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Old 03-08-2007, 06:22 PM
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Any Ladies having alot Hair Loss Issues?

Mine all started about 7 yrs ago its not like a 100 strands aday deal its much much more..

It has me very upset alot of days ..
I don't know how much longer I can go on like this. You wouldn't think I had any hair left since it's been 7 long yrs now.

I first blame it on reducing my Hormones But at times I don't know.

I have seen several family drs with no luck Men of course and they didn't care.

Seen a few Thryoid Lady drs with no luck all they could say was you either want HAIR or want BREAST CANCER take your pick since I take Premarin is way they said that.

Even seen a Dermatologist with no help he didn't care to even look at my hand full of hair he made me sit over 2 hrs just to have him come in the room and kept his back to me and left and never came back in the room . A waste of my time.

None of these Dr's have cared about my feelings on this issue.

I have tryed Hair, nails and skin vit. All it did was made my regrowth faster.

I do grow hair BUT i can't stop loosing hair to make up for the new hair coming in.
Its not breakage its full hair all over the head.

I don't know how a person can't be under stress over issue.

I can look back every yr to pictures of me and see the loss. I use to have thick course hair now it's so thin and just hangs.
Perms don't help because theres not enough hair to perm to give it the fullness.

My shedding comes out in clumps so bad like a dog its everywhere in the house pillows, floor, sweeper, furniture you name it ..
I have no bald spots so far that is.

I hate touching my hair anymore or washing my hair I spend the whole time taken it off my hands, body, shower walls or what ever.

The Hair just doesn't want to stay in the head very well ..

Sorry so long just needed to vent.

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Old 03-08-2007, 06:48 PM
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You might have alopecia, I had or have it, your hair falls out. Mine fell out in small circles, I called them crop circles, went also to a dermatologist and he gave me a steroid shot in my head! The hair did grow back. The dr said it was caused by stress because all the test didn't show anything.

My hair also fell out about 4 months after I gave birth that was really shocking.

Here is a website telling you about alopecia.

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Old 03-08-2007, 06:51 PM
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hi,
You might want to try Nioxin products. I'm a hairstylist and have seen some wonderful results from these products. It does take a few months of use to see a big difference. They are kind of pricey but you can get it in generic at a Sally's beauty supply. I'd recommend using the whole line of their products together for best results, including the shampoo, conditioner and treatment products. You can also buy it on ebay probably cheaper than you can in a salon.
Check out www.nioxin.com for more info
you can email me if you have any questions
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:10 PM
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Vitamin for hair growth = Folic Acid

Might help? I lost tons of hair three times... once after having two babies and again after losing a bunch of weight.

But it only lasted for a few months each time. NEVER had it last for 7 years.

I hope that you find a solution.
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:40 PM
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Hi Again

Thank you all for your inputs.

I do use Nioxin and it doesn't work for me.

I even used the booster and didnt see any help

Like i said i do not have bald spots thank god for one thing and i dont have recending hair line neither
just lots and lots of falling out hair.

I have used Biotin and no luck there neither.

I have read the net over and over but nothing seems to help women much.

I still blame it on reducing my hormone meds but i am not sure. I cant be on higher doses anymore because it gives me other problems female wise.

I also had my gallbladder out 4 yrs before I started to loose my hair and I have had alot of issues with diarrahea now I wonder if that could be my problem that i am loosing alot of what ever out of my body because of the bowel problem.

These are the only two things i can think that could be doing it to me ..

Because any med's i am on i been on long before this hair loss started.

I have thought of trying ROGRAINE but it's something you will have to stay on for life because once you stop you will loose all hair that you grew and I sure don't want that neither.

I just don't know what to do anymore.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:26 PM
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Hair loss is also a sign of Lupus....mine fell out horribly until my Lupus went into remission....now it much better controlled....do you have sores in your head??? AT the time my hair was falling out, I had several sores in my head, Good Luck...Sherri
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:50 PM
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I was tested for some Autoimmune diseases before but nothing showed up so far..

