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Old 09-07-2007, 08:58 PM
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Another child dies in a hot car


Did you hear about this one- the mom is an asst principal at a school , and stoppd to go get doughnuts for her co-workers, after she unloaded the doughnuts , which the news showed video survalance of, she parked her car and forgot her 2 year old little girl. Shes not being charge for this....
Another staff member saw the little girl in the car, when it was time to go home, the little girl had been in there for 8 hours.
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I dont understand how you cannot remember your child is in the back seat....I understand we get caught up in things going on in life, but it baffles me that she forgot her little girl in the back. Just my 2 cents
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:14 PM
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So very sad and this mom will surely suffer the rest of her life over the guilt. It certainly does say something about our overly busy schedules, especially families whose parents work.
I know that when I did work, I would be so rushed that I would have to make sure that I am not wearing my slippers out the door, but I don't think that I would ever leave a baby/toddler in the car because I simply forgot. I feel terrible for this family.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:43 PM
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Apparently she has done this before, though, as the news reported that--wasn't it just the day or so before even--that she had received a citation or something for leaving the child/kids in the car while she ran in and someone called the police? Maybe I'm getting my stories mixed up but I thought I heard them report that on Fox News the other day. Didn't this story happen a little while ago, seems like I heard about this a few weeks back. There have been so many of them lately though that I may just be mistaken. Worst part is that this woman works for a school, right?! Boy, now that is refreshing. I hope she isn't in charge of anyone else's children all day. I guess whether they prosecute her or not, I know that the mom is never going to have peace with herself for the rest of her life. I don't know what you do about those cases like that. Horrible mistakes but they're still responsible. It's just so sad, but of course the one that suffered the greatest won't get to live another day due to that mistake.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:52 PM
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That is horrible, but I can tell you, it almost happened to me once. My little guy was not quite a year old, and I needed to run to Home Depot. I wasn't going to bring him at first, but then DH asked if I would so he could get some things done around the house. So, off we went-the baby fell asleep in the car. Once we got to HD, my other son and I got out of the car and we started walking. He asked me, "Aren't you going to get the baby?" I had totally forgotten he was back there. It was a hot summer day. I don't even want to think about what would have happened if I had left him in there. I don't think I'm at all a negligent parent, and that incident scared the crap out of me. I can honestly understand how something like this could happen to some of these ppl.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:59 PM
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I don't understand it either. I know my children are 19 and 26 and I can tell you right now they cross my mind at least 10 times per day no matter what I am doing. I will see something, smell something or somone will say something to remind me of my children. I can't believe that this women never thought of her child once and then realized what she done.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:30 PM
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I don't understand this either. How can she be excused from this. She returned to the car several times and never once saw the child in the car????? And she works with kids all day.

I'm sorry, I can't fix stupid!!!!

Somehow, we all managed to survive without our parents forgetting us in cars. My son is now 18 and I didn't do everything right, but I NEVER forgot him in a car!!!!
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:57 PM
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Ok, maybe I have a bad attitude about this, but I think this woman needs to be held fully accountable and prosecuted to the fullest extent. I don't care how busyshe is, who she is or anything else. An assistant principal? she is supposed to be a role model, she is making decisions that affect hundreds of other people's children and she can't remember her kid is in the back seat and doesn't notice after several trips to the car? This is absolutely absurd. Yes, this will affect her for the rest of her life, as it should. She needs to be held accountable just like any other child abuse/neglect case where the child is dead.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:38 PM
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If it was a minivan, she might not have been able to see in the back as well.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:39 PM
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At the very least I would think child endangerment would be a charge that should be filed, maybe neglect. I also have no idea how you could forget a child in the car. I could almost understand a few minutes but for hours???? I always thought about my kids all the time at work. I don't understand how it wouldn't pop into her head at some point.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:49 PM
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I believe this happened Aug 24th. In the Cincinnati area. I can tell you I live in this area and it has been very hot. If I turn my car off for a few minutes to search for something I can hardly breathe after a minute or so it gets that hot that fast with as hot as it has been around here. I can not believe this is not even a neglect charge. It amazes me how people that are the cause of another person losing thier lives get less jail time then someone who steals a car. I guess that shows the value of a human life is less then a car. What kind of world are we living in.
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Old 09-08-2007, 08:59 AM
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I live in the area, so have heard the updates on the news everyday. She had previously been cited for leaving the little girl in the car when running in to pick up her other child at school. She was driving an SUV and went out several times to get things out of the back of the SUV. On the news it showed what she would have saw from the back. You could not see the car seat. Taking the child to the sitter or daycare was apparently unusual for her and unfortunately the sitter did not call to see why because she thought the husband just kept her that day. While I would not be opposed the her getting charged with something, I do not think it is necessary. I am rather surprised though that she was not charged with something, especially after previously being cited to a similar thing. She made the biggest mistake she could ever make and is now paying the highest price for it. She has to live everyday of her life with the knowledge that she caused her daughter to die a horrible death. No time in jail or anything else is going to be more of a punishment than that. We have a rule that no matter what the baby is always the first thing out of the car. It would be too easy to get side tracked and let too much time go by.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:09 AM
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I don't believe for one minute that she forgot.I think she was being cruel leaving her child in the car on a hot day,furthermore unattended for 8 hours.I just think thats cruel and she should never do it again. I think she should get off with a warning but if it happens again,have the child taken away.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:18 AM
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I don't believe for one minute that she forgot.I think she was being cruel leaving her child in the car on a hot day,furthermore unattended for 8 hours.I just think thats cruel and she should never do it again. I think she should get off with a warning but if it happens again,have the child taken away.
This child is DEAD. I'm sure it won't be happening again.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:31 AM
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This child is DEAD. I'm sure it won't be happening again.
I know,and although it was cruel,I don't believe she intended on her baby dying and no amount of money is going to bring that child back.If she has another child though,and leaves it in the car just once,it should be taken away.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:49 AM
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I believe she has a 5 year old child also.
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:12 AM
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If it was a minivan, she might not have been able to see in the back as well.

