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Old 10-21-2007, 05:05 PM
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NY says illegal immigrants can drive legally?

New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has started a major political fight over immigration by ordering state officials to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, prompting at least one county legislature to defy the executive order and pushing toward a showdown in court.
Illegals OK'd to drive in N.Y.*-*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

I understand why people would love to come to our country. We are the land of opportunity. Unfortunately, opportunity is hard to come by south of our border. I don't understand, however, how folks who have come into our country illegally can be provided with the legal right to drive. I thought Spitzer was a law and order kind of guy.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:14 PM
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I agree. Just remember this is the state that elected Sen. Clinton, who was not a resident of NY.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:34 PM
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I thought George W. Bush was a law and order kind of guy, too, but he's the one that wants to allow illegals to stay and refuses to deport them. If Bush isn't going to bother to enforce the law, what kind of example does that set? What are states to do with all these illegal immigrants?
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:36 PM
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I agree. Just remember this is the state that elected Sen. Clinton, who was not a resident of NY.
Where exactly WAS she a resident, then?
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:40 PM
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I just don't understand this.....if you are here illegaly, how can you do anything legally......?
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:48 PM
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:02 PM
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Agreed. George W leaves a bit to be desired in a president. I just thought that sovereign nations had a right to have secured borders. Who the heck is for that now a days?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Where exactly WAS she a resident, then?
The White House.......I don't know and didn't say I did. I don't remember from that time frame, it just struck me that she could decide to run representing a state she didn't live in (presumably Arkansas would have been their residency since he was governor there prior to the White House bid). At the time, I understood you could run to represent any state, that residency wasn't a requirement.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:21 PM
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I just don't understand this.....if you are here illegaly, how can you do anything legally......?
If you are having construction done in your home, or landscaping or anything, you should ask the contractor or company if they hire "ILLEGAL" Mexicans. If the answer is YES, then you should hang up and go with a company that does not hire them. Americans need the work and deserve the work. We are the ones who pay taxes.

Giving these illegals licenses just proves that the people running things don't care about the working American..... Don't you need a "Real" social security number to get a license?

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Old 10-21-2007, 06:40 PM
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If you are having construction done in your home, or landscaping or anything, you should ask the contractor or company if they hire Mexicans. If the answer is YES, then you should hang up and go with a company that does not hire them.
So if a company hires Mexicans, you should not do business with them?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:53 PM
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The governor called it a “common sense change” that will improve traffic safety and lower insurance costs for all New Yorkers by ensuring that more immigrants have valid licenses and auto insurance. Giving more immigrants verifiable identification will also enhance law enforcement by bringing people out of the shadows.

This is a lesson completely lost. The 9/11 terrorists worked the system to get Virginia drivers licenses. With that, they were able to get around the country and board the planes on the day of the attack. These documents are a free pass to roam around the country, Dont ya think ?

One issue not really addressed it the quality of the documents presented to DMV for issuance of a drivers license. In some cases you have fraudulent documents used to obtain a valid license. there is no longer a need to pull out the fake documents. If they get caught for anything.

Maryland already does this and the illegals in the area know that Maryland is the place to live or at least get your drivers license. There is no fear of being caught by immigration authorities .

N.Y. will be the Illegal Immigrant Sanctuary

has anyone ever driven the streets of manhatten, just what we need is more cars.....lol
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:14 PM
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Just remember to use our coupon codes... we are all Americans here at MyCoupons Support America, use our codes!
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:36 PM
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I just don't understand this.....if you are here illegaly, how can you do anything legally......?
exactly! How insane!

BTW: I do not hire any companies to do work for me that hire illegals
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:50 PM
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So if a company hires Mexicans, you should not do business with them?
ABSOLUTELY!! Glad to get my point across!!
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:52 PM
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Just remember to use our coupon codes... we are all Americans here at MyCoupons Support America, use our codes!
If the Illegals are taking over the working class jobs, then even a coupon code won't mke it possible to buy something!
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The cutest mexican boy cuts my lawn. I don't know if he is an illegal or not but he don't charge much and can't get husband to ever cut it.
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ABSOLUTELY!! Glad to get my point across!!
Uhuh....
So to clarify - is this criteria for ALL businesses? Like Blockbuster, Post Office, sports teams, the attorney general's office, -- if they have Mexicans working there you should not do business with them?
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:16 PM
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:21 PM
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Touche........... I was just thinking the same thing..lol..... I'm sorry that wasnt nice
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:28 PM
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Uhuh....
So to clarify - is this criteria for ALL businesses? Like Blockbuster, Post Office, sports teams, the attorney general's office, -- if they have Mexicans working there you should not do business with them?
To me, it's businesses that have ILLEGAL's working for them (mexican or not) that I don't like to do business with. A lot of the businesses you listed wouldn't have illegal mexican's working for them, they would be legal. I am hoping that is what the other poster meant...illegal mexican's...not mexican's in general
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:31 PM
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To me, it's businesses that have ILLEGAL's working for them (mexican or not) that I don't like to do business with. A lot of the businesses you listed wouldn't have illegal mexican's working for them, they would be legal. I am hoping that is what the other poster meant...illegal mexican's...not mexican's in general

That's not what she posted though, and that's why I asked her to clarify.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:35 PM
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Sorry, Yes I did mean illegals. Thanks for the check. I edited my first statement....
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:00 PM
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glad we got that figured out
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:40 PM
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We just had two of our high school girls killed in a car accident-they were hit by an illegal immigrant, driving drunk. It hit national news--one girl went to my son's high school. She and her best friend were in the car at the time. The ironic thing, is that as best friends, one girl's mom was dating the other girl's dad. This guy had been arrested 3X for drunken driving...It just makes me sick--here is the story....
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:02 AM
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I thought George W. Bush was a law and order kind of guy, too, but he's the one that wants to allow illegals to stay and refuses to deport them. If Bush isn't going to bother to enforce the law, what kind of example does that set? What are states to do with all these illegal immigrants?
I know this is going to shock you, because you and I seldom agree but..... I agree with you on this one!!!!! Sherri
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:45 AM
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The White House.......I don't know and didn't say I did. I don't remember from that time frame, it just struck me that she could decide to run representing a state she didn't live in (presumably Arkansas would have been their residency since he was governor there prior to the White House bid). At the time, I understood you could run to represent any state, that residency wasn't a requirement.
NY WAS their residence when she ran. They purchased a home there in September, 1999, over a year before the Senate election. IIRC, they never even owned a home in Arkansas.
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