I have thought all along that the reason ANS did not want to have the paternity test done was because NEITHER of the two guys in the running, Stern and Birkhead, are the father. Now Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband is saying he had an affair with ANS and may be the father. What a horrible mess. This is a real life soap opera.

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Of course this story is all the buzz on other boards...so, in reading those an interesting (if sick and twisted theory) has been posed:

The baby's daddy was actually Daniel (Anna's son). I am not quoting this as fact, but as something read somewhere else. That would also explain her hesitance to submit to DNA testing.

And if there was no foul play involved w/ Daniel's death, that could also explain a possible motive for a suicide on his part. And of course Howard K. Stern would know since he's been her confidant for so long.

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Oh my gosh. I'm speechless. It is a definate that neither of the two men are the biological fathers? Who came up with the preposterous theory that her son might be the father? This is stranger than anything that could have been made up.


Just curious, did AnnaNicole end up winning the court case in which the billionaire's money/inheritance was contested by billionaire's son? Also, what about Howard K Stern? Does he have legal rights to all that money now?

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Boy the theories are flying lol! Has anyone at all stopped to think that maybe Howard didn't care that he may not be the "father"? Or that the exbf may just be after the money the baby is going to inherit--Anna was rich even without her rich late hubby.

This is such a sad situation and my heart goes out to her friends and family. You know--the ones that actually CARE she's gone.

This sounds like an episode of CSI.....

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I don't believe she was rich without the money from her late husband. She declared bankruptcy shortly before the Supreme Court found in her favor to give her another chance in court to get the money.

Oh, I'm sure Howard knew and didn't care that he was not the father. But, the issue is IF the father of the child wants to assume the role of parent, he should have the opportunity.

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From what I heard, she had recently gotten the go ahead to battle with the dead son's estate. That would be the dead son of the dead geezerly millionaire guy. Now, it will be the estate of ANS battling the estate of the dead 65yo son, and if ANS's estate wins, then DannieLynn gets it, not to mention the money/royalties from ANS's own estate.

Someone told me today they saw Donald Trump on some show, and he flat out said that Howard K. Stern killed her. That may or may not be true, but, where exactly does he get off saying something like that??? Isn't he suing Rosie O for basically the same stuff......stating things about him that are not true. He makes me sick, but, that's a whole different thread

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What a mess this will be poor baby will be fought for because of all the money she will be worth this baby who probably dont even crawl yet is worth millions very sad for the baby she will have all the money she ever needs but that wont buy her a mommy back

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Kind of like Christina Onassis' daughter Athena...

In fact Anna Nicole's lifestyle was more like Christina Onassis than Marilyn Monroe(in my opinion)

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[quote=allinaugust]From what I heard, she had recently gotten the go ahead to battle with the dead son's estate. That would be the dead son of the dead geezerly millionaire guy. Now, it will be the estate of ANS battling the estate of the dead 65yo son, and if ANS's estate wins, then DannieLynn gets it, not to mention the money/royalties from ANS's own estate.


Yes, but exactly who is included in Anna Nicole's estate? Of course the baby girl, but also Howard K Stern who obviously had dollar signs in his eyes? It was so questionable whether ANS was entitled to the billionaires estate, but now this slimeball might get his hands on it? That doesn't seem right.

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Whoa! I hadn't even thought of this.

I guess it remains to be seen how many other potential "fathers" come out of the woodwork now that millions are at stake.

I can't imagine her estate is worth that much. The settlement from her deceased husband is still tied up in court. She was working at a strip club in Texas when they met, so she clearly had little at that time. She had the TrimSpa deal, but I don't see handling money as a strong suit of hers, so any money from that deal was probably spent or stolen by people around her.

I would find it hard to believe she had a will. If she does, and HKS is the beneficiary of her estate, there will be an uproar trying to prove that she was of sound mind and body when she signed it and wasn't just completely maniuplated by HKS. She hasn't been of sound mind in years.

The key here is who is the father of the baby? If this were an HBO series the season would end right here.

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Too true. But we wll still have to wait until next "season" to find out anything. This will take months, if not years, to settle.

Did you read that the other man wants Anna DNA tested also to prove there wasn't a baby swaping? This was on MSN.

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Before this Zsa Zsa husband came crawling out of the closet today, I was just thinking to myself...What if neither of these two guys are the father of the baby? Yikes... I've always wondered where her mother was, then saw her today being interviewed. I hear she's down in the Bahamas trying to get her grandaughter...then later saw an interview with ANS showing how much she detested her mother. So the last thing she would want would be her mother to get the baby. The whole thing really is stranger than fiction! ~Lisa

The person I feel the most for is this poor child!

I can't understand how any woman, rich or poor, would keep the father's idenity a secret from not only the child, but the father also. That chidl should be with the father now not 5 weeks from now when the courts get around to deciding who the actual father is!

Just read this on the internet:

"The New York Daily News reports on a manuscript in which Smith's half-sister, Donna Hogan, reportedly alleges Smith froze Marshall's sperm and may have used it to get pregnant."

