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Old 05-03-2007, 08:41 AM
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Unhappy Child exposing himself...

My 8 year old DD got off the bus yesterday very upset over a little boy who exposed himself!!
Apparently he and another girl were playing truth or dare and she dared him to show his stuff!! AND HE DID!! I was shocked!! Had to call the school this morning and of course the principal isnt there this morning...
How would you handle this?? Would you call the parents also or let the school deal with it...
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:57 AM
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I would let the school deal with it and tell your DD not to play Truth or Dare with those kids. The girl who dared him should be talked to too.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:05 AM
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Tough call.

What should YOU do? Let the school deal with it.

What would *I* Do? I'd call the parents and tell them to let their little pervert know that the next time he pulls his junk out infront of my daughter, she has been instructed to rip it off and hand it to him. But, I am a hot headed big mouth!

I was behind a school bus the other day ( middle school aged kids) and the kids at the back of the bus were all jumping on eachother and playing around. Atleast 5 kids were out of their seats!

THAT is why I will be driving my kids to and from school. My DD starts Kindy this fall and I am already sick to my stomach at the thought of her being in the same building with 5th graders, etc.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:28 AM
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The thing that kind of gets to me is a GIRL dared him to do this!! I talked with the principal and he said that he will deal with it. There are cameras in the bus and he is pulling the tape to see what happened. And he is going to tell the kids thats how they saw it..
I am a hot head and wanted to go to the kids parents too but I didnt.. My fiance however is VERY upset about this and wants to talk to the parents.. I did ask him to let the school handle it. (we live in a SMALL town and everyone knows everyone...) He adores my daughter and protects her big time!!
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:01 AM
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Personally, I would call the police as well. A child of that age KNOWS not to expose themselves and it's a crime in my eyes. If this boy will pull out his junk for all to see at age 8, what will he do at age 13 or 14? The parents probably have no idea of his behavior and they need to know about it so he can get help. The girl who dared him also needs help.
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:37 AM
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Personally, I would call the police as well. A child of that age KNOWS not to expose themselves and it's a crime in my eyes. If this boy will pull out his junk for all to see at age 8, what will he do at age 13 or 14? The parents probably have no idea of his behavior and they need to know about it so he can get help. The girl who dared him also needs help.

I think calling the police is a bit harsh, IMO.

I would ask to view the tape from the bus, and see what is on there. Then, I would take your DD over to the kids' house and speak to the parents. It's a tough call, for sure.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:20 AM
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With all due respect to smurf, I don't think I'd call the police. I'd let the school handle it and I'd not make any calls to parents either -- let the school do that.

I'd like to think that these kids will NOT turn into teenage pervs based on this incident. Some families have more rigid rules in regards to modesty and maybe this will give the children's families a jumping off point for discussing the needs for modesty in public (along with some other things like not playing Truth or Dare!!!). It will be good to have the principal involved in order to mediate.

In my most humble opinion, there is no need to embarrass the children or their families any more than necessary... The incident has come to light, let the school deal with it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:21 AM
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That is the reason I drive my kids to and from school. The bus has become a hazard #1 they don't stay in their seats. #2 They learn way more than they should on a bus. #3 They like to get to school early. Keep your DD off the bus if possible. This kid is going to find out she told and then that's a whole other can of worms.

In response to #1, our bus drivers absolutely won't allow kids to jump around in their seats... and #2, they'll learn it somewhere else if not on the bus. Sorry. #3, our buses don't really get to school much earlier or later than I drop them off.

We use the bus and my kids are fine and safe.

Hope I'm not starting a battle here. I have a different opinion and really love the buses here!
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:27 AM
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Wow thats a tough call about the police , but if I were the little perverts parents I would want to know...most of the time the parents arent aware of how their children are acting...the little girl who dared him should be talked to as well and her parents should be told as well. She should know better than that to dare him to do something like that.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:25 PM
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I don't think I'd call the police. I also don't know that the parents of the exposer will worry that much about it, unfortunately.

Either one of two things is probably going on. Either he's an otherwise good kid who got caught up in being the center of attention, and thought it would be funny... in which case, whatever the school dishes out will probably shock him into better behavior, or he's a kid from a rough background whose parents are going to brush it off as kids being kids, in which case, the school is probably his best consistent source of discipline.

I'd request that the school let me know how they have followed up, and depending on how satisfied I was with their actions, follow up in other ways... or not.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:28 PM
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My 8 year old DD got off the bus yesterday very upset over a little boy who exposed himself!!
Apparently he and another girl were playing truth or dare and she dared him to show his stuff!! AND HE DID!! I was shocked!! Had to call the school this morning and of course the principal isnt there this morning...
How would you handle this?? Would you call the parents also or let the school deal with it...

