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Old 03-02-2007, 04:30 PM
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{Puts on flame retardant suit} Are ALL children beautiful??

My neighbor just brought over her six week old. " Isn't he the cutest thing you have EVER seen??" She giggled.





Uh. No. He actually looks like Alfred E. Newman. I didn't SAY that, but I thought it.

My biggest fear when I was pregnant was that my kids were going to be FUGLY and no one would tell me the truth. I know as moms, we all see our children as physically beautiful. I made my aunt PROMISE to tell me the truth, no matter what.

When my son was born, she said " Cici, he really is BEAUTIFUL." And I agreed. But I just looked at his hospital discharge photo, and he actually looked like a brown rat with an afro.

So, do you think ALL children are beautiful? I am talking physical, completely idealistic beautiful, not inside.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:35 PM
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I don't but what I don't understand is a mother thinks her child is beautiful but we don't see it. I mean really they think their child is so pretty/cute but I really don't think so.
I myself think my daughter is the prettiest little girl I have ever seen. But I know other people don't think that. I truly do believe that she is the prettiest little thing.

My sister in law is always telling everyone how pretty her girls are and I think they look like monkeys. I guess as mothers we just don't see it.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:35 PM
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Nope. Sorry but my cousin's kids aren't cute. Actually now that I think about it, it's the same with my nieces. My SIL thinks they are the cutest things ever. Sorry, but they are kind of goofy looking.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:36 PM
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I should probably change my name on this board. Don't ya think?
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:39 PM
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:26 PM
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Ok as cruel as it may sound the monkey thing was pretty funny.

I don't think all children are beautiful. I see some kids and I often thing "those poor kids" I mean I know that is soooo wrong for me to think that way but I remember my aunts talking about how gorgeous my other cousin was growing up and I was like ok, WTF EVER!!! Her nose looks like a ski slope!! This wasn't my cousin's mother this was my cousin's aunt also that made these comments in front of me. The thing is when we would go out, not to brag but nobody liked her! She would get completely mad if I guy took interest in me over her. Every time that she said something about a guy she liked and then they met me, they wanted to go out with me.

I guess I always wondered why I never got any compliments from my aunt growing up. It doesn't bother me but I just always was curious KWIM??

Anyways, I think I have pretty cute kids but others may disagree. I always have people telling me how cute my kids are but it makes me feel wierd when they brag on them because I am not a bragging person.
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:30 PM
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Happy maybe they just felt sorry for her. You are most likely right she wasn't that cute and they knew that.

Ok I need help what the heck does KWIM mean?
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:34 PM
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:37 PM
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:49 PM
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Ok as cruel as it may sound the monkey thing was pretty funny.

I don't think all children are beautiful. I see some kids and I often thing "those poor kids" I mean I know that is soooo wrong for me to think that way but I remember my aunts talking about how gorgeous my other cousin was growing up and I was like ok, WTF EVER!!! Her nose looks like a ski slope!! This wasn't my cousin's mother this was my cousin's aunt also that made these comments in front of me. The thing is when we would go out, not to brag but nobody liked her! She would get completely mad if I guy took interest in me over her. Every time that she said something about a guy she liked and then they met me, they wanted to go out with me.

I guess I always wondered why I never got any compliments from my aunt growing up. It doesn't bother me but I just always was curious KWIM??

Anyways, I think I have pretty cute kids but others may disagree. I always have people telling me how cute my kids are but it makes me feel wierd when they brag on them because I am not a bragging person.
I'll bet because you are pretty and the other little girl was not so they probably said it to build her confidence and maybe they felt like you did'nt need to hear you were pretty...just a thought

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Old 03-02-2007, 06:09 PM
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I pretty much agree with the others posted here. I think that my own kids are beautiful (people have told me I should sign my dd up for modeling, although I would NEVER do that).

But there are some kids/babies that are just not cute.


I know this.

But, it really upsets me when my MIL will say something like "emma was the prettiest girl out there" or something like that. Every child is cute to their own parents. KWIM

I don't want Emma growing up thinking that she is this little miss it. Thinking that beauty will get you farther in life. It also bugs me when she says stuff about fat and skinny. I actually had Emma come up to me the other day and ask me is she was skinning, I don't like that either....
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:02 PM
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I love babies and have only seen 2 really homely ones. They were both people from work and I had a hard time saying your baby is so cute. Lucky there were a lot of people around so they didn't notice.
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:28 PM
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No, I sure don't think that they are all pretty. Sad but true!
I always say "Oh, isn't she/he sweet" if the baby is not cute or pretty.

