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A Clinton pollster believes that 1/4 of Republican women will choose to vote for Mrs. Clinton. Seems like a fairly high number to me.

Assuming you disagree with her politics (although it is hard to disagree with somebody who has a knack for telling people what they want to hear... doh... didn't want my biases to come out), would you vote for her just because she is a a woman?

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not at all... just like I wouldn't vote for someone just because of party affiliation...

No I won't vote for her as a woman nor as a Democrat. I will vote for her since I feel she might be/could be/is more qualified than the others running.

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Same here...I do not vote for a certain party and I certainly would not vote for her..just because she is a woman.
But I will not be voting for her. The one I like right now is Ron Paul...not saying yet I am totally for him..but like him better than the rest.

ditto - I need to believe in what they're "selling"

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Absolutely not. I vote for whom I feel is closet to my political beliefs / interests. Hillary Clinton is not someone that I would even consider.

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No. You couldn't PAY me to vote for her. I look at all aspects of a candidate, including how they handle their personal lives (which I think tells a lot about how a person will handle business life). Mrs. Clinton fails my test....badly. Sadly, no one candidtae *yet* seems to be a really good person to vote for...either party

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Exactly, I completely agree.

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I would NEVER vote for her

She's done a lousy job as our state senator so I sure as heck wouldn't trust her to do a good job running our COUNTRY

This is just ONE of my views on good old Hillary !

I cannot vote for Hillary for president for a kazillion political reasons but the basic reason I cannot vote for her is because I am a woman and, as a woman, I want women in leadership roles that stand for integrity.
But my vote against Hillary is more basic or fundamental than that. To me, she violated her trust with her daughter and with most women. Her husband by all accounts was a philanderer. After his deception with interns became common knowledge and our children learned what was and what wasn't "sexual relations" on the nightly news, Hillary "stood" by her man. Ahhhh come on!!!
She stood by her chances at political success. She sold women out - in all walks of life, rich or poor. She sold us all out for chances of political success. Her actions said: take the abuse, the humiliation, the ridicule.
Besides, I don't want her husband back in the White House. Not ever! The "world" may hate us with President Bush, but we'd be the laughing stock of the world if Hillary were our president. I'll take their hate anyday over their ridicule and loathing because our president would be a woman with so little demonstrated respect for herself http://caulkischeap.files.wordpress....pg?w=240&h=413

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You took the words right out of my mouth! VERY well said!

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I am a Democrat and I hope that I don't have to vote for her! Not because of her personal life, which I feel is wrongly judged on, but her politics. I think the democratic candidate will be Obama, still not my choice, but I am only one vote. Hillary doesn't have 1/10 of the charisma that her husband has, and as a politician you need people to like you. I think she is very intelligent, I just don't think President is the right job for her, but thanks for applying!

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I hope I can vote if i get my citizenshipe by then.
would i vote for clinton just because she is a woman? no.
As i am sure african american will not be voting for obama for just the fact that he is black.

my point of view of the whole clinton issue: I do not care about what they are doing in their own bedroom,none of my business...
we had a president in france,mitterand,one of the best one overthere.he had a mistress and a daughter with her.we never knew about it until his funeral,when the mistress,the wife and the illegitimate daughter were there together.
the wife knew about it all along aI guess,but she stayed by him.
the contribution to the country and to the people that miterrand gave,were tremendous.but he was a wife cheater.but nobody cared,because it wasn't our business .private life is private....

that is teh same thing about religion,knowing a candidate 's religion is none of my business and won;t influence my vote.
I strongly believe in seperation of state and church....

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I'm a Republican and would NOT vote for her. No way, no how. I'll vote for someone who is closest to my political beliefs and Hillary is faaaaar from them! LOL

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No, I would not vote for her simply because she's a woman. I'm NOT voting for her because I do not agree with her political/personal/moral beliefs. I haven't made my mind up as to whom I'm voting for but I do know it will not be Mrs. Clinton.

not a chance..

