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Old 10-23-2007, 08:04 PM
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Breitbart.tv » Rep. Pete Stark Apologizes for Bush Insult as Censure Vote Falls Short

I guess the Dem leaders twisted his arm until the pain was unbearable... In any case Stark apologizes for his remarks about heads being blown off for the President's enjoyment. It is good to see more rational leadership within one of our two parties.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:10 PM
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Breitbart.tv » Rep. Pete Stark Apologizes for Bush Insult as Censure Vote Falls Short

I guess the Dem leaders twisted his arm until the pain was unbearable... In any case Stark apologizes for his remarks about heads being blown off for the President's enjoyment. It is good to see more rational leadership within one of our two parties.

I admire the Congressman for admitting he stepped over the line (although I agreed with most of what he said). I doubt his accepting responsibility for his words will set a precedent on either side. Besides which, there isn't enough time left in his term of office for President Bush to apologize for every lie he's told or stupid remark he's made during the past 6 plus years. IMO, of course.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:16 PM
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Bush? We were discussing Bush?
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:19 PM
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Bush? We were discussing Bush?
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Breitbart.tv » Rep. Pete Stark Apologizes for Bush Insult as Censure Vote Falls Short

I guess the Dem leaders twisted his arm until the pain was unbearable... In any case Stark apologizes for his remarks about heads being blown off for the President's enjoyment. It is good to see more rational leadership within one of our two parties.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:37 PM
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and just how many little girls has he hid in closets with in the oval office???
others need to apologize too! everyone always acts like only the republicans know how to lie!
guess what it was a democrat that got us into the great vietnam fiasco!
I don't agree with everything PRESIDENT Bush has done but crapp the democratic presidents have been just as bad! no worse no better!
and even though I did not like former president clinton I will still give him the honor of calling him president not just clinton or bush!
flame me I really don't care! what I do care a bout is that I love my country and take pride in it and don't try to chew it up bite by bite just because I don't agree with everything!
I'm proud to have a grandson who is in Iraq right now and he believes in what he is doing is right! and he like many many service people will tell you our news is not reporting any of the good stuff we are doing there! and I say to that shame on them they are basically tearing apart our country for a story!
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:46 PM
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and even though I did not like former president clinton I will still give him the honor of calling him president not just clinton or bush!
Any title should be used as a sign of respect. Respect is EARNED, and should not freely given. And as soon as Dubya does something to earn MY respect; I retain the right to refer to him in whatever manner I see fit.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:45 AM
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Actually the correct title for Clinton is former President Clinton, and while Bush may not have "earned" respect on a personal level, he did earn the title of President with election and it is his title, and thus should be referred to as President Bush.

I can see the blurb about a political board coming in December is already in effect mcgreg is making the cafe a political board on his own.

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:31 AM
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I was sorry to see Stark apologize. I don't think he said anything wrong or inaccurate.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:50 AM
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I can see the blurb about a political board coming in December is already in effect mcgreg is making the cafe a political board on his own.
I noticed this as well.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:07 AM
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This may be taking it too far, I don't know. But a lot of web sites are saying he should be charged with treason.


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Breitbart.tv » Rep. Pete Stark Apologizes for Bush Insult as Censure Vote Falls Short

I guess the Dem leaders twisted his arm until the pain was unbearable... In any case Stark apologizes for his remarks about heads being blown off for the President's enjoyment. It is good to see more rational leadership within one of our two parties.
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I too agreed with alot of the Rep's comments but I did think it too far...

as far as the respect goes... I respect the office but not always the person in the office

Squeak... you are absolutely right about them not reporting the whole story of what is happening in Iraq... it is all about what will sell in the media (how often do we hear of the "good things" happening in our own country)... I have survived 3 deployments... my dad has been twice and in between he tag teamed my brother... I have been fortunate not to have my dh go (*yet*) but I know its coming one day...

ETA: I'm looking forward to a political discussion board... I love a good debate...