No sores as of yet .

At times it seems tender though
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:48 PM
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I know taking some medicines they can reduce certains vitamins and possabilty cause a deficiency in people. Diarrhea can be a sign of a folic acid deficiency as well as other vitamins deficiency. I would ask your doctor to see if he can check you for a vitamin deficiency.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:36 AM
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Do you have a family history of thinning hair? You didn't mention how old you are? I'm 41, and have always had so much hair! I have always lost a lot of hair in shower, etc (way more than seems normal), but I notice it worse now. I also notice that the front part of my hair is really thinning, and I can see my scalp much more easily than I used to. Unfortunately, it seems to be a problem in my family. My aunts hair is so thin now, that it could barely be called hair any more (she is close to 80 now, but she had extremely thick hair when she was younger, and the thinning started a long time ago). My mom's hair (she is in her 60's) is getting very, very thin too...luckily she is having some success with that Nioxin stuff. I'm thinking that I'm going to need to try that stuff soon. At the rate my hair is thinning in the front, I can't imagine what it will look like in a few years. Darn heredity
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:48 AM
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Yes, My father and one brother are bald in the front. They lost theres early ages i bet 20's or 30's.
As, for my mom NO she's still got thick hair shes 69 yrs old.
Other women in family I think were fine till they got much older but not this early like I have.

I am now 52 and so that would make me 45 yrs old when i first got this hair loss problem.

Yes, mine is also thin on the top and I can see my scalp also. And its hard to cover it up anymore.

I'm also thinning thru out my head so its all over hair loss for me.

This sure SUCKS..

I decided to try taking some B12 and Amino Acid since I have that bowel issue that I stated earlier in post I been told the ppl who have the gastic by pass surgerys have to be on alot of pills because of there bowel issues and they also loose hair so i guess its worth a shot i really dont know what more to do.

Wonder if this is a good idea or not taken these pills? I do hate popping alot of pills aday.

I did find out I am lossing hundreds of hair aday.
Because when i just worked my hair up in the morg there was 100 so strands just then
When i washed my hair last nite there was hundreds more then.
So, mine is a great deal daily.

I am so upset over this problem NO wonder A person is STRESSED out How can you not be.
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Old 03-11-2007, 08:06 PM
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Hi,

first off I am so very sorry you are going through this it is terrible :-( I have some hair loss too and in the front its worse, I did several google searches on this and I found Aloe Vera as a natural remedy for hair loss.

If you get a chance google it,

HTH
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:33 PM
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Thanks all for your blessings

Have you tryed the Aloe Vera ?
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:58 PM
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Lightbulb Four-Step Diet for your Hair

Four-Step Diet for your Hair

Step 1: Eat plenty of iron-rich protein
Protein is necessary for all cell growth, including hair cells. And the iron found within certain protein foods helps your red blood cells carry oxygen to all cells in the body, including the hair follicles.

Good sources of iron-rich protein include clams, oysters, lean beef, turkey, duck, lamb, chicken, pork, shrimp, and eggs.

Good sources of vegetarian iron-rich protein include tofu, soybeans, lentils, beans, and black-eyed peas.

Step 2: Load up on Vitamin C
Vitamin C improves the body's ability to absorb non-heme iron (also known as vegetarian-based iron), so vegetarians should eat iron-rich vegetables and foods rich in vitamin C at the same meal.

Good sources of Vitamin C include guava, peppers, oranges, grapefruit, strawberries, pineapple, papayas, lemons, broccoli, kale, and Brussels sprouts.

Step 3: Be sure to get your Bs (folate, vitamin B-6, vitamin B-12)
These vitamins are involved in the creation of red blood cells, which carry oxygen and nutrients to all body cells, including those of the scalp, follicles, and growing hair. Without enough B vitamins, the cells will not thrive, causing shedding, slow growth, or weak hair that is prone to breaking.

