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Old 07-20-2007, 05:37 AM
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OMG! Had Enough? Not For the Faint of Heart!

Had enough? He shouldn't have had any at all! What kind of mother would use that phrasing when her 18 month old was being abused? I guess one that must have allowed her boyfriend to hit her baby in the past. Or maybe one that heads to the bathroom to wash off the drywall when her latest boyfriend slams her baby's head through it instead of calling an ambulance. Sasha Glenn should have been charged in her son's death, right along with her sick boyfriend.


Ohio Teen Accused of Killing Child Because He Was Angry Over Toilet Training
Thursday , July 19, 2007


A judge ruled that a teenager will be tried as an adult for the death of an 18-month old boy he is accused of repeatedly swinging against a wall because he was frustrated with the child's toilet training.

Derris Smith, 18, the live-in boyfriend of the child's mother, has been charged with murder. He was 17 on June 27, when authorities say he delivered the beating that led to Malakai Glenn's death four days later.

The boy's mother, 20-year-old Sasha Glenn, testified Wednesday that the impact of the child hitting the wall left drywall stuck to his head and cracked a wooden door.

"When I picked him up he put his arms around me," Glenn said. "He was staring at me for a minute with big eyes, then he went limp." The child never regained consciousness and died after being hospitalized at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center.

Following the Wednesday hearing, Hamilton County Juvenile Court Judge Thomas Lipps said Smith should be tried as adult. The case will now go to a grand jury.

During the court hearing, Smith and his parents, who sat by their son, also cried.

Glenn said she was folding laundry when she heard a "boom, a thump" and found Smith gripping the front of the toddler's pajama top. She said she took her son to the bathroom to wash the drywall off his head and that Smith told the boy "he needed to start listening."

When Glenn said the boy had had enough, Smith told her, "Don't tell me what to do," she testified. "He picked him up and hit his head on the wall" before dropping him on the bed.

Smith is being held in the Hamilton County Juvenile Detention Center on $500,000 bond.

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Old 07-20-2007, 07:28 AM
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He was staring at me for a minute with big eyes, then he went limp."
I hope that looks HAUNTS her for the rest of her life
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:39 AM
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stories like this just make me cry. How can someone, anyone do this to an innocent child. How could a mother let someone do this to her child. If anyone ever dare to do that to mine I would of stabbed them. I dont care if I would of had to spend the rest of my life in jail there is no way I would ever let anyone hurt my children like that. They both need to go to jail and have some other inmates throw their heads into the wall a few times. What horrible people.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:44 AM
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sickening..
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:19 AM
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completely disgusting..... AND chances are mom will have another and another.....
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:46 AM
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The mother should be in jail as well...............



Glenn said she was folding laundry when she heard a "boom, a thump" and found Smith gripping the front of the toddler's pajama top. She said she took her son to the bathroom to wash the drywall off his head and that Smith told the boy "he needed to start listening."


It sounds like this isnt the 1st time this poor baby was abused
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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When I read the OP's title to the this thread, the first thought that went through my mind was...yes, I've had enough of all of this child abuse and torture that we've been hearing about...and sure enough...It is totally sickening and heartbreaking...Children are God's most precious gift...How can people (if you want to call these animals that?) treat them this way?...I swear I just won't ever understand...It just seems like a vicious cycle...Most of them were abused themselves...Then they go on to do the same thing...Does anyone have any regard for human life anymore?...WTH is going on? ~Lisa
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:34 AM
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holy crap

Some people are just not MEANT to be parents... EVER.

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Old 07-20-2007, 11:25 AM
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This is so sickening.

I work nights in a small post-op unit and I admit we have a TV on during the night. I listen to the news a lot (keeps me awake). I have to say that I am so sad at the way society is these days. You can't go one day without someone's child, wife or some other person being abducted, beaten, tortured or something.

How are we supposed to tell our kids the way it is supposed to be when the whole world has gone mad? It scares me to death. I worry about my kids all the time. My 19 is sure that NOTHING could ever happen to her. My 10 year old can't ride her bike without an older friend and her cell phone with her. We live in a very small, peaceful village but we still worry all the time. My 4 kids worry me to death and then I listen to crap like this and it makes me sick.

I wish that we could somehow rid the world of all of this violence and that my kids wouldn't take for granted that this is the way it is and will be.

Is it this bad in other countries???
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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holy crap

Some people are just not MEANT to be parents... EVER.

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I agree with you Jason...My Mom always says, "You have to have a license to do everything else...except be a parent." I still can't fathom how someone could do this to a poor baby. Sick. Sick. Sick. ~Lisa
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:12 PM
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I can't even think of the words to describe how awful, disgusting and terrible this is!
So Sad!
I agree about the mother will probably have more kids. She'll probably even repeat the type of slime ball that she dates. Sick!
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:38 PM
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This literally made me cry. Why do people do these types of things?! I just do not understand how you could hurt a child. I also agree they both should be in jail.
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Old 07-20-2007, 07:11 PM
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I wish the outcry for child abuse was in the forefront like dogfighting is now since Michael Vick has been charged.

