Sorry so long ..I have to get this off my chest..Hope it is readable..lol.


I am so mad right now.. My dh has worked so hard at his job .... He over looked other jobs offers to work for this company, even knowing he could make more money somewhere else....He stilled decided to take the job, he was going to use it as a stepping stone...His main goal was to get a senior slot with the company.The pay would be better then and it would be worth it..

The person in charge has told him before to get his CCNA and with his years of experience he can justify putting him in a senior slot ...Other people at work were told the same.. They had senior slots come avaiable, people were placed in senior slots anyways.

The company was in poistion were they could give % increase .... We know what they get per slot( they can afford to pay senior pay) .Before people were told about this. My dh got his CCNA and was told ...Good it makes it better now... for what you don't know...we are doing for you...The other boss inform the other workers what their increase was except for Dh..He was overlook and he shredded the paper so he didn't know what Dh pay raise would be. He was told you can figure it up when you get paid..I guess he didn't want to ask the ceo!

Well every body else receive their raise and dh raise was late...So we're thinking O he got his CCNA you must be getting more money and that is the reason it is taking so long because they had to refigure the %..Well people do talk we found out 2 that just got a senior postion they were getting a 5% increase but with no ccna..so we're still thinking it has to be more than 5 %..Right? Wrong! By the way this company seems to give no more than 5 % for yearly pay raise

Everyone was under the exact same impression as my dh the pay would increase to atleast $10,000 more a year..They were shocked when they receive their raise..Get this some of them were not even aware they were placed in a senior position My dh found this out threw the other boss...

Well guees what..It's payday my dh is so insulted by his raise..It was only 5%. I'm sitting here thinking why in the heck waste your money getting certifications if it's not going to benifit you with this company.Why do your best and decate yourself to a job if they are going to treat everyone the same? Why do more than your job postion if your not going to be recoginize for?


Just for your info--we spent the last 3 years for dh to get this certificate.Updating books and taking classes in order for him to get this..We're talking appr $1,000 of our money & the company paid for a class appr $2,000 ...people at work was shock that he was failing it..They know he knows his stuff.. This is not a easy test ..alot of people fail it serval times before passing it.... My dh has never been able to test that great..but his job performance has always spoken for him self.. He was put in for Step when he was in the mliltary after his supervisor knowing him for less than 3 months saw that he shined above his peers & gave it his all !! That says alot about my dh.

It appears with his raise being late.I would assume there was some talk about increasing the % amount. Did they plan on giving him less than 5 %? That's not a slap in the face thats a huge punch in the face!I feel so stupid pushing dh to get his CCNP next ..With this company it won't carry any weight

A meeting will be held next week to to talk about it with the Ceo... My dh is so mad,devasted & etc. His other boss told him ...you may want to get another job offer that way the company would match it instead of losing you to another company...They have done this before with other workers! Both my dh & I think that is totally wrong for a company to do. They should pay what your worth ..You should not have to resort to those messures..My dh has alot of pride........ If he did that move, I highly doubt he'll pass up the other offer..giving the circumstances now

This move of theirs ..they may have lost the most dedicated person they could ever find..Yes I very proud of my dh..He doesn't sit there and be told what to do ..He always went well beyond his duty..He did that in the miltiary and he stills does that at his current job.It is not in him to give less!

My Dh has never been afraid to make dramstic moves ..He almost threw his retirement check out the door being 3 months short of retiring( long story.)He is all about morals and his is a very proud man. Having to restort to those messures.... the company risk losing him.. I can't believe they did this..We have so much to talk about this weekend and what he is going to do

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Mine has never had to pay for anything to get certified but I'm not sure he's ever gotten a 5% raise before either lol (he's gotten HUGE raises by changing jobs though!)

I'd say it sounds like it's time to move on, though he DID get a raise even if it wasn't what you were expecting. Mine is supposed to get a raise this month, was discussed back in September or so that they were going to send him for training and he'd get a raise about 20k more than he makes now, but he didn't want to leave me 8 months pregnant... and he couldn't get the $$ raise until he'd been an actual employee for a year... which is today. So we don't know what to expect, whether it'll be that nice raise or just a couple percent. They do keep piling more things on him though.

Dh came home from work and we have talk alittle about what has happen.. We'll have to wait and see what happenes next week...I think the 5 % raise was crossed the board for everyone regardless of their postion...

I would never expect him to be paid more for being certified.It just helps when your looking for a job. I feel like he got short changed ..it's like they gave him the job title only.... Forget the pay here's your title.....When he took this job the other offers was roughly $10,000 more than this company ...Alot of people have left this company because the pay is so low..They lose alot of experience people because of this..I heard they work for maybe 6 months to a year and leave because the pay is better elsewhere. Alot of people use this job for a stepping stone only..

He took this job because all the learning opportunties it could bring him and we still would live close to my family.Now we are just regretting it..This was one thing we both was looking forward too..Him getting a senior slot.