I knew an average looking couple that had 3 children. Those 3 children got the worst features from each of them and were homely children. I am sure they thought they were all beautiful.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:03 PM
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My kids really are good looking, at least thats what strangers tell me.

I have seen some kids that I just plain feel bad for. I had a friend whos kid looked like a chipmonk and one whos son looked like a pumpkin. My son looks like a cartoon turtle in his kindergarden pictures.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:09 PM
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Of course we would all like to think every child is beautiful, but they are not. I have seen some pretty ugly kids and babies, but i try to find something cute about them. Sometimes they are so ugly they are cute lol. I believe my children are beautiful, but everyone may not agree and that is ok, but i think and beleive they are to me.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:29 PM
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my neice looked like a jackolanter when she was a baby . lord what a UGLY child! sad to say, she didnt ourgrow it either.
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:51 PM
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Ok, send social services this way, but when the Dr. placed my #2 son on my chest after birth, I looked down, with much love, and said, "Wow, you are the ugliest thing I have ever seen." And he was, but definitely got way cuter over time. I have to chuckle. I have a friend who has the strongest moral fibers you will ever know. She cannot lie, and will not lie, but she is so cute she gets away w/ it every time. I have told her that there was no such thing as an ugly baby, and she begs to differ. Her response to a beaming mom w/ a newborn, is to say (in baby talk) Yes, that's a baby. Too funny....
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:26 PM
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I like to refer to these children as "unfortunate looking".
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:42 AM
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my neice looked like a jackolanter when she was a baby . lord what a UGLY child! sad to say, she didnt ourgrow it either.
LOL Wonder if your niece is related to one of my granddaughters -- from the moment she was born I said she looked like a deranged Jack-o-Lantern and 11 years later it's only gotten worse!! Her dad was quite the hunky lady's man in HS & college and he married a very attractive young lady but my son's round face just didn't mesh well with the pointed nose and wide mouth of the child's mother. Same son, second daughter w/new wife (who somewhat resembles wife #1) - about a year ago he came to pick her up after work, watched her nap for a few minutes, then walked into the living room saying "It's a good thing she's so smart 'cause she sure is ugly, isn't she?" This DGD IS smart, she's three and will be starting kindergarten at a private school in the fall. She is fluently tri-lingual in a single language family and is currently working with 1st grade curriculum materials at home. The principal said that it is possible (if her social skills are adequate) that they will move her up a grade mid semester -- Her mother, OTOH, de-emphasizes the intelligence and thinks her daughter is the most beautiful child ever born. We're talking pagent/model level in her eyes. She dresses DGD in cutesy outfits that makes the poor child look even more hideous -- I mean the only thing missing is a heavy case of mange & a tail!! Why my son's daughters keep getting the worst of the worst combos of their parent's features is beyond me.

My youngest grandson, though, has been drop dead gorgeous since birth. Eyes so shocking & sparkling blue that it looks like he's wearing tinted contacts, natural blonde slightly wavy hair, and born with an athlete's build that is just getting better with age. He IS athletic - his first seasons of participating he placed 5th in the state for Pee Wee freestyle wrestling (competing outside of his regular weight class because he had gained a few ounces over the limit), made Pop Warner All Stars and won the MVP award in his soccer league, not to mention that a local dance troupe instructor/choreographer begged his mother to let him join after seeing him "goofing off" in the wings after a friend's recital!!! Adding to his exterior appearance, DGS exudes an incredibly charming personality. Other children & grownups, alike, fall in love with this child from day one. Dumb as a box of rocks -- seemingly not a functional brain cell in his head -- but truly one of the "pretty people". He's 7 and recently came home from school with a fistful of dollars. We were mortified to learn that he was offered the money by girls two grades ahead of him to "be their boyfriend" for recess & lunch break because he's "so cute/sexy". My grandson - on his way to being a GIGOLO at age SEVEN and he doesn't even know what sexy means!?!?!?!?! Needless to say he returned the money and the girls got a lecture from the principal. This DGS has a twin sister -- she's attractive (not "beautiful"), confident and slightly above avg in intelligence (honor student) so hopefully there won't be any competitiveness/jealousy (none so far) since they already have demonstrated different talents/paths but I see a day coming when girls will probably want to be DGD's "friend" just to be near her brother and THAT may cause a problem.