Good sources of vitamin B-6 include fortified whole-grain breakfast cereals, garbanzo beans, wild salmon, lean beef, pork tenderloin, chicken breast, white potatoes (w/skin), bananas, and lentils.

Good sources of Vitamin B-12 include shellfish (clams, oysters, crab), wild salmon, fortified whole-grain breakfast cereal, soy milk, trout, lean beef, and low-fat cottage cheese.

Good sources of folate include fortified whole-grain breakfast cereals, lentils, black-eyed peas, soybeans, oatmeal, turnip greens, spinach, green peas, artichokes, okra, beets, parsnips, and broccoli.

Step 4: Don't forget the Zinc
The mineral zinc is involved in tissue growth and repair, including hair growth. It also helps keep the oil glands around the hair follicles working properly. Low levels of zinc can cause hair loss, slow growth, and dandruff.

Good sources of zinc include oysters, lean beef, crab, ostrich, pork tenderloin, peanut butter, wheat germ, turkey, veal, pumpkin seeds, chicken, and chickpeas.
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:52 PM
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Thanks for the info...

Whats your Thoughts on taken Amino Acid for Hair Loss?

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Four-Step Diet for your Hair

Step 1: Eat plenty of iron-rich protein
Protein is necessary for all cell growth, including hair cells. And the iron found within certain protein foods helps your red blood cells carry oxygen to all cells in the body, including the hair follicles.

Good sources of iron-rich protein include clams, oysters, lean beef, turkey, duck, lamb, chicken, pork, shrimp, and eggs.

Good sources of vegetarian iron-rich protein include tofu, soybeans, lentils, beans, and black-eyed peas.

Step 2: Load up on Vitamin C
Vitamin C improves the body's ability to absorb non-heme iron (also known as vegetarian-based iron), so vegetarians should eat iron-rich vegetables and foods rich in vitamin C at the same meal.

Good sources of Vitamin C include guava, peppers, oranges, grapefruit, strawberries, pineapple, papayas, lemons, broccoli, kale, and Brussels sprouts.

Step 3: Be sure to get your Bs (folate, vitamin B-6, vitamin B-12)
These vitamins are involved in the creation of red blood cells, which carry oxygen and nutrients to all body cells, including those of the scalp, follicles, and growing hair. Without enough B vitamins, the cells will not thrive, causing shedding, slow growth, or weak hair that is prone to breaking.

Good sources of vitamin B-6 include fortified whole-grain breakfast cereals, garbanzo beans, wild salmon, lean beef, pork tenderloin, chicken breast, white potatoes (w/skin), bananas, and lentils.

Good sources of Vitamin B-12 include shellfish (clams, oysters, crab), wild salmon, fortified whole-grain breakfast cereal, soy milk, trout, lean beef, and low-fat cottage cheese.

Good sources of folate include fortified whole-grain breakfast cereals, lentils, black-eyed peas, soybeans, oatmeal, turnip greens, spinach, green peas, artichokes, okra, beets, parsnips, and broccoli.

Step 4: Don't forget the Zinc
The mineral zinc is involved in tissue growth and repair, including hair growth. It also helps keep the oil glands around the hair follicles working properly. Low levels of zinc can cause hair loss, slow growth, and dandruff.

Good sources of zinc include oysters, lean beef, crab, ostrich, pork tenderloin, peanut butter, wheat germ, turkey, veal, pumpkin seeds, chicken, and chickpeas.
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Old 03-12-2007, 02:42 PM
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i am 38 and have experienced what is probably normal hair thinning with age, not as bad as some who have posted but still distressing. anyway i have been taking micronor (progestin only birth control pills) for 5 months or so and while i think they affect my moods and have caused me to gain 8 lbs or so, i think they are preventing my hair from falling out. i definitely do not see much in the shower or on the floor anymore. and i don't see strands just falling out for no reason either, although i sure used to. just a thought.
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:31 PM
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I do believe Hormone's have played a very BIG roll In my hair loss issue.

