screwed up our environment,made his wealthy buddies richer, made the deficit so huge that future generations will be paying for it, alienated us from the rest of the world and helped make more terrorists in training,put more of our soldiers in harm's way,continously violated international and American law, helped take away and continues to impinge on our privacy and civil rights,etc.-I could go on and on. And there have been presidents that I don't agree with but whoI respected because of the way they conducted themselves in office. I am tired of hearing about not impeaching a president during war time-what about Nixon and the Vietnam War? Well thanks to Bush,we will always be at war thanks to his inept handling of the war on terrorism-there will be terrorists to deal with from now on. Oh yeah Saddam is dead, we're safe now! What about Osama bin Laden? He's not in Iraq. I think that it is great that we can share our different opinions, that's what democracy and free speech are all about. Even legislators from his own party do not agree with him but he is not acting like there is any balance of power between the President, Congress, and the judiciary and just does what he wants. A president can not do anything that he wants to in violation of the Constitution, U.S. Law, and international law. This administration would be up in arms if a foreign leader were doing what Bush and his cronies have done. I love my country and support the troops and their families but it does not mean that I have to agree with the president, his policies and this war. Thank goodness he can't be reelcted but they may try to change that rule too. I say God bless us all, we need all the help that we can get!

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Why?

President Clinton, while lacking discretion, never placed this country on the edge of World War III. He got a little nooky in the Oval Office. Big fat hairy deal. If he and Hillary worked it out to their satisfaction who am I to judge.

Not to mention, the Republicans, in the form of Ken Starr, had their hearts set on "firing" President Clinton. That did not work.

Personally, I don't care what party a person professes to be. I vote for the person that most closely matches my philosophies and beliefs.

Currently we have Congressman who claims to be Republican--but I have my doubts! He's the most logical Republican. We also have a Democratic Governon and a Republican Lt. Governor. You have to have people who are willing to bend a bit and work for what the PEOPLE want. It's really simple: The majority of the people (I think 63% last I saw) do not approve of Bush. Thus he should work and figure out what not only would be beneficial to society as a whole, but what will make people feel safe within our borders!

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I Totally Agree !

Are you saying I'm not intelligent? Why are you turning this into a personal attack? I am intelligent and I have a right to my opinion. And the rose colored glasses I am looking through were bought for me by my husband who has been gone since October and who I just happened to have a five minute conversation with when he just surprised me with a phone call. Five minutes. First call in months. But he is there, in the middle of it, and he supports what we are doing. Keep your personal attacks to yourself.

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First it wasn't intended as a PERSONAL Attack. Second off all quit yelling at me. Third of all, I have no doubt that you are an intelligent thinking person. That's why I find it so difficult to understand why you would/could support Bush. It's kind of like the religions that do not allow blood transfusions, even thought the members of that religion are intelligent human beings and accepting a blood transfusion might save their life, they refuse. And they refuse the medical care for their children. I don't understand it. It's great to believe in someone or something. It's even great when you stand up for what you believe in. But there comes a time when you have to look at things realistically and think: "Am I following these beliefs because that's what I've always done, or am I following these beliefs because I'm too scared to step out in faith and think a different way, why am I following these beliefs?"



Good for you husband. He's doing the job he chose to do. But, I am of the opinion that there are jobs for our military that would do far more to protect us then fighting an unwinnable war in a that sand pit called Iraq. Fighting ONE MAN's war (Dubya's war) is not going to benefit anyone but Dubya, Haliburton, and other friends and family of the Bushes. Dubya has sent our military to fight a war that they weren't prepared for. There were not sufficient troops, they didn't have sufficient supplies/armor/ammunition and now, not only are they fighting "the enemy", those troops are caught in the middle of a civil war. Why don't we see our military being sent to Darfur and the Sudan? They have heinous leaders, genocide, etc. Why?

It may not be Rose Colored Glasses.Just a State of Denial or Brain Washing.I think thats what they do to them.I think its sad to make them come back with very little empathy for their fellow human beings.Not all of them but i have seen change in some of these young male friends of my daughters.And yes,i know what they go through and have to do for survival. Like thinking its ok to torture prisoners and laugh at the dead bodys of the enemy.Thats not the passion that i was taught as a child when you are suppose to be Christ like.

Enough said from me.I just hope and pray this country turns around soon.We have so many enemys no one would help us if we did get attacked again. :-(

Okay I started this quite heated discussion.