WOW--that would be something, wouldn't it????? This baby is named Dannielynn Hope Marshall (the name Stern was added later)! Granted, I guess that is her legal last name but........still makes you wonder. I guess if it's true, that adds yet another possibility for the baby's father!

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Yet another possibility surfaces! Hmmm, if it were Millionaire Marshall's child, this would ensure that ANS got the money (unfortunately she is no longer). Still, since she was married to Stern, is he going to get all this money?

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How can they do Paternity tests on the Maury Povich(sp?) and get the results back so quickly, but NOONE knows what to do here. OMG swab the baby's cheek, swab the dad's and call it a day for that issue anyhow. Or will it be " I'm on the 24th guy....who is my baby's father?" My god someone has to know the truth. Maybe it's the dead bazillionaire's baby--they had actually frozen his sperm for later use? Now they will have to exume his body and test him.

The plot thickens. Da-da-da.

But don't you think if old deceased hubby were the father she would have said so and put a big wrench in the court battle for his money?

And I am not sure it has been proven she is married to Stern, has it? I know they had some type of "committment ceremony" but are they actually married.

This story is just incredible, I can't get my mind around it.

God love this girl, she went out in a blaze of glory.

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They reported last night on Enternainment Tonight that ANS and HKS were planning a wedding for February 23rd in the Bahamas, I think.

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Yep...I don't think they were LEGALLY married it was as another post said...they had a commitment ceremony---nothing legally binding.

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I also heard reported on TV, MSN I believe, that Anna Nicole may have been in Florida for plastic surgery and that she was running a fever when she died. The presciption drugs found in the room are commonly prescribed after plastic surgery. Could be a plastic surgery gone really bad or a post surgical infection, although they should have known that by the autopsy. This should be really interesting. Also, there was some speculation about how first her son died mysteriously and now she had died mysteriously as well. That baby is now the only living heir. I think it would be really interesting to find out she had gotten pregnant from the dead guys sperm. This is WAY BETTER than any soap opera because this is real life.

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LOL, yeah but if some writer had come up with this plot for a Soap Opera is would have been discarded as being TOO UNREALISTIC!!! For a soap opera even, lol.

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How about a Scobey-doo ending for this drama????? Howard K. goes on Larry King and peals off that ugly mask of a face he's got and he's actually the old dead guy--who is really the father of the baby.......ta da!

too funny!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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SSSSSSHHHHHHHH! Everyone here is sleeping and I think I just woke them all up after reading your post! BBBAAWWWHHHHHAAAAAA! Too funny! As my SIL's mother says "Mother of God!"...It just gets stranger by the day...I was thinking about ANS's 105 degree fever...her "friend" said that they tried to bring it down by giving her an ice water bath...For the love of God...With friends like that, you don't need enemies!...I would have wanted my friend to get me to the ER fast! Yikes! Some creepy people she was hanging with... ~Lisa

It just gets stranger by the day...I was thinking about ANS's 105 degree fever...her "friend" said that they tried to bring it down by giving her an ice water bath...For the love of God...With friends like that, you don't need enemies!...I would have wanted my friend to get me to the ER fast! Yikes! Some creepy people she was hanging with... ~Lisa
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She was not the sharpest tool in the shed.I'm not trying to be mean but it true.Her friends probably have about the same IQ as she did.So their ways of careing for the sick are not shocking.The lawyer and "hubby" is the one who i find to be a peculiar bird.He looks and sounds like a sneaky snake to me.And how come her death is inconclusive like her sons ? Hmmmmm...sounds like some backdoor handywork.

Ya now HKS is saying he will do everything in his power to keep the grandma away from the baby umm to me thats so strange he is acting like that if everything was okey dokey wouldnt he want to coporate with the authorites & family of ANS & the baby ?? It kinda reminds me of that show drowing mona "the bodies are starting to pile up" wonder what HKS next move will be wish he would drop out of the race.

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Although they didn't have an official marriage/wedding ceremony, HKS would still be the legal guardian because his name is on the birth certificate.

Call me crazy, but I still like HKS. I used to watch the Anna Nicole Show on E (the biggest GUILTY pleasure I ever will admit to - LOL). With all due respect to ANS, she was incredibly verbally abusive to HKS, and made what seemed like extremely irrational demands of HKS, which he always put up with. If she didn't like the way someone looked, it was HKS who had to go and deliver the news to the offending party. She had amazing power over him, it seemed to me. And all through those years when she was usually on the verge of bankrupsy, and had relationships/hookups with all these men, he stood by.

I think anyone who could put up with Anna and her self-centeredness 24/7 for all these years was probably very much in love with her. And HKS is no Johnny-come-lately: he actually has been representing her (and, it looks like his career had become ONLY about her) for the last 12 years.

She seemed to me to have been a very sad soul, and at least now she as at peace.

I just freaked out reading these posts. I have been telling hubby I bet the baby was actually Daniels as well. He thinks I am nuts. Glad to see there are some other nuts like me around here. LOL It is just a sad situation for that baby girl.