We'll be polishing up his resume this weekend and depending on the outcome of next week rather or not he'll be looking for another job..Why stay with a company when you can make that much more..He is still giving them chance to increase his salary more... If I had my way he would start looking for a job monday morning. lol...He still doesn't want to leave but has made the comment If they don't pay me what I think this postion is worth then I need to look for another job

Right now I just pray everything will work out for the best..I'm under alot of stress and this just added to our problems...

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5%? and you're upset? How would you like to get 40 cents a year no matter what courses you take, or what amount of work you do, or how much blood sweat and tears you put into doing your job?
Most major companies only give 3% across the board. It would be a bonus to get 5%- believe me!

I also have worked hard to get certified and now registered through the state this past year and I just got a 1% pay increase......I would LOVE a 5% raise!!!

Kathie

I can understand your frustration for your husband, it does sound like he was kind of strung along there w/ the whole deal. He really does need to go plead his case, but needs to be prepared in case perhaps he is more disposable than he thinks. That being said, I do think that a 5% raise is pretty generous-DH has gotten a couple of big jumps, but usually it's around 3%-we joke and call it "Pizza Money" , cuz by the time taxes are taken out and it's distributed between all the paydays, it's about enough to buy a pizza-lol...There was one year the company was having troubles. They gathered all of the employees and told them, the good news is that no one will be laid off, but the bad news is no one will be receiving raises. We understood and although the extra $$ would have been nice, we were just thankful that DH had his job. Hope you and your husband can figure out what's right for him.

Be lucky there was a raise.... We get 3% a year... and last year it wasnt even that.. It was 2.97

Every year my dh has received a 5% raise. but being placed in a new postion we expected more..The other people were expecting a 10,000 increase in salary too. We're not the only ones who are upset about it. If this was just a reg raise we would of been happy

Of course they can replaced my dh. They hire people all the the time. I just don't like fact that it seems in order for you to get a good increase in salary you have to get another offer somewhere else and have them decide if they want to match it.

I'm more upset with it then my dh is..After the first year I have encourage him to go work for another company. He has wanted to stick it out with this company because of the new things they are doing.. He loves this job. But now he is upset and he'll be looking for better opportunties.

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Can he look for another job my dh worked at the same place for 10yrs & they wouldnt move him up & he had his degree he got while working thier & got all A's & everything the problem was thier was guys who had been thier 30yrs with way more seniority. So dh looked for another job got it & now makes twice as much as he did at the old job & its way closer to our house so he's using alot let gas heck in the summer he could bike to work & really save money. He talks like he misses the old place but after 10yrs of being thier I am not suprised but hes getting used to his new job & the people now after 6months. I guess you just have to let the place know you can move on & will if you have too.

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Nurses and teachers (and other professions) have had to pay for their extended education for years and then they get the standard incremental raise.

Employers will do what they have to do in order to get something for nothing from their employees... It might not be much different anywhere else, unfortunately.

I hope that if he feels that this place of employment is just not going to work out for him that he really can find something better somewhere else... Job hunting is no fun either but if he has had offers with other companies, maybe it's time to give them a call.

Here's hoping it works out for him so that you are both satisfied.

My hubby's a supervisor and is usually only allowed to give 1 to 2% raises. The most ANYONE ever gets is 3%.

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Amy
Mom to Lauren, Eryn, Naysa
and announcing......
Gavin Michael Chase, 9 lbs 10 ozs
and 21 3/4 inches long on 10/13/09!

Yes, 3% is the standard raise that I am able to give out as well. That's for employees that are performing their job well. Some get nothing and some get more if they are doing an outstanding job. I think 5% is a nice raise, but I'm sure that you feel disappointed having counted on more. Most companies can't give out many $10k+ increases........

If he is happy with the work and the people there, that is a huge plus in my opinion. Money is typically not the #1motivator in job satisfaction

cj/

5% yearly is extremely good. Especially if it's year after year, the % continues to build. So many get, as others stated, only 1 -3% if any. The military rarely gets a cola of more than 3%.

The workplace has changed. Generally, longevity and responsibility are no longer necessarily things to be rewarded. For every person leaving a job, there are others lined up to fill it. Sometimes the company, supervisor, or the employee grow in different directions and that could be what is happening to op's husband.

My DH has worked for a major airline for almost 19 years, and in the past couple years has actually had about 15% taken away from his salary. I know this has no bearing on your husband, but just let me say, it could be worse!

I would suggest that if he feels jerked around now, and from what you say about others feeling the same way and leaving after short periods of time with this company, that it is time for him to start looking for other opportunities. He probably should NOT let his company know that he is looking though. It is always easier to get a new job while employed--if you are unemployed you will look less desirable and desperate and may not receive the compensation you are actually worth. I know that often if you are an exemplary employee, the company sometimes gets to a point where they no longer appreciate this fact, they just start taking it for granted. Sounds like this company might be guilty of that. I hope your DH will find a position that gives him the respect and compensation he deserves and has worked for.

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