To the Bush supporters: SHOW ME ONE weapon of mass destruction found in Iraq!!!!!!!!!!
There weren't ANY!!! I think that is the truth. Afterall, what an embarrassment to Bush when it was his whole reason for going in there in the first place. Secondly, I also believe we totally lost focus on what this was supposed to be all about. I think in reality it was ALL ABOUT THE OIL!!!!!! I feel like this is our generation's Vietnam. There is no win to this situation. Sadam Hussain is GONE FOR GOOD NOW! WHat the HELL are we still doing over there. Take all those billions of dollars and manpower and invest them in something worthwhile in our own yard, such as rebuilding New Orleans, or protecting our borders. Thirdly, I also felt that Clinton lying to the public was wrong, but HOW MANY other presidents do you think have done the same thing he did but just didn't get caught???? He is a man afterall!!!! And NO ONE is PERFECT!!!! I just believe that Clinton did a hell of a lot more good for this country than Bush will ever do!!! I don't have to LIKE BUSH or respect him just because he is the PResident. I did NOT vote for him in either election. But yet I'm expected to support things he does that I don't believe in. And also, I don't believe he has EARNED my respect!!! He stole his first presidential election. Many people feel he did steal it!!! He has NO respect for all those families who are losing their kids everyday over there in Iraq. It is heartwrenching all the young men and women who have died over there. How about that woman who camped out at his ranch??? Is it equal yet to the number we lost innocently on 9/11??? How many American lives have to be sacrificed in this no win situation? As an American I am WAY PAST having had enough of our current situation. I didn't elect him!!!! I am NOT insulting ANYONE here on this boards. I am sharing how I feel about a very sensitive subject. I support every single person who has gone over there and done their American duty. However, I think that their lives and time could be better spent on other things. I've met servicepeople who don't even agree with their own commander in chief!!!! Just because he is president doesn't mean we have to agree with him or support his decisions. That is why there is a system of checks and balances!!!

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You've got that right crzy4cpns! I don't understand how some people can blindly support him, no matter what he does. Most of his supporters will not even admit that he has done anything wrong and back him up no matter what-that Elizabeth on the View drives me crazy-she does not have a clue about much in life and supports Bush about everything. Bush did not even get the message when voters got rid of his Republican buddies in the legislature so that now the Democrats are in the majority. I hope they can get something done, for the sake of the country. I was at a conference in Washington D.C. from1/3-1/6, and there seemed t obe alot of positive energy in the city. With this troop escalation, it is clear that he is not a man of his word-he is not really working with Congress,his words are just good sound bites.His way of working with Congress is to do what ever he wants and veto anything worthwhile that the Democratic run legislature passes. It is scary-I am afraid tosee what he and his Cabinet do next. I also really wish somebody would teach him how to pronounce "nuclear". And what is this about Condie Rice saying that an increase in troops is not an "escalation"?Huh? They believe their own sound bites or should invest in a good dictionary and thesaurus-it is really frightening!

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Instead of going after the person who was responsible for 9 -11 Bush starts his own private little war with Sadam, who had nothing to do with 9-11, lying to us all about WMD.

While our brave men and women were dying in Iraq, Iran and North Korea were building WMD ! AND, they are not afraid to use them !

Because of Bush Iraq Insurgency has grown, and will keep growing because now Iran is behind them, we need to get out before thousands more of our troops are killed.

So, why haven't we Impeached Bush yet ????

I wanted to watch it but missed it.I heard the previews about him going to send more troops but thats all I know of.I personally think the only thing this war is accomplishing is building up our reputation as a country that won't take crap from anyone.I personally think we should leave them alone despite of the fact they like to torture and chop off heads,etc. Yeah, they are violent,crazy people.But weren't we all at one time? We use to be just as crazy and nasty a loong time ago and we did not become civilized overnight.It takes time.And if someone were to come into our backyards way back then and tried to force us to change our ways we would have probably been just as stubborn as they are.I think this war will slow down their social development more than improve it.

I think we need to all hug. I'll start it. (( )) I think everyone needs to be praying for our country right now, and hope that Bush makes the right decisions since he has another 2 years in office and get out and vote and make your voice heard in the next election. We can choose what direction this country goes.

I'm just thankful I was born here in America and not sitting in Iraq in a tent right now,sick,hungry, biting my fingernails wondering if someone is waiting outside to chop my head off to play soccer with it.

I certainly don't see the democrats with a plan. DO YOU? All they wanted was to get into power. Well, they've got it now and they're starting to remind me of a dog chasing a car. What would he do if he ever caught it!! Well, now they have it (the power) and absolutely don't know what to do with it. And I think you'll see it even more as the days and months go on.

You actually think a Democrat in the White House will make things better? Not! Have you seen another 9-11 since then here on American soil? No, you haven't. You know why? Because the insurgents have their hands full fighting our troops overseas! There is so much going on that we don't see. Everything can't be disclosed to public.

I don't like war either but in order for the United States to continue being a free country, sometimes war has to happen. There is no draft and there won't be a draft. Do you actually think they want to put boys out there who know absolutely nothing about weapons and warfare? I don't think so. This isn't the 60's and 70's when we were in Vietnam. Things have changed a lot in the way of warfare since then. Experienced men and women are needed in combat -- not an 18-year old off the street.

Do you who actually hate President Bush think a democrat in office will change anything? What? Bring the troops home and then what? What will happen then? You think this will all just go away? This war was started because of 9-11. President Bush hadn't even been in office a year. This man has had his hands full from the very beginning. I think he is due a lot of respect. He is our President and has seen us thru a lot.

As far as Clinton goes, what a joke! And to think his wife has hopes of becoming President, that's really scary!

The Democrats are already showing thieir favortism -- raising the minimum wage EXCEPT in the town of where Ms. Pelosi lives because of the tuna companies (she says they can't AFFORD to raise the wages). Hmmm. isn't that what most businesses say? What makes her district exempt?

Better think twice if you think the democrats will do any better. They're politicans. They'll promise you the moon just to get into office. They'll promise to bring our troops home but yet forget to tell you what will happen after that. It won't go away, you know.

What does 9-11 have to do with the war ?