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Family Law Attorney: Anna's 1st Husband Could Sue

[6:31pm] TMZ spoke to a prominent family law attorney who says now that Anna Nicole has died, it's technically possible for Billy Smith, the father of Anna Nicole's late son Daniel, to sue Anna's estate for wrongful death.

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It would not matter if HKS name is on the birth certificate or not-only his DNA could make him a potential guardian. I could put Trump on my kid's birth certificate- that does not mean Donald is going to raise the kid.

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There is a lot of drama now and I am sure more will come out of all this.

Well now there are photos on the front page of a Bahama newspaper....

Also, the guy that owns the house in the Bahamas - Ben Thompson - went down and the the locks changed right after her death. Then Stern gets down there and has them changed again so he can get in and keep Thompson out. My question is HOW could Stern authorize the locks being changed when he doesn't own the place? That whole thing is still in litigation with a hearing on the 23rd, which I believe is also the same day that the baby is supposed to be submitted for DNA testing.

I honestly do not think that Stern is the father. If he were, it would seem that they would have rushed to get the DNA testing done and not fight it every step of the way. The just SCREAMS something to hide. I certainly would hope that what they are hiding is not the Daniel/Mom thing.

I do find it very suspect that Stern is the key person in both Daniel and ANS deaths. He is the common denominator and 2 deaths in such a short period of time with him present seems to be more than just a coincidence.

Can you imagine if none of the DNA from the guys claiming to be daddy match? I hate to see how many guys will climb out of the wood work to be tested.

Either way, I feel bad for that baby. If she comes out even half way normal it will be a miracle. Her mother has left her with a heck of a legacy. You also would have to hope that she never ever gets access to the internet and googles her own name. The best thing that could happen to her is to be sent out to live with a 'normal' family, have her name changed, and give her a shot at a normal life.

:-(

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Umm - right - that's the reason there is such pandemonium right now, as about 12 wackos have come out from under their respective rocks to lay claim to this poor child.

However, as long as HKS has his name on the birth certificate, they have to assume he is the father until it is proven otherwise w/DNA testing...


I'm still in HKS's corner - he seems to be the only one trying to honor what Anna Nicole would have wanted, which is to keep the baby away from ANS's "birthmother" and to dodge all the DNA test requests and be the dad. I think he was a wet noodle for ANS, who was a demanding lady, to say the least. In the end, he probably is NOT the biological father, but part of me wants him to end up with the baby, anyways, since ANS seemed to WISH him to be the father. I do think he's actually a good guy.

Larry B also seems like an upstanding sort of guy, himself. He was pushing for the testing WAY before it looked like Dannylynn could be the golden ticket...

All the other men who claim to have had affairs w/ANS, are only making themselves known now that so much $$ is potentially at stake. They should just crawl back under their rocks.

Of course, Just my personal opinion...

Since I am a huge fan of Anna Nicole I have to say that I have never liked/trusted Howard.
He had a lot of infulence over a very impressionable girl.
I bet you a dollar that he had convinced/told her NOT to get the test done.
I am hoping that he is not the father and that this all gets straghtened out and that Anna can just rest in peace.
(Howard always reminded me of Don King and his relationship with Mike Tyson.)

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Well, there is now another guy claiming he may be the daddy...


http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2007/02/alex_denk.html

I am sorry and I hate to speak ill of the dead, but that woman, (may she rest in peace) was a total SKEEZE! That poor baby doesn't deserve any of this that her 'mother' has left her with.

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there's more men claiming to be the father of that baby than people running for the next presidential race LOL Did you see all these guys racing to be DADDY before AN died? Nope...now that there is possibly something in it for them, they will. I just feel for the baby

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My money is on Marshall. I think that Anna and Stern plotted to get his money and when Marshall's son died this just sealed the deal. I can see her being so emotionally invested in getting the money that she would do something like that to insure it. The sad thing is that this child is probably just a by product of her and HKS's greed. I did like HKS when I watched the ANS show.. yes, I admit it. To me it was like a bug zapper to a bug... I just couldn't look away when it was on. I actually felt sorry for him at times...

Yet another guy has crawled out of the woodwork claiming he may be the daddy.


Ughhhhh, will it ever end?

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saw the baby in tv last night, and have to say I think she looks like the Birkhead character

If H K Stern was really the father then why didn't he get the paternity test taken right away??

I would have thought he would have done it as soon as Birkhead showed up.
It makes me think he knows he is NOT the dad!

H. K. Stern is a lawyer, therefore if he KNEW for sure that he was the father, I would think he would have taken steps to make things a bit more solid legally. Just listing him on the birth certificate outside the U.S. and not being legally married to ANS is fishy, IMHO. Whoever Dad turns out to be, I hope he sincerely cares for the baby and will make her feel loved. Larry B. has been screaming he's the Dad since shortly after she was born and my gut tells me he truly wants to do the right thing. We'll see...