I would not vote for her just because she is a woman, but I would vote for her anyway because I don't agree with her views.

I am surprised with a few of the inferences made here that you know what the Clintons' marriage is about, and that Hilary is actually immoral for staying in a marriage to a morally compromised man.

Hmmmmm. I don't pretend to know how they handled that (and likely other) problems. I see a woman who took a vow when she married a man, and is sticking by her vows. I would never judge a person for staying in a marriage with a confessed philanderer. And I certainly don't assume to know the state of that marriage right now.

I will make my decision based on what that person says they will do as president. As a country, we are in pretty rough shape as I see it. While I'm disturbed that the rest of the world sees us in poor light right now, I'm even more disturbed by my OWN perspective. Our policies on education are horrific. The "No Child Left Behind" act has done so much more harm than good. The amount of money we've spent on this war is revolting. I could go on and on.

Clinton and Edwards are my two favorites to get us back on track. And if they team up and get on the same ticket, so much the better. Obama is also interesting to me, but a little too vague on the issues that matter to me.

Just MHO

devinmom,

here is why I feel her staying in a cheating marriage is important:

if she accepts her husband cheating on her as okay...that says A LOT to me. Now, if she were an everyday person, I could personally care less. BUT...she isnt'. She is a political figure and running for president. They *supposedly* took vows to be faithful to each other. She did not break those vows (that I know of), but he did (more than once) and she accepted that and stood by him despite his lies and break of vows. Now, here is why it's important. If she will accept that behavior from her husband (who made the vow to God I am assuming in a church...), than what will she accept from other countries? If they lie and break contracts, will that be okay wtih her? What kind of lies and deceiptfulness will be okay for her (or anyone else to do) since lying and cheating on your spouse is okay? I wouldn't hold it against any "normal" worman because their decisions in their marriage and life don't affect me personally BUT her's would as president. I wouldn't trust any person as president who tolerated cheating...not just Mrs. Clinton. She is just the prime example in this case and as always...just my opinion

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No! not because she is a woman :

No , not for any reason!
Not in my life time!
Not in her life time!
Not in your life time:

Can you tell I don't want Hillary??? I also don't want Bill back in the White House!

Sexysmurf,

I can see your point. You expressed it very well, and it's a tough argument for me! However, Here's my take.

Hilary's choice to stay in a marriage where the other party was unfaithful might imply that she would continue alignments with others who reneaged on their promises in presidential/national/global situations.

But I choose to look at it this way: Hilary took a vow, and stood by HER commitment to be faithful, and to remain in a marriage "for better or for worse." The implication for me is that she is more likely than most to stick to her promises made in this presidential campaign. If her word means that much to her, and she's willing to take another oath (on a bible, if she is sworn in as president, as she did in her marriage), then I have to have faith that she'll stay true to her word as president, too.

Again, IMHO.

Point taken but I still have to stand to my position If I say too much more on the subject, I feel like some could take personal offense and that's not what I want

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NO WAY. I have nothing against a woman becoming president, but she really scares the heck out of me.

Your bias was obvious when you called her Mrs. Clinton instead of Senator Clinton.

I would vote for her if she gave me 10,000 dollars.

Dolly, according to Senator clinton, for every child born in the US, she will give you 5,000$. I guess for 10,000 you will have to have 2 more kids....lol

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I completely agree!

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No, I wouldnt vote for her. It doesnt matter that she is a woman. I just dont agree with her stance on a lot of issues. I didnt really like her when she was first lady and my opinion has not changed much.

I have not decided who I will be voting for yet and I do not vote along party lines. I vote for the person who best matches my ideas and beliefs.

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So, after reading every comment on this thread, so far...I seems like no-one is going to vote for Hillary Clinton.

And it's not just MyCoupons members, it seems to be across the Internet, in email, and general discussion that no-one likes her or her campaign platform.