But, to find a Dr. who will liston is one thing.

They rather us women DON"T take hormone's because of the breast cancer now.

Back 7 yrs when this all started i was on High Mg of Hormone's but i had cut down on the Mg. and this is when i noticed this change.

I have tryed to go back up on the Mg but the Dr's won't let me.

The Dr's said they rather see the hair loss instead of Breast Cancer .

So, Now I have No clue what to do to stop this hair loss.

Thanks for posting your info.

Glad, You found something that worked for you.

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i am 38 and have experienced what is probably normal hair thinning with age, not as bad as some who have posted but still distressing. anyway i have been taking micronor (progestin only birth control pills) for 5 months or so and while i think they affect my moods and have caused me to gain 8 lbs or so, i think they are preventing my hair from falling out. i definitely do not see much in the shower or on the floor anymore. and i don't see strands just falling out for no reason either, although i sure used to. just a thought.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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I also had my gallbladder out 4 yrs before I started to loose my hair and I have had alot of issues with diarrahea now I wonder if that could be my problem that i am loosing alot of what ever out of my body because of the bowel problem..
I just did a search and stumble upon these sites. They say people who have gallbladder surgery some end up having a Vitamin A Deficiency. Prolonged vitamin A deficiency can lead to hair loss .

Since you had your gallbladder out 4 years prior to your hair loss . It worth checking into. A Vitamin defiency can take years to show up before you have any of the symptoms. I hope you find out what causing it ..Don't give up!

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Old 03-12-2007, 05:08 PM
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Its worth checking into.
Your eating habits has alot to do with your phyical well being, esp since medications are involved.
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Old 03-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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Thank you so very much for the links...



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I just did a search and stumble upon these sites. They say people who have gallbladder surgery some end up having a Vitamin A Deficiency. Prolonged vitamin A deficiency can lead to hair loss .

Since you had your gallbladder out 4 years prior to your hair loss . It worth checking into. A Vitamin defiency can take years to show up before you have any of the symptoms. I hope you find out what causing it ..Don't give up!

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=18450

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Old 03-14-2007, 10:28 PM
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For several years now I have had the same problem. I have always had really thick hair so it isn't noticable to anyone who doesn't know how much hair I used to have, but it is ridiculous. After I take a bath, the water wouldn't even drain there was so much hair. Even my hair stylist noticed and thought there was something wrong. And I was exhausted all the time, I work 7 to 3:30, it's about a 45 minute drive. Every day I would get home at 4:15 and lay on the couch until time to go to bed.

I went to 4 or 5 doctors. Every one checked me for thyroid problems, all the tests came back normal. One told me I was depressed (I wasn't depressed, I was exhausted), another told me I should use a shampoo with a different ph.

I did some research and some doctors actually go by a slightly different TSH range on thyroid. The new doctor I found tested me and diagnosed me with hypothryroidism.

I was really leery of this doctor, because he is a licensed MD, but he also has a NMD as well (natural medicine). Anyway for the hair loss he wanted to check thyroid first, but also asked if I ever was on well water (which I have been). He also tests patients who have been on well water for heavy metals poisoning since hair loss is a side effect. He was the first doctor that made it clear that we would figure out what was going wrong.

That was a very long post, full of lots of my health details which ya'll probably didn't want to hear But my main point is, keep at it until you find a doctor that listens to you and tries to find the problem. It's been 2 months and I feel better now than I have in about 5 years.
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:07 AM
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Thank you very much for your post and ideas. It wasn't long at all..

So what did they end up doing for you ?? What do you take?

People also dont understand or know what hair i once had neither. Till i show them pictures of each year.

My hair loss started in 2000.

I was tested for Thyroid in 2002 i was 2 pts over so they said i was also Hypothryroidism so they put me on the cheapest meds the very long L word one.
It made me feel so much worse and i was more Exhausted then I already am.
And it never slowed down the hair loss.