Both of those parents should fry for doing what they did. That poor baby -- 18 months old.
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Old 07-20-2007, 07:12 PM
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This has been on my mind all day. I keep tearing up everytime I think of this poor little boy. How must he have felt to be so helpless that someone is doing this to him and he don't even understand why or what he has done. Someone that he probably trusted. It breaks my heart. I have 2 of my grand sons here tonight. They are 3 and 14 months. Neither is potty-trained I would love for the 3 yr old to be. But I could never imagine anyone doing that to him because he wouldn't go to the bathroom. Or doing that to him for any reason. I would really love to tie that guy up and throw him into the wall. My heart is breaking for that little baby. I honestly think jail is too good for the both of them. If there is ever a good case for the death penalty this is it. But a long painful one. Not an injection that he goes to sleep. The baby didn't get to go without pain.. neither should this ........
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:57 AM
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I just can't even imagine the horror that baby felt. How in the world could anyone do this? What kind of sick world are we living in that people accept this kind of abuse? Why isn't this on the front pages of every paper? My little angelic baby is 10 months old, and he is pure innocence. What did this pitiful baby experience before this? Can you imagine? You know it wasn't the first time he was abused. Can anyone find the state or somehting of this and let us write letters to the congress or something? Isn't there anything we could do????
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Old 07-21-2007, 08:21 AM
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When the bible said, ..."the sins of the father are visited on the child"...think of these stories. It is not only the sin of the live-in boyfriend throwing the kid against the wall, it is the sin of HIS parents who raised him to not know how to deal with frustration and the sins of HER parents who did not teach her that she should protect her child and expect more out of life. I worked ER a long time- these issues are not one live-in boyfriend and one child who cries, soils himself, throws up, won't settle down...fill in the blank. I have seen them all. They all come into the ER with stunned expressions and dying babies. The are filled with excuses "he wouldn't stop____". None of them realize that they had no more self restraint then the baby they just abused. They don't "get" it often until years later. It is a long standing story of families not having the skills to cope and not being able to teach want they do not know. Be mad but don't blame just that boyfriend and mother. They are a product of their environments.
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:07 AM
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When the bible said, ..."the sins of the father are visited on the child"...think of these stories. It is not only the sin of the live-in boyfriend throwing the kid against the wall, it is the sin of HIS parents who raised him to not know how to deal with frustration and the sins of HER parents who did not teach her that she should protect her child and expect more out of life. I worked ER a long time- these issues are not one live-in boyfriend and one child who cries, soils himself, throws up, won't settle down...fill in the blank. I have seen them all. They all come into the ER with stunned expressions and dying babies. The are filled with excuses "he wouldn't stop____". None of them realize that they had no more self restraint then the baby they just abused. They don't "get" it often until years later. It is a long standing story of families not having the skills to cope and not being able to teach want they do not know. Be mad but don't blame just that boyfriend and mother. They are a product of their environments.

This is why people who abuse their children should be sterilized so that the chain is broken
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:51 AM
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That teenager must not have given a rats behind about his life at all to just outright murder a baby for no reason?I bet he was an alcoholic or prescription drug abuser.That is so sad that a kid could get so messed up that he could careless if he spent the rest of his life in prison.He probably hates life so much that he thought he was doing the baby a favor.
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:41 PM
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That honestly broke my heart. I'm holding my son right now and just can't imagine him ever being hurt like that. Ppl like that just make me sick.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:13 AM
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HOW SAD !! Just totally heart breaking to me.

Last year I almost beat the crap out of a family member for spanking their child over a potty issue..
It got back to me their 2 year old was spanked for peeing in their pants. When I was told about this I went to their home and confronted them over this, things got heated and I ended up pushing the mom into a wall and told her if I ever hear of you doing that again I'll personally call the policwe and DHR on you.I have hear nothing else about her spanking or punishing the child again for soiling their clothing.

I DONT understand why any parent would EVER punish a child over potty issues. I have never ever punished a child of mine for peeing or pooing their clothing while being potty trained. I have a son to this day that still doesnt wipe very well when he uses the potty , I could never bring myself to spank, hit, or punish him over this. I reenforce to him the importances of him wiping better, but never punish nor downrate him about it. He has austism and I know he does the best he can at times. This just happens to be a very weak area for him to grasp.

This poor baby died over a potty issue thats just sick....

The Mother is just as much to blame. I'm so sure this WASNT the 1st time the boyfriend hit her child.
She needs to share a cell with the biggest badest female there and let her slam her into walls and tell her each time this is for you allowing and helping kill you baby.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:14 AM
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HOW SAD !! Just totally heart breaking to me.
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:41 AM
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Thinking about that innocent baby putting his arms around his mother( the one that is supposed to protect him) and staring at her is haunting, and heartbreaking.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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I can only imagine the horror of this little boy's entire life. I would be willing to put my life savings on a bet that this was definitely NOT the first time this poor little baby was abused, just the last. I can only hope that this little angel is now free of all pain and misery ...

As for the two "adults" in the house, all I can wish for is that they feel, many times over, the pain they visited on this baby....
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