According to Gallop on 10/10/08, 47% of the Democratic voters are going to vote for Hillary.

So where are all these people that say they are going to vote for her? Where are the pollsters taking their polls?

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I know a lot of people that are planning on voting for Sen. Clinton, I was one of them up until a few months ago. I now support Biden, and hope he wins the nomination ( but I doubt it) And if she wins the Democratic nomination I will probably vote for her, unless there is an independent that I like more. Even though I'm not a fan of hers, I think my political beliefs will line up more with Clinton then the republican nominee.

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Well I will vote for her if she becomes the nominee. I will vote for any Dem that gets picked to run. Most of us feel no need to put our two cents worth into a discussion like this because it doesn't change anyone's mind. There is no changing the minds of some, so it's a waste of time to try.

Like the idea stated previously that the world would laugh at us because of Bill's morals and her refusal to leave him. The world is laughing at us not because of that, but because they can't believe that anyone would even take that into consideration when choosing who to vote for. The world laughs at us because of so many of us have puritanical ideas that they just don't understand. The world laughs because they think we have a nimcompoop for a leader. But they don't laugh because they think our leaders private lives reflect on their ability to be president. We have had good leaders whose private lives were less than perfect, (for example, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Reagan. We have had lousy leaders who on the surface have perfect private lives. Most of the time one has nothing to do with the other.

This is quite stupido i must say. I wouldn't vote for that hussy but have to remember all said the same before she became a senator of NY. If she runs, she wins. Guilliani is an adulterer and no better. I wish my bambino was old enough to run, he'd make a fine traditional president and has military experience^^

President Bush has military experience as well (sort of) , but that doesn't seem to help him be a qualified President.

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No kidding!! Did anyone watch Lou Dobbs tonight? I wouldn't vote for the chick ever.......

Never in a million years!!!!!!!!!!! The thoughts of her being President literally turns my stomach...>Sheri

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I would vote for her. Not because she's a woman though.

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Well said!
Same here.

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Exactly how I have felt for the last 7 years. When the Alfred E. Neuman smirky look-alike comes on TV, we both run for the remote.

Never.not.even.if.she.was.the.only.candidate.

I'm sorry, Senator Clinton. I made the mistake of thinking Mrs. Clinton versus Hilary was a term of respect. I should have referred to her as Senator Clinton, you are absolutely right.

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No, I won't be voting for Sen. Clinton. First of all because my beliefs do not line up with what she stands for and second because she is a woman. I know this is not a popular stance, but I really don't think that a woman would make a good leader, particularly at that level.

I have no idea who I will vote for. Like some others, I think we'll just have to wait and see how things pan out. It will be interesting for sure!!!

a like minded soul^^

Why do you feel a woman would not make a good leader at that level?

I won't vote for anyone based on their race, sex, religion, creed or party affiliation. I will vote for the person who I feel is the best candidate for the job.

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After reading all your responses, I'm surprised. According to the media, not only has she won, she's picking out new curtains for the Oval Office. Perhaps they are not quite on the track they should be?

I just think that women are not wired to lead the way men are. It's the way we're made, we were created differently for a reason. I know it sounds very old fashioned, but it's the way I feel. I also don't think that women belong in combat for some of the same reasons.

I'm not saying that there isn't a woman who couldn't possibly do a better job than some of the male candidates, in fact if I had to choose between Clinton and Guiliani, it would be a very difficult choice.

I am being very careful here because I know that this belief is unpopular. I know I didn't give you enough reasons but I'm being wary......

No, your answer was fine...I was wondering if you had "new" reasons, vs. the "old" reasons. It's your opinion and I respect your opinion. I don't have to agree, but I do respect your opinion.

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Wow, that's news to me. What media? Was it on tv? In the neswpaper? She's picking out curtains to the Oval Office? Can you please post the link? I'd like to read that.

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I think the poster was maybe overstating, lol, however the media does seem quite convinced she has a better chance than most. I believe they might be speaking too soon.