Then how did the co-worker see the child in the vehicle?
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:05 AM
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I truly feel bad for this woman. I can not imagine the pain she must be going though. Whether she is charged or not , her life is over. I really think this was a tragic mistake and do not for one minute believe she did this malicously. May God help their family though a difficult time.
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Cop charged in police dog's hot car death - CNN.com

So, why does a dead dog warrant criminal charges when a child does not?
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:37 PM
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Another one happened in Blacksburg, VA yesterday morning. A mom left her 2 year old in the car and found her dead later in the car outside their home. The police are still investigating. I heard this on our local news last night.

Are people just SO busy that they forget about their children???
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:49 PM
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So, why does a dead dog warrant criminal charges when a child does not?


Can't argue with this. Good point.
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I think any person who leaves another living being in a hot car to slowly suffer and die should be locked in hot car and left just to the point of death so they know how horrible it must be to have to die that way. Then they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I have ZERO tolerance for people who claim they "forgot" their kid in the car for hours on end. People claim that their kids are the most cheerished things in their lives. Is that any way to treat the most cheerished thing in your life??

The fact that most people who leave a child to roast don't get prosecuted makes me so mad I can't see straight. The whole "they've suffered enough" line makes me sick. They'll have suffered enough when they've suffered the same way the poor roasted child did.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:28 PM
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I cant imagine what this little one went through. Her body blistered because of the heat. Yes I am a busy mom too, and I think most moms are busy, but didnt she stop to think about her child or children throughout the day , that is whats strange to me. I am at work and I will look at the clock and think oh, the girls should be eating lunch about now, or they should be getting home soon. Didnt the babysitter call either parent to find out where the little girls was....its odd to me. I understand this mother will have to live with this, but I can imagine what that little girl went through in that amount of time
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:19 PM
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She had previously been cited for leaving the little girl in the car when running in to pick up her other child at school.

That's what I can't get past

This was NOT a one-time tragic error in judgment -- this "mother" had risked her child's life several times before - and actually been caught doing it
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:44 PM
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I've forgotten my purse.
I've forgotten my keys.
I've forgotten my cell phone.
I've even forgotten to put in my contacts(and wondered why everything was blurry.). But I have never, ever, ever, forgotten my kids.
I don't understand "forgetting" your child. I don't have a frame of reference for it.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:08 AM
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So, why does a dead dog warrant criminal charges when a child does not?
Because some people in society put more value on a dog than a child. I'm sure my statement will get me flamed, but you know what, it's true.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:31 AM
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This is what I think happened.I think she forgot out of habit to drop the baby off at the sitter,but didn't realize it till she had already gotten to the school parking lot.At that time she probably figured rather than be late,that she would just leave the baby in the car,not realizing how hot it would actually get.She also figured that would be money in her pocket that she wouldn't have to pay to the sitter (more incentive to leave the baby in the car).Just curious,when she came out and moved the car ,did she move it under some shade?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:16 PM
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This is what I think happened.I think she forgot out of habit to drop the baby off at the sitter,but didn't realize it till she had already gotten to the school parking lot.At that time she probably figured rather than be late,that she would just leave the baby in the car,not realizing how hot it would actually get.She also figured that would be money in her pocket that she wouldn't have to pay to the sitter (more incentive to leave the baby in the car).Just curious,when she came out and moved the car ,did she move it under some shade?

