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Old 11-15-2007, 04:21 PM
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Hoarders on Oprah

Anyone else watching this? Can you believe her house?? OMG!! I thought I bought a lot of stuff!
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:33 PM
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I so wanted to see this but I had to be somewhere at that time. The previews were really sad. Whenever I see something like this I wish I could tell them about flylady.net. How did the house look after they cleaned it out? It seems that unless hoarders get therapy, they will just revert to their hoarding ways and the house will start to fill up with trash again.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:38 PM
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That's ok...part 2 is on tomorrow!
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:53 PM
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This lady was WAY past help from fly lady.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:29 AM
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I could not believe that her husband allowed it to get this bad! Also, there is not way I believe that she is NOT going to go right back to where she was......I am really waiting for a follow-up on this in a year or two. How much money was "invested" in her saving all that money she claims to have saved? She really needs therapy!
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:33 AM
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I kept thinking of the poster who bought enough presents to fill a dozen storage containers and is done shopping for this year's Christmas and next. That has got to take up a lot of space!

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Old 11-16-2007, 08:36 AM
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She did talk to a therapist.
He felt she was doing a lot better.
Let's hope he was right!
I had an uncle like that.
He didn't throw anything away.
His big thing was books tho.
He read everything and anything.
They were in his kitchen cupboards, his china cabinet, on the sides of the steps going upstairs, everywhere and in every room.
He had a big house. Just before he moved, he was living in a tiny spot in an upstairs apartment in the back of his house.
He sold his house cheap and the man who bought it had to deal with most everything.
My bro and I went to his house and took out what we wanted (I got the beautiful china cabinet, even tho the shelves are still warped from the heavy books).
He knew where everything was tho!
He gave his coin and stamp collection to my bro and knew right where to find them.
We both took all the books that we wanted and my grandmother's quilts that he had and a few other things, but it didn't even make a dent.
He dontaed all the leftover books to the library. I don't know if they took them all, I can't imagine that they would have had enough room without adding on!
He moved into a small apartment but started doing the same thing!
When he passed away and we had to go and take care of his things, it took 3 of us working about 12 hours a day 2.5 days to do it all. And this was a tiny apartment. Tiny!
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:06 AM
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My mom is a hoarder. she is 100 X worse than the woman on Oprah. My mom has been a hoarder for going on 35 years. You CANNOT talk sense to a hoarder. They will fight you tooth and nail if you try and clean up the house. My mom would save food boxes..like prepare a cake mix and then keep the box. She had bizarre thougthts. Like if she threw away the box, a baby would be inside..or if she threw out an old pair of panty house, a $100 bill would be stuck to it. She had to " go thru" trash..to make sure nothing was thrown out by accident.. It is a form of OCD. Luckily my mom lives on a farm and my dad and sister threw most of the trash out in the barn for her to " go thru"
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:10 PM
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They filled 1800 totes with her stuff

They held a rummage sale of her stuff and made over $13,000.

They had to re-do 75% of her house because it had black mold growing in it -- even in the walls. At the bottom of one of the HUGE piles of stuff, the mold had actually made the carpet "grow" into the floor. Yuck.

Lots of the stuff had mildewed and there were mouse "nests". Yuck.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:29 PM
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I actually cried when they went into the warehouse and showed the family just how much stuff there was. This show made me want to purge my house of everything and I am not a hoarder by any stretch of the imagination. I just hope she can keep it up. The place was beautiful when they were finished. I like how they kept stressing the importance of family over stuff and quality over quantity. Hopefully, they have a good support system in place for them -- they will need it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:35 PM
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I saw a show on hoarders on the discovery channel (I think) a while ago. I di dnot see the Oprah show. One thing I think people are not realizing is that hoarders suffer from a disease. It is a form of mental illness. The worst thing anyone can do is to completely take it all away at once. They will do it again, and it will be worse the next time. My husband's father has a form of this. He is not really bad in the house, but he has a couple of storage sheds that he keeps "junk" (to you and me) in.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:38 PM
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I would like to know how much money she SPENT on all that stuff! Wasn't it amazing when they went in the warehouse and then showed the whole second section full of stuff!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:05 PM
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link to today show.

Get Health, Beauty, Recipes, Money, Decorating and Relationship Advice on Oprah.com.

Her DH kept 35 yrs of old receipts.He wanted to check them all and then shred them.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:03 PM
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I had an owner occupied 2 family on one of my routes. The owners lived upstairs, tenant down. He was very 'private' and didn't want them in his apt. He never had maintenance issues that he told them of. He dropped dead one day in the
local supermarket. He had no local family. When the owners went into the apt, they nearly dropped as well . He was a hoarder that had stuff everywhere piled to the ceiling. His favorite items were vhs and dvd tapes. He didn't have a player of either type. they had no clue this was going on, they previously thought he was the perfect tenant. It cost them thousands in clean-up and lost rent.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:43 PM
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I missed this one. I really wanted to see it, too. Shows like this make me scale down even more. I am not a collector of anything, and can't stand clutter. But, I like to watch shows like this to keep me motivated and not collect stuff. To me, less is more.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:51 AM
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They filled 1800 totes with her stuff

They held a rummage sale of her stuff and made over $13,000.

They had to re-do 75% of her house because it had black mold growing in it -- even in the walls. At the bottom of one of the HUGE piles of stuff, the mold had actually made the carpet "grow" into the floor. Yuck.

Lots of the stuff had mildewed and there were mouse "nests". Yuck.
Yes, they had 1800 totes of stuff and filled two warehouse rooms AND STILL HAD 75 TONS OF STUFF THEY THREW AWAY BESIDES THAT!!!!!
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:25 AM
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Hey, I far prefer someone hoarding stuff rather than cats and dogs.....that's the one the really makes me sick, when they find some old woman living with a gajillion cats and surrounded by animal feces. Both of them are a mental illness that needs treatment, imo.

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:51 AM
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Hey, I far prefer someone hoarding stuff rather than cats and dogs.....that's the one the really makes me sick, when they find some old woman living with a gajillion cats and surrounded by animal feces. Both of them are a mental illness that needs treatment, imo.

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You're right. I see this on Animal Cops on Animal Planet all the time. It's sad, they think they are saving them.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:36 AM
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I would love to help someone out like that.
I know if my laundry piles up over a couple loads I feel an overwhelming sense of ACK where do I go from here and ignore it for a few hours/days- I cant imagine if my whole house got crazy,...

They need someone to come and help them purge once every week or maybe every few days.
It might help them?

I hope they can keep their clutter down!! I got stressed just watching that show
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:23 PM
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Hey, I far prefer someone hoarding stuff rather than cats and dogs.....that's the one the really makes me sick, when they find some old woman living with a gajillion cats and surrounded by animal feces. Both of them are a mental illness that needs treatment, imo.

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I second that one! We had a "Cat" woman who lived up the street who passed away last year, and when they went in the home, they found over 50 indoor cats, and the house, well. let's just say it didn't smell so great
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