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Old 09-28-2007, 05:17 PM
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Jena 6....

#1 Should the black boys have been charged as adults?

#2 Did the police go to easy on the white boys?

I would love to hear your thoughts on this case...

Do you think that this is going to lead to bigger problems with the stuff going on in Jena
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:08 PM
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#1 Should the black boys have been charged as adults? Yes. They're closer to being men than they are to being boys.

#2 Did the police go too easy on the white boys? No. At best, the noose was a poor joke, at worst, an implied threat and and an implied threat and the violent crime the Jenna Six commited aren't even comparable. At best, an implied threat is a misdemeanor and trying to beat someone to death is always a felony.

#3 Do you think that this is going to lead to bigger problems? It already has.

I find the whole situation sickening. 20,000 demonstrators from around the country marched through Louisiana to support these six just because they're Black. These demonstrators should be thinking of the students just as people and abhor what they did, not defend their actions just because they like their color. I think the 'boys' are violent monsters and wimps to boot and their parents are condoning their attrocious behavior. If the Black 'leaders' and columnists put a fraction of their energy into teaching their youth that violence isn't acceptable instead of always excusing it, then they would be doing this generation a tremendous favor.

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Old 09-28-2007, 06:48 PM
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#1 Should the black boys have been charged as adults? Yes. They're closer to being men than they are to being boys.

#2 Did the police go too easy on the white boys? No. At best, the noose was a poor joke, at worst, an implied threat and and an implied threat and the violent crime the Jenna Six commited aren't even comparable. At best, an implied threat is a misdemeanor and trying to beat someone to death is always a felony.

#3 Do you think that this is going to lead to bigger problems? It already has.

I find the whole situation sickening. 20,000 demonstrators from around the country marched through Louisiana to support these six just because they're Black. These demonstrators should be thinking of the students just as people and abhor what they did, not defend their actions just because they like their color. I think the 'boys' are violent monsters and wimps to boot and their parents are condoning their attrocious behavior. If the Black 'leaders' and columnists put a fraction of their energy into teaching their youth that violence isn't acceptable instead of always excusing it, then they would be doing this generation a tremendous favor.
I agree!!!!!!!
6 boys on one boy is disgusting no matter what the color....why Jesse and Al Sharpton rally around black people just because they are black is ridiculous and part of the race problem. I love what Bill Cosby has to say about the race problems, He is right on!!!
Hanging a noose was not cool at all but not as bad and beating someone up!!!!!
I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that until all the black leaders rally together and try to follow the suggestions of Bill Cosby, etc... race problems will always be here.... I dated a black man for several years and if I heard it once I heard it a hundred times - well, your ancestors weren't slaves, blah, blah, blah....Don't use something bad that happened in historty to justify behavior NOW. Get an education, a job, be responsible, get married before having children, take care of them if you have them, etc... That has NOTHING to do with slavery!!!! Go Bill Cosby!!!!
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:52 PM
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#1 Should the black boys have been charged as adults? Yes. They're closer to being men than they are to being boys.

#2 Did the police go too easy on the white boys? No. At best, the noose was a poor joke, at worst, an implied threat and and an implied threat and the violent crime the Jenna Six commited aren't even comparable. At best, an implied threat is a misdemeanor and trying to beat someone to death is always a felony.

#3 Do you think that this is going to lead to bigger problems? It already has.

I find the whole situation sickening. 20,000 demonstrators from around the country marched through Louisiana to support these six just because they're Black. These demonstrators should be thinking of the students just as people and abhor what they did, not defend their actions just because they like their color. I think the 'boys' are violent monsters and wimps to boot and their parents are condoning their attrocious behavior. If the Black 'leaders' and columnists put a fraction of their energy into teaching their youth that violence isn't acceptable instead of always excusing it, then they would be doing this generation a tremendous favor.
what's that sound? Oh yeah, thundering hoofbeats from the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse...

I agree with cougarskies--AGAIN! That has got to be a sign of something!
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#1. Absolutely, yes, they NEED to be charged as adults. It is sickening to hear what they did to this boy, beating him even after he was unconsious? Absolutely, the nooses were 100% wrong. However, we are civilized and DO NOT deal with something like that with a 6 on 1 beating.

Imagine the uproar if it had been 6 white boys beating a black boy? Would there be 20,000 people marching in FAVOR of the attackers? No. They would be marching that the white boys get the stiffest sentence possible. Sickening. I can't believe that many people condone the violence.