How old is the little boy who exposed himself? It would depend on his age on how I would handle it. If he is only 5-6, I would call his parents - but I would tell the school also- but more about the little girl.
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:29 PM
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I guess my question would be how old is this kid? I mean yah kids aren't suppose to do stuff like that, but is he in kindergarten and 5 or is he in 5th grade and 11? I think that is important in how if he knows what he did was wrong or was it a kid just going along with things cause he is little?
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Old 05-03-2007, 12:49 PM
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I guess I was reading that the boy who exposed himself was 8. If he was 5 or 6 then I would feel differently but at 8, I stick by my original post. It's not that the kid needs to get "charged" but it should be on his record so that if something happens again in the future, it will show it's not the time. I guess in my experience, the schools don't do much so maybe that's why I feel the way I do.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:13 PM
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See I just saw her DD was 8 so I wondered..
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:18 PM
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Hmm... I'd let the school principal handle it, and make SURE he handles it.

I would NOT call the police, nor would I call the parents.

I'm sure the parents will hear/have heard already (?) and should be absolutely embarassed (for good reason)

They will (or should) teach their child NOT to do that.

If my 9 or 7 yr old daughter came home saying that, I'd make sure I'd give the principal my 2 cents.

My oldest DID come home one time and said that boys were sticking their middle finger up like this (and she demonstrated!). We immediately told her NOT to do that. Explaining a little...

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Old 05-03-2007, 01:20 PM
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See I just saw her DD was 8 so I wondered..
Yeah, my oops...
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:39 PM
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We drive our kids to school.

I have called First Student, the local company that contracts with our county, about 30 times this year! No kidding, half was gross errors made on the drivers behalf and the other is kids jumping around or fighting.

Did I mention we drive our kids......point is we know we can't protect our kids from everything.....but we try to limit them from harm as much as possible....as I'm sure you do OP. Was this kids being kids? I would be concerned that one of these kids is being abused. It would be interesting to see that tape and find out how it played out. I never got such an education as I did in high school for 4 months in freshman year when I had to ride a bus,I had never ridden a bus before but, I didn't want my mom and dad driving me to high school and I was 14 so no driving yet for me, I was begging them to drive me after that four months......Kids were having sex usually oral, smoking weed, fighting and boys were grabbing on all the girls all the time. Not to mention the bus driver was a pervert!! So he did nothing, until he got fired for grabbing on a girl. This story took place 15 years ago ppl. I shudder to think whats going on now.

Oh and did I mention we lived in the "nice" part of town? If you can drive your kids, no you shouldn't have to, but nowadays its pretty much No riding bikes out of sight of your parents, no lemonade stands on the corner neighborhood block, don't think about leaving your kid in the kids section of the library or the local weiner wagger might flash them!!
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:39 PM
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I agree the school principal should handle the situation. I also think the girl that did the daring should be dealt with too. If the principal handles the situation properly, the school resource officer would be called in.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:15 PM
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I agree the school principal should handle the situation. I also think the girl that did the daring should be dealt with too. If the principal handles the situation properly, the school resource officer would be called in.

Yes the girls should be talked to also. They put the dare out there. What the boy did was wrong but so were the girls.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:41 PM
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Well the child is in 5th grade, not sure how old that would make him... 12??
I didnt have to worry about calling the police, the school did that. This is considered "sexually deviant behavior" due to the fact that there are kids as young as 5 on the bus. Not quiet sure what the police are going to do but the school has taken over and my DD will not be named at all in any of this. The tape from the bus is showing all they need..
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:45 PM
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Well the child is in 5th grade, not sure how old that would make him... 12??
I didnt have to worry about calling the police, the school did that. This is considered "sexually deviant behavior" due to the fact that there are kids as young as 5 on the bus. Not quiet sure what the police are going to do but the school has taken over and my DD will not be named at all in any of this. The tape from the bus is showing all they need..
Boys and their "toys" I think in 5th grade he would/should be around 10ish??? None the less, old enuf to know better. Hopefully this will scare him into acting right!!
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:49 PM
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well glad the police are involved and the school is acting on it!
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:51 PM
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I am so glad that the school called the police. Wow. Also glad that there was a tape of it. Wow.

I think that the school is handling it right and that yes, the police should definitely be called if the boy was in 5th grade. I don't know why I assumed that the boy was 8 except that they seat the kids on our buses according to age.

Sorry for all of this.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:53 PM
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My son is in 5th he is 11 1/2. so he is close to 12. Crazy
Wow, my DS had just turned 10 the month he started 5th grade. I tried to gage his age/grade now and count backwards, that's why I figured this boy would be around 10ish.

On a side note, boys do some crazy stuff(not excusing this one, btw). We used to live near this one family, FOUR boys. Two of them pooped in a cup, and were flinging it around on the neighborhood kids. But, if you knew the parents, you'd totally see why they act like that.
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I am not trying to start anything but it does not mean that the girl or the boy are bad kids. It doesn't mean that there parents are bad either. Just my opinion
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:16 PM
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It may not mean the boy is bad but it definitly means he needs some counseling if he thinks pulling out his privates is okay. The girl who dared him should be told not to do such things. She probably thought he wouldn't do it (with good cause) but he did and that made her part of it.

I don't blame parents for acts of their children unless I KNOW the parent is at fault. Good point
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