I have to disagree. I can't imagine how anyone could think that this woman would have left her daughter in that car to avoid paying the sitter for the day. And if she had realized that she had forgotten to drop off the baby at the sitters, and was worried about being late, she could have called the sitter or someone else to pick up the baby, if necessary.
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police documented this woman leaving her kids in the car alone THREE times before??!! but that didn't stop her, she didn't care, kept on doing it. her employer/school warned her about this,she kept on doing it...

sounds like she thought it was ok and did this on a regular basis..maybe she even knew the kid was there on that day, and thought the kid would be fine.

she should have been charged with neglect, abuse, at least, imo
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:46 PM
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A previous poster said that she was cited for leaving the children in the car for a minute or two to run into the building to get something that she had forgotten. I am not saying that she was not wrong to do this. She should have been cited for that. And if she did that 3 times, then she should have been charged with neglect. (In addition to the problem of the heat in the car, there is the possibility that the kids could have been abducted.) I just don't think that anyone in their right mind would PLAN to leave a child in a car for an 8 to 10 hour period to avoid having to pay the babysitter. That was all I was saying.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:51 PM
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My DD checks the back seat of her van EVERY TIME she gets out.
She has now developed a very good habit of doing this because she never wants to forget her son!
It is hard to believe that someone could forget a child but it does happen and no one can say that this will NEVER happen to them.
Please get in the habit of checking your back seat......................just in case!
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:53 AM
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So very sad and this mom will surely suffer the rest of her life over the guilt. It certainly does say something about our overly busy schedules, especially families whose parents work.
I don't think it says anything about our 'overly busy schedules'. Let's face it, that's a cop out because the previous generations worked much harder than this one and they didn't forget about their children.

I'm not even so sure the mother is racked with guilt. How many times in the past few years has this scene been reported? In most of the cases, the parent isn't charged because it's just assumed that it was a tragic mistake. What if it wasn't? What if it's just a new murder method? Susan Smith killed her children because she wanted to be free to pursue the man she wanted. Diane Downs did the same. 'The Black stranger abducted my children' alibi isn't going to work so well anymore.

The 'I forgot my child' excuse seems to be working much better. (Well, if you're a doctor or lawyer, that is). If a hairdresser from the ghetto tries it, she's arrested and Social Services shows up to take the other children out of the home.

I find it hard to believe that a doctor, lawyer, and educator can remember minute details relating to their professions but can't remember that they dressed their child. put them in the car and drove them across town. One maybe, not all. I think some of these people wanted their child to die.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:11 AM
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Has anyone ever had a two-year-old?? Come on! Between the constant chattering, the screaming, and the questions there is no way a 2-year-old would allow this...
the benefit of the doubt is that the baby was sleeping but again, she went out to her van several times so I don't believe for a minute she didn't know the baby was in the vehicle.
Wow...to be so self-absorbed to forget your baby. G0D knew that woman didn't deserve that precious child.
The good that came out of this story is that we, as people, know NEVER to leave our beautiful babies in the car even for just a minute...because you never know and why would you take that chance to lose your kids over a selfish act of convenience?
We live in a world different from the one we grew up in...our mothers did leave us in the car but the windows were already down because most cars didn't come standard with a/c. Also, this world is full of more evils than when we were kids. Now, you lock your doors even to go into the gas station to pay for your gas before you left your engine running and the pump attached to your car...why lock your door? Because someone is right around the corner waiting to steal your car...and what if you left your child in the car that one time when you ran into the gas station for just one minute?? Could you ever forgive yourself?? It's just NOT worth it! The life of a child is priceless...
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:10 AM
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When my kids were young, I talked or sang to them the whole time, I didn't just put them in the car and forget they were there. Especially a 2 year old, you'd think the little girl would be talking away. There is NO excuse for what she did.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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I agree that the "I forgot" defense is quickly becoming a get out of jail free pass for parents. I cannot imagine this was intentional, and have sympathy for this mother, but to have been warned three different times prior to this, and continue to do it, is beyond comprehension.
I also know some parents who choose to leave their children in the car if they fall asleep. Often they will pull the car in the garage, but I know some who will leave the car in the driveway, or the street of their in-laws homes, if the little one is asleep. They'll check on the child, but I just could never understand it. Makes me wonder if she left her in the car when she realized she had forgotten to drop her off, figuring she'd let her nap, and then got so caught up in the first day of school she just forgot.

And the analogy of leaving the purse in the car is one I've used often with people who I know will pull up the convenience store and "run in" while the kids sit in the car. Again, I don't get it.

Poor little one.
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This story makes me sick. What I don't understand is that the D.A. says there is nothing to charge her with. How about unintentional manslaughter or something like it? It's not the 1st time she left a child in the car alone.
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