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Old 10-24-2007, 12:51 PM
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This may be taking it too far, I don't know. But a lot of web sites are saying he should be charged with treason.
OMG, I just spit out my Diet Coke laughing! What the heck websites are calling for him to be charged with treason??? That's beyond silly.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:27 PM
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and just how many little girls has he hid in closets with in the oval office???

I thought Monica was a grown woman? You act as if our former President was some sort of pedophile hiding little kids in the closet. Granted she was younger than him, but I seriously doubt anyone would consider her a little girl.

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:13 PM
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I thought Monica was a grown woman? You act as if our former President was some sort of pedophile hiding little kids in the closet. Granted she was younger than him, but I seriously doubt anyone would consider her a little girl.
she was just 20 and he was 48 I consider that a little girl barely out of teens she was young enough to be his child! you may consider that a grown woman but I do not, especially when she was influenced by the glamor of his position!
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:33 PM
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she was just 20 and he was 48 I consider that a little girl barely out of teens she was young enough to be his child! you may consider that a grown woman but I do not, especially when she was influenced by the glamor of his position!
Sigh, not that it will make a whit of difference but she was 22, hardly a "little girl... ".
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:34 PM
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she was just 20 and he was 48 I consider that a little girl barely out of teens she was young enough to be his child! you may consider that a grown woman but I do not, especially when she was influenced by the glamor of his position!
20 isn't a grown woman? Oh please. By the time I was 20, I was paying my own bills, VOTING, living on my own, and making my own decisions.

And not only was she 20, but she was a White House Intern. Do you have any idea what it takes to become an intern? Monica was no schlub or bubble headed idiot....and far from a little girl.

How did this become about a former President anyway? Let's go back to Dems, treason, and the McGreg Political Borad topic....that all made MUCH more sense than calling a 20 year old woman a "little girl." Sheesh...
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:00 PM
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How did this become about a former President anyway?
Don't you know that everything always comes back to Clinton? When I see a political or sexual, or almost any thread that might cause disagreement, I count the posts until someone just can not restrain themself and have to bring up Clinton. It's sort of like a tic I guess. Just can't help it. Of course I plan to spend the next 15 years doing the same thing with the current White House occupant. I figure after hearing Clinton blamed for every thing wrong in the world for so many years that now it must be my turn to lay some blame.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:21 PM
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... bring up Clinton. ... .

Careful, that's how Monica got brought into the thread.
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Do you have any idea what it takes to become an intern? Monica was no schlub or bubble headed idiot....and far from a little girl.
I have to disagree with these assertions.

I believe that the main thing it takes to get an internship is well-connected parents. I am not under the impression that Monica was a child political science guru. I believe a well-connected insurance zillionaire who happened to be a good friend of Monica's mother was instrumental in getting her an unpaid intern job. This gentleman was a huge donor to the Democratic party.

I am sure there are interns in the Bush White House who also got their jobs because of their connections. It's not unusual, and not even necessarily untoward. But the question posed - "Do you have any idea what it takes to become an intern?" - has an answer, and that answer is cold hard cash.

I do think she was a bubble headed idiot. Most all of us heard the taped conversations between she and Linda Tripp. The frantic crying, worried about her "relationship" with him, believing he was going to leave Hillary for her once he was out of the White House, her repeated blabbing about their sexual encounters....

Those were not the composed and controlled communications you'd expect from a seasoned and experienced adult. They were the undisciplined ramblings of a star-struck, infatuated almost-teen who didn't have as much sense as my goldfish.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:46 AM
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Those were not the composed and controlled communications you'd expect from a seasoned and experienced adult. They were the undisciplined ramblings of a star-struck, infatuated almost-teen who didn't have as much sense as my goldfish.
And I have seen women twice her age and more, act the same way. Age has nothing to do with being a fool. Many of us are capable of that until the day we die. Just watch a few episodes of Jerry Springer if you doubt me.

What he did was not nice, but it is not the be-all, end-all of horrible activities. What she did was foolish, but the same applies. The woes of western civilization do not rest on their shoulders as some would have us believe by their repeated assertions that it does.
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