BTW - NONE of these observations are made within earshot of ANY of my grandchildren, especially my oldest DGS who has x-ray hearing (professional eavesdropper, that one) and a wicked, occasionally evil sense of humor/desire to torment siblings & cousins.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:00 AM
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I think we all can relate stories of strangers telling us how cute our kids are, because no one would have the NERVE to say how ugly they were!


I think it's just instinct to unconditionally love our kids and think they are the most beautiful and to keep our mouth shut about the less fortunate.

Every year we get a Christmas card from one friend and we get the biggest laugh, those poor kids. There is a reason some families DON'T have girls and that is it. She might grow up to be a beautiful girl, but she has an uphill battle.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:10 AM
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All babies are not beautiful!! When my oldest was born he was this long skinny looking really white baby with reddish hair. My family is Greek!! We were all expecting a beautiful bundle of olive skin and black hair, yet received Ronald McDonald's kid! Of course DH's family thought he was as cute as could be because he looked like them.

One good thing about the south (where most of my relatives are) is that you know straight up if they think your kid is ugly. If they peer down at your new bundle of joy and utter the phrase, "Oh bless his heart"....your kid is fugly!
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If they peer down at your new bundle of joy and utter the phrase, "Oh bless his heart"....your kid is fugly!
LOL That is so funny but so true.....My neohew looked like a turtle for the first year of his life...even now I think he's cute because I love him so, but I know his head is weird shaped!! I think my kids are good looking, I think The boys, Their father and I are all not UNATTRACTIVE people...

My youngest has the cutest freckles, bright blue eyes and dark hair....My oldest has bright blue eyes brown hair, no freckles....gnarly teeth though.... He had them fixed though and now has a beautiful smile!! They are also GOOD boys and well behaved so that makes them even more attractive...LOL
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:00 PM
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My son looked like ET when he was born... that wrinkled forehead and skinny neck... he outgrew it of course but still... lol

We call him Ginger Kid (from South Park - I saw that episode with my sis-in-law and my son was sleeping in the same room and we just kept looking at each other and at him and laughing). My sister has been wanting us to dress him as Chucky and my daughter could be Bride of Chucky.
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:28 PM
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I like to refer to these children as "unfortunate looking".

LOL I love this! I spit diet coke all over my desk but it sounds so much better.

Ladies dont forget.... if you are located in the south, you can say someones baby is ugly if you bless its heart right afterward.

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Did you see Susie's Baby? That baby fell out of the ugly tree and hit every single branch, bless its heart.



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Old 03-03-2007, 01:39 PM
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my son ,for the first 10 months of his life looked like "uncle fester" or a buddha!!!
poor kids,he had no hair and no teeth ,but his ears kept growing....bless his heart!!!(I am in the south!!!!)
he is 10 years old,and look a lot better now(his head grew,and his ears stopped growing)...

let's face it,not everybody is good looking....
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I agree that babies are really ugly even my own were!! It took months before my children were close to even being cute. My first one was long and skinny with hair that only went up straingt, like a troll doll. Then my second one was born with all this dark brown hair that fell out when she was about 4 months old, but it only fell out in a ring around her head making her look like a monk. Then my son was born with this really big head and these ears that stick out. I love those ears now but it took a while to do that.
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My middle daughter came to me when she was 2 weeks old as a foster baby. She had dead white skin that looked paper thin, big bulging blue eyes, and white hair that was about an inch long and stood straight up! I would walk in the mall with her in the stroller. People would stop me and walk up to the stroller saying "oh a baby...." then stop dead in their tracks. They would usually stammer something like "Oh she is um, so sweet."... LOL Well by 6 months she grew into her eyes, got some color in her skin and her platinum blond hair started looking like hair and she was absolutely adorable! She still is!
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Old 03-03-2007, 02:51 PM
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I received a holiday photo card from an old college friend with his new baby - yikes! i couldn't believe that was the cutest picture they had of the baby. I display all my holiday cards but I'll admit - that one didn't make it up for some reason.
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My neighbor just brought over her six week old. " Isn't he the cutest thing you have EVER seen??" She giggled.





Uh. No. He actually looks like Alfred E. Newman. I didn't SAY that, but I thought it.

