Another thread had me thinking about this:
04-23-2007, 09:58 PM
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Another liberal hypocrite at work. She should be embarrassed to propose such a ridiculous idea given that she wastes tons of paper on her CD covers; petro-chemical products making the CDs; travels in quite a nice tour bus, I'm sure; flies all over the world wasting jet fuel. It brings to mind the hypocricy of John Edwards "fight for the poor" from his 20,000 sq ft home and his $400 haircuts; and Al Gore preaching of global warming from his toasty 10,000 sq ft home. Give me a break! It's yet another case of "Do as I say, not as I do. No thanks.

Did anyone else hear about the clothing line she is developing? It is to cut down on the use of napkins and kleenex. It has a removable sleeve that the wearer is supposed to wipe their mouth on after eating or if they have a cold, they can wipe their snotty nose on it. I wonder if she'll wear one of those outfits to the Grammys next year?
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Do you think it was wrong of John Edwards to spend $400 on a haircut???

I had seen on Oprah last week, that Sheryl Crow's tour bus runs on vegetable oil, and is very environmentally friendly.

Opinions???

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Personally, I think they are all spoiled brats - politicians and celebs alike. They should have to worry about how to pay a heating or A/C bill one year and then see how they feel.

I mean honestly, the candidates already have millions set aside to finance the run for office - how can they possibly know what we go through? $400 would pay for haircuts for my family for a year or more.

I am uncertain about Cheryl Crow but I do remember hearing Barbra Streisand talking about the enviroment, but she has an apartment in NY that is set at a certain temp for her furs. Did anyone else hear that or am I dreaming?

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I think... if someone can afford $400 for a haircut, good for them Do I think that's a good price for a haircut? No. Could he have gotten the same haircut for $20 or less? Who knows. I think when you have that kind of money you don't realize how "everyone else" lives.

I am sure if everyone picked our lives apart bit by bit we would be harshly judged and called names. People have a right to their opinions and maybe rich people are spoiled in some ways but I bet my life has more peace and tranquility than most of theirs do.
It's all about perspective. People think I am spoiled beause I spend what I do on my hair, makeup etc and I am by no means rich. I get things at 50% off (except my hair unfortunately).
So maybe someone thinks I'm spoiled for what I eat how I live etc and maybe I think someone else is ignorant but what it comes down to is we make our own choices based on whatever we want to base it on.
What's right for one is not right for another.

If I were a lawyer like Mr Edwards is I would think nothing of spending $400 or more if that's what I cost for what I wanted my hair to look like. Nobody's business; he pays for it with money he earned.

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I think they're all hypocrites. "Do as I say, not as I do". Edwards is always talking about the two groups in America and blah, blah, blah. Well, we certainly know which side he is on! His $400 haircuts and his newly built home in NC. How can he possibly know how it feels to try to feed a family on less than he pays for one haircut a month. Those guitars that Sheryl Crow plays -- hmmm... they're made of the finest quality of wood around. Hypocrite. And then she wants to tell US to use one square of TP?? And now she's going to make money on her 'invention' of the cloth sleeve?? Wow, didn't that used to be called a hankerchief?? I read somewhere that Barbara Streisland has an RV follow her everywhere because she refuses to use a public restroom.

For the life of me I can't figure out why people want to follow and believe what these overpaid actors and actresses say. It's like they're God or something. Since when did they become the authority on anything??

Nope, those $400 haircuts were paid for with campaign funds. That's how it came to light that he was paying $400 for them.

The best way to lead is by example.

Enough said for me!!

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So which of us is so perfect that we can constantly go around judging other people? How are we so intelligent that we can determine what in the press is true and what is malarkey? I am not defending Mr Edwards per se I am just saying no matter what anyone does there are those who criticize. It doesn't matter how you help other people or how much you try to do to no harm to those around you people will always say you are doing something wrong.

I am so glad that I am acquainted with so many perfect people through this board. I guess we are all above reproach in any way.

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I don't think I read that anyone was claiming to be perfect. I think some "judgements" were made based on stories reported. Not conclusions about people necessarily, but a discussion on what was reported.

These people are in the spotlight. Debates are going to happen about them and the actions they take. That's just the way it is. Are we supposed to hear stories and make no judgements based on what we hear? Just listen and then say, "hm, that was interesting"?

You just said in this same post that you bet your life was more peaceful and tranquil than theirs! Sounds to me like you were the one judging.

And yes, isn't it nice that we're all so perfect!!

What are these boards for if not to read other peoples opinions? Isn't that what the poster asked for, opinions? I for one enjoy seeing how my logic adds up with other peoples!

Who claimed to be perfect? Who claimed to be "above reproach?" I think I have the intelligence to see if Edwards responded and admitted to $400 haircuts or that his house is 20,000+ sq. ft., etc. I didn't base my comments on innuendo or something I saw written on a bathroom wall. I feel comfortable criticizing someone who criticizes our country and says there are two Americas - one rich and one poor, and yet he lives a very ritzy lifestyle. I call that hypocricy. Moreover, I can freely admit that I judge people every day. It's my job as a mother - I judge my children's teachers, daycare providers, playmates, etc. If I didn't make such judgments, I would not be a good parent. As a voter, I most certainly judge politicians and their actions, or celebrities who put themselves out there making ridiculous comments about wiping w/ one piece of toilet paper while spending millions on self-promotion.