I have to say, the political deteriment is terrible for Obama. I was ready to vote for him...until I heard his comments over this situation. He says, "I am pleased that the Louisiana state appeals court recognized that the aggravated battery charge brought in this case was inappropriate" Ummm...they should have been charged with attempted murder!
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:03 PM
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Six against one is attempted murder if you ask me, no matter what color they are..and yes they are closer to adults than kids and should be charged as adults.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
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I am sure I will get flamed for these remarks, but oh well....thats why we live in America
I guess I am the only one so far that thinks the punishment these boys received was to harsh....lets remember that yes they did beat him up, was it right, no, but he also was released from the hospital and was well enough to go to a school function...
But I am not sure what you are saying- kaththeshopper, are you suggesting that all black men have kids and dont take care of them and dont have jobs? I know there are many men who have children, black, white, asian, hispanic, and there is laziness and deadbeats in all races. Not to mention eduacation....there are lots of dropouts, yes once again in all colors.
I dont agree with the slavery issue, that was way back then, when we werent around, and I cant help what happened, but I think its an issue of how you treat people it doesnt matter the race...in the dark we are all the same color, and last I knew we all bleed the same
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
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I am sure I will get flamed for these remarks, but oh well....thats why we live in America
I guess I am the only one so far that thinks the punishment these boys received was to harsh....lets remember that yes they did beat him up, was it right, no, but he also was released from the hospital and was well enough to go to a school function...
But I am not sure what you are saying- kaththeshopper, are you suggesting that all black men have kids and dont take care of them and dont have jobs? I know there are many men who have children, black, white, asian, hispanic, and there is laziness and deadbeats in all races. Not to mention eduacation....there are lots of dropouts, yes once again in all colors.
I dont agree with the slavery issue, that was way back then, when we werent around, and I cant help what happened, but I think its an issue of how you treat people it doesnt matter the race...in the dark we are all the same color, and last I knew we all bleed the same
I was using some of the phrases that Bill Cosby has used regarding young black men......get a job, get an education, take care of your children.....I didn't dream this up! 70% of black children have one parent.
When my ex boyfriend used to argue about race issues it always went back to basically telling me I didn't have a valid opinion because my ancestors weren't enslaved... from him I have learned this is a fairly common thought... I agree that it's how you treat people, not the race HOWEVER, that was not always his actions even though he probably would have agreed with that verbally in principle. Like I used to say "I can't help what happened generations past"....it was a way for him to have the last word and leave me no 'defense'. So glad I broke off that relationship a long time ago!!! He also said he understood why so many black people were glad OJ was found not guilty-to make up for all the injustices against the black people. He thought he killed them but it also didn't bother him that much that he got away with it for the above reasons. Last I knew two wrongs didn't make a right!
Six people against one-I don't care if the kid wasn't horribly injured, it's still AWFUL....
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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I am sure I will get flamed for these remarks, but oh well....thats why we live in America
I guess I am the only one so far that thinks the punishment these boys received was to harsh....lets remember that yes they did beat him up, was it right, no, but he also was released from the hospital and was well enough to go to a school function...
But I am not sure what you are saying- kaththeshopper, are you suggesting that all black men have kids and dont take care of them and dont have jobs? I know there are many men who have children, black, white, asian, hispanic, and there is laziness and deadbeats in all races. Not to mention eduacation....there are lots of dropouts, yes once again in all colors.
I dont agree with the slavery issue, that was way back then, when we werent around, and I cant help what happened, but I think its an issue of how you treat people it doesnt matter the race...in the dark we are all the same color, and last I knew we all bleed the same
Had it been 6 white teens that jumped a black boy---the black community as a whole would be up in arms screaming "hate crime!" And they would be demanding that the 6 white boys be tried and punished to the fullest extent possible.

And another thing: Has anyone listened to the mother of the one boy that was just released? "he's a good boy," "he was just pushed too far," "it wasn't his fault," etc. Plus, this was not the first instance that this young man was involved in a physical altercation! He has at least one other prior bad act against him!

The only thing I agree with you on is this shouldn't be about race--this is 6 individuals who ganged up and beat the snot out of one! Those 6 need to be held responsible for their behaviour and their actions.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:00 PM
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I couldn't have said it better myself kaththeshopper! I don't think I can think of bigger racists than al sharpton and the rev. I can't remember one time they stood up and said.. wait.. this black man was wrong.. all about image..
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I couldn't have said it better myself kaththeshopper! I don't think I can think of bigger racists than al sharpton and the rev. I can't remember one time they stood up and said.. wait.. this black man was wrong.. all about image..
Notice how quiet they were about the the Duke rape case allegations after it was discovered they did nothing wrong??? They had those boys in prison for life!!!!! Turns out they were completely innocent!
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:34 AM
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#1 Should the black boys have been charged as adults?

#2 Did the police go to easy on the white boys?

I would love to hear your thoughts on this case...

Do you think that this is going to lead to bigger problems with the stuff going on in Jena


1) No
2)YES
3) The Problem has never stop racist is everywhere not just in Jena but every where you go this case show you that this country will never chance we're living in the 20th century,this mess is yet going on.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:45 AM
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Notice how quiet they were about the the Duke rape case allegations after it was discovered they did nothing wrong??? They had those boys in prison for life!!!!! Turns out they were completely innocent!
you read my mind. didnt hear anything out of the REVafter it was shown she was lying about what happened.. Those guys did nothing wrong and almost went to prision for nothing.Never heard him saying he was sorry for pointing fingers at these guys . He pretty much ducked tail and ran.
I have read the Bill cosby thing too and he pretty much says it all.
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