My biggest fear when I was pregnant was that my kids were going to be FUGLY and no one would tell me the truth. I know as moms, we all see our children as physically beautiful. I made my aunt PROMISE to tell me the truth, no matter what.

When my son was born, she said " Cici, he really is BEAUTIFUL." And I agreed. But I just looked at his hospital discharge photo, and he actually looked like a brown rat with an afro.

So, do you think ALL children are beautiful? I am talking physical, completely idealistic beautiful, not inside.

My mom always said you are pretty/beautiful to someone. I don't think any kids are as beautiful as my own!

When I gave birth to Naysa, I thought she had the UGLIEST feet and quite honestly, that she was not the prettiest baby I've ever given birth to. She was way more wrinkled than the other two and looked like a little old man. Of course, she's outgrown that and she's beautiful! LOL
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:14 PM
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I think every parent thinks their own children are beautiful---no one wants to think they've produced an ugly child Also, I think a lot of times people tell other people that their children are beautiful/cute/handsome just to be nice. I was at the store the other day and a woman told me my 3 year old is beautiful (and of course I think she is ) but then I heard her again on another aisle over telling another parent the same thing.

One thing that I have noticed is that some of the *quirkiest* (this does not mean ugly) looking children grow up to be the best looking adults and the kids that were really cute as kids don't always look great as adults because that little kid cuteness looks annoying on an adult. This is all my superficial opinion!!! Anyway, having typed all that I have rarely seen an ugly child....yeah, I'm one of those that thinks all kids are beautiful.
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ON the other hand I think there is a stage in grade school that many kids go thru that even those beautiful little ones lose it!!

They go thru a year or two of that "bless his heart" stage.

Then they grow past that and are cute or beautiful again!

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I love babies and have only seen 2 really homely ones. They were both people from work and I had a hard time saying your baby is so cute. Lucky there were a lot of people around so they didn't notice.

I have a remedy for this.......instead of saying "oh how cute" if they aren't. Just say. "oh, how precious" Because no matter how homely a child is, they are ALWAYS precious.

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Most newborns are NOT cute. All people go through awkward stages. My son was very cute. Maybe I'm prejudice, but his pictures say so too. I have seen some ugly ones!!!
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Okay I think my granddaughters are beautiful.......... Am I just predjudice?
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NO a resounding NO! Not all children are beautiful and when they act ugly it makes them ugly or even uglier than they were before.

I hate to sound corny but when someone is beautiful on this inside it makes them more beautiful on the outside and when they are ugly on the inside well to most people they are ugly on the outside too.
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Ok I still don't think we have an answer as to why we think our kids are better looking than other children. I think we are used to their faces we have grown to love the person they are and see their inner beauty. My daughter is a cute she looks like Shirley Temple. She has curly hair, pink cheeks, always smiling. BUT she has tiney little warts on her mouth they look like little bumps. They are smaller than the ones kids get on their hands. She got them on her mouth because she bites her nails and they were on her hands. Now I never ever notice them but I will tell you what all the girls in her class notice. Even the teacher on the first day took me aside and asked what that was on her face. But I don't notice the flaws I notice that wonderful person on the inside. I guess the saying is true Love is Blind and I think with our kids it is.

BTW we do go to the dermatologist once a month to try to get rid of these stupid warts. I never thought I would do so many drastic things for a virus that will go away. But it does affect her so I have to pay big money to try to make her look and feel better about herself.
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Old 03-04-2007, 02:10 PM
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Carrie - My son used to have those bumps on the insides of his arms and then they spread to his torso. He was very self-conscious of them. Our pedi was never able to do anything for them - tried freezing a few, said sometimes that sometimes kicks the body into getting rid of them. He had to take a full round of antibiotics for another infection (don't recall which kind) and they all went away after that. The dr. still said the antibiotics had nothing to do with it.....but I think they did!

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Old 03-04-2007, 03:45 PM
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NO, all kids are NOT beautiful. I too use the *precious* term or *sweet*

I loved the Seinfeld episode when Jerry's friends wanted everyone "to see the baby" and how cute and beautiful it was and although we never saw it, the show made the baby out to be a hideous beast. In my experience, the people with the most pictures who go on and on about their kids are the ones whose kids are the ugliest LOL

Jeff Foxworthy has a joke about it too and people with ugly kids shoving photos of them into your face. Cruel...but funny too.
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