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"To any critics who say a woman can't think and work and carry a baby at the same time, I'd just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave." - Sarah Palin

On the positive side: there are a growing number of artists who are trying to go "Carbon Neutral". I heard a radio discussion about KT Tunstall in the car recently and just thought to look it up. Carbon neutral means that for a given product:

• CO2 emissions have been measured
• Reductions identified
• Remaining emissions have been offset through high quality carbon projects around the world
• Thought has been invested into branding and communication of climate change action

In KT's case, she is planting trees to offset the environmental cost of CD production and touring. KT Tunstall goes CarbonNeutral - The Carbon Neutral Company

Pretty cool!

cj/

Pearl Jam tries to do their part too.
PEARL JAM'S CONTINUED EFFORTS TO OFFSET CARBON EMISSIONS

2003 - We joined forces with Conservation International to offset 5,700 tons of CO2 emissions released from trucks, buses, airplane travel, hotel rooms, concert venues - and the estimated one million fans driving to and from the concerts - by creating and managing a new protected area in the rainforest of Makira, Madagascar.

2004 - Stone Gossard spearheaded an effort on the 2004 Vote for Change tour called the "Vote for Change Renewable Energy Project" that raised $77,000 to fund a variety of small-scale renewable energy projects in several of the states the tour traveled through. Dave Matthews, Bonnie Raitt, Pearl Jam and Stone Gossard individually donated money to this effort, which was overseen by Tom Starrs of the Bonneville Environmental Foundation. To date, the Vote for Change Renewable Energy Project has installed four solar photovoltaic power systems in states across the US, with four additional systems set for completion by the end of 2006.

2006 - This year we expanded their program to encompass a broader range of clean air solutions. In addition to the Carbon Portfolio Strategy, we are working to offset carbon emissions from their 2006 US tour by using B100 - pure bio-diesel - in all production trucks and in our tour buses. B100 reduces emissions of carbon monoxide by approximately 50% and carbon dioxide by 78% on a net lifecycle basis. In contrast to fossil fuels, which release new carbon previously sequestered in the earth's crust, the carbon in B100 emissions is recycled from carbon already present in the atmosphere.

The Carbon Portfolio Strategy is the newest component of our ongoing efforts to advance clean renewable energy and carbon mitigation. Through this Strategy, we will donate a total of $100,000 to nine organizations doing innovative work around climate change, renewable energy, and the environment.

We hope that by highlighting and creating a commons for these groups, we can advance preservation of existing ecosystems, restoration of degraded environments, and continued investment in clean, renewable energy technologies. Furthermore, by working with these groups and others to mitigate our own carbon emissions, we ultimately hope to get Pearl Jam at 0% net emissions for our tours and businesses.

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John Edwards has stated unequivocally that this was his own personal expense and he was paying for it. Unfortunately, the salon sent the bill to the campaign headquarters and they just automatically paid for it. Once itbecame known what happened, he paid for it personally. I believe that this was an oversight...and definitely will give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes, he is rich, but does not mean that his assertions to help those less fortunate than he and his family, monetarily at least, is untrue.

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Have the courage to be yourself.

I guess I would have a hard time voting for someone who paid $400 for a haircut. If he has that little common sense and frugality in his own life how will he run ours??? Cookie

He was paying for the stylist to come to him, not just the hair cut. I’m quite sure many members of the administration, congress, senate CEOs have done the same thing quite often. Sometimes it make more sense to do it that way. Can you imagine the chaos if he walked into Supercuts? Actually in LA he got away cheap!

He has never said do away with the rich – he is saying there should not be as big a divide as there is and we need to find a way to lift the poor up and bring back the thing that made this country great – the middle class, which is rapidly disappearing. That is not criticizing his country – it’s facing facts before it’s too late to do something about it. Would his fighting to change things somehow be more acceptable to you if he lived in a ghetto and bought his suits at Kmart? Without the rich, just like without the middle, this country would collapse.

The Edwards do not now nor have they ever led a ritzy lifestyle. Haven’t seen Elizabeth or John running around in bling lately. They’ve bought a larger property yes, they’re in their fifties – they’ve earned enjoying their money now and it’s not like they can comfortably take the kids to Disney or even the movies. The house is actually about 10,000 ft – the rest of the footage are outbuildings which are recreation areas. Their charitable foundation alone, more than balances out the extravagance in their home. Not only are they largely responsible for it financially but they are hands on also.

I’m not even planning to vote for the man but cheez trying to make him out to be as ostentatious as Trump or impugn him over a haircut is rather petty.

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I cut my own hair to save money.
I cut DH's hair to save money.
If I won a trillion dollar lottery I would not pay $400 for a haircut.
In that case I might get mine cut professionally but would probably still cut DH's.
There are too many needs in this world to spend money so foolishly!

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See Im having a hard time with this debate.

It all depends on what is important to you.

Ex. My MIL and FIL have MONEY!! They have a couple of million dollars in a house , few hundred thou for the cars and guess what, she won't buy brand name canned vegatables. I know its crazy!!

Ex. #2 My granny and papa have more money than the IL's and you'd never ever know it!! They are in a modest 1800 sq ft house thats paid for, she drives a 4 year old van and papa drives a10 year old truck. They will buy the brand name veggies and pay for the expensive haircuts.

Its all about whats important to you. I bet I could walk around your house and find stuff I would never buy and I would think your crazy to pay that price for that item and you could probably do the same in mine!

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Exactly! I think we all have our "thing" that we will spend $$$$ on.

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I love when ppl agree with me ....(sigh) its hard being right all the time, LOL

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