SLW1.......the line about the curtains was funny........

Yeah it's the same talking point many of the Repubs and Pres Bush used during the last election.
Funny.

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Sen Clinton has raised more money then any other candidate, I believe. And I think the media highlights and talks about her more often since she is a more recognizable name, and there is controversy about her. But as for her picking out curtains LOL Please don't you remember her interview in 1991 when she said she wasn't the homemaker type, I'm sure her designer would be picking out the curtains. Which I am pretty sure she hasn't hired yet.

I just hope other Democrats hopefuls start picking up there game, otherwise there is a good chance she will be the democratic nominee. Her husband ( President Clinton....who I adore) is a great asset when it comes to campaigning and strategy. If Obama, Edwards or Biden want a chance they need to start getting more buzz, Obama seemed for awhile he was going to be real contender but you don't hear much about him anymore.

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I just want to say one quick thing. Women can be awesome leaders. Look at Margret Thatcher. Look at the brave lady facing death in Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto. Historically women have proven again and again that they have what it takes. Now, whether this particular woman does is something the country will need to decide and then judge. Personally, I have serious questions about her ethics, but then I guess you just can't rise to the top of politics in our country by being pristine.

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I'm pretty split but vote more democrat lately. I will NOT be voting for Hillary. I just can't stand her!

Right or wrong, I'll bet anybody that Hillary will end up being president. If nothing else but for the fact that she is controversial. Remember, after all Bill did, he was reelected. Above all , he is so charismatic. And no doubt, that is one smart woman. Her personal life may be in a shambles (just our public opinion, we really don't know what goes on behind closed doors- the Clintons are both too smart for us to know anything they don't want us too), but she is by all accounts HIGHLY intelligent. I am a Republican, but if I had to bet on it she would be the winner.

I'm with Greg. Of COURSE women can lead - it's actually social conditioning that causes many people to feel that men are the better leaders. Some of the best, most influential leaders in history have been women, which is itself an amazing thing, when you consider how few women ever get the chance.

There are TOO many poor male leaders in charge right now to maintain the lame theory that they are inherantly better at it than women.

And what gender do you think is behind the social conditioning... HELLO!!

Of course this is all, IMH(female)O...

I don't vote along party lines & I would NOT vote for Clinton regardles of which party she represented. She has way too much baggage. I just do not trust her.

I am from Arkansas and suffered through the looong Clinton years they were in office here--Governor; I have met him and actually do know quite a few of his first and 2nd cousins as they are from a neighboring town that I grew up in. I am a Republican and can't stand the Clintons politics for the most part (however I do think Hillary is very intelligent and may be the most qualified to run for President out of all of them, I hate to say that; I do believe she will get the Democratic nomination and will probably actually win the office--I will not vote for her however as I can't stand the lies and her political views, and I know she has already said she is planning to raise raise raise the taxes again--end all of the tax cuts out there now--not to mention I agree with you guys--we've had enough Clintons in the White House and it's time to MOVE ON), but I don't think that Bill Clinton was the worst president the Country has ever had (um, minus all the scandal--I'm talking the things that were accomplished/put into place while he was president/in office). I'm NOT saying he was the best either, however. By far. At this point, I am seriously unhappy (once again) with all of the candidates on both the Republican and Democrat sides. I feel it is going to be another "lesser of evils" vote. I do hope that some other candidates come forward quickly (NOT Al Gore however--eeeeekkkk). The shape our Country is in now, and all of the very difficult decisions to be made with the war and other things, we better all think long and hard and get someone GREAT in office, JMO. I sure do hope that person exists. Also, while I know that a woman from the U.S. can certainly be very qualified to be leader of this country, I would not vote for Sen. Clinton just because I feel it's time to put a woman in that office. I think man or woman, they need to be qualified; now more than ever.

Thank you for all your contributions, this post is now being closed due to length. Please feel free to continue your discussion with a new post...........Karrie

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