I do get cold alot, and My heels and feet get really and dry in the winter time.

So, i stayed on the meds for 2 yrs or so and I felt worse and worse. All the testing show my levels were fine so Knowone would change my meds or doses.
So one day i UP and stopped taken the meds and i felt so much better.
I do still get cold, and I do get exhausted but i do have more better days then i did when on the meds.

I do need to get my blood work redone this yr to see how all is.
I just hope my levels aren't high cause i dont want to be on thyroid meds.

We also have well water BUT i do buy bottle water for me to drink only..
But i do cook with the well water.
We do have a water softner unit.
But, I Dont have drinking water unit.


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For several years now I have had the same problem. I have always had really thick hair so it isn't noticable to anyone who doesn't know how much hair I used to have, but it is ridiculous. After I take a bath, the water wouldn't even drain there was so much hair. Even my hair stylist noticed and thought there was something wrong. And I was exhausted all the time, I work 7 to 3:30, it's about a 45 minute drive. Every day I would get home at 4:15 and lay on the couch until time to go to bed.

I went to 4 or 5 doctors. Every one checked me for thyroid problems, all the tests came back normal. One told me I was depressed (I wasn't depressed, I was exhausted), another told me I should use a shampoo with a different ph.

I did some research and some doctors actually go by a slightly different TSH range on thyroid. The new doctor I found tested me and diagnosed me with hypothryroidism.

I was really leery of this doctor, because he is a licensed MD, but he also has a NMD as well (natural medicine). Anyway for the hair loss he wanted to check thyroid first, but also asked if I ever was on well water (which I have been). He also tests patients who have been on well water for heavy metals poisoning since hair loss is a side effect. He was the first doctor that made it clear that we would figure out what was going wrong.

That was a very long post, full of lots of my health details which ya'll probably didn't want to hear But my main point is, keep at it until you find a doctor that listens to you and tries to find the problem. It's been 2 months and I feel better now than I have in about 5 years.
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:28 PM
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I would find a good doctor that can help you regulate your medicines and will keep working with you until you feel better.

I am on Armour. After I had been on it, I was feeling a lot better but still had hair loss, so my doctor increased the dose.
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I am a licensed cosmetologist and sounds like you may be experiencing a Hair Disease called Alopecia Areata. Simply put, it is the thinning and balding of an otherwise healthy person. It is very possible that you are not sick or having a reaction to meds/vitamins. I did a quick google for a more in depth definition....HTH

Alopecia Areata:
Alopecia areata is a common autoimmune disease that results in the loss of hair on the scalp and elsewhere. It usually starts with one or more small, round, smooth patches. It occurs in males and females of all ages and races, but onset most often occurs in childhood. It is estimated that approximately two percent of the population will be affected at some point in their lives, or over 4.5 million people in the United States.

In alopecia areata, the affected hair follicles are mistakenly attacked in groups by a person's own immune system (white blood cells), resulting in the arrest of the hair growth stage. These affected follicles become very small, drastically slow down production, and grow no hair visible above the surface for months or years. The scalp is the most commonly affected area, but the beard or any hair-bearing site can be affected alone or together with the scalp.

Symptoms
Alopecia symptoms depend on the type of hair loss. Some of the more common symptoms include:

Male-pattern baldness:

Hair recedes
Hair falls out at the top of the head
Affects men and women

Female-pattern baldness:

Hair thins over the entire head
Hair comes out when brushing

Alopecia areata:

Rapid hair loss
Round or oval patches of hair loss
Sometimes tiny hairs are visible in the patches
Brittle and discolored fingernails and toenails with ridges

Stress-related:

Gradual shedding
Hairs come out with gentle pulling

Fungal infections:

Patches of hair loss
Black dots in the patches
Itching
Scaling
Inflammation (such as redness)
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