Okay, this is particularly for all of you who flamed me for the post regarding the 29 lb 6 month old baby. although, I hate to be a 'told you so' kinda person... Simply because I showed sincere concern for this situation and others here thought that I was 'meddling' or causing trouble or messing up the future lives of a family. As it turns out, my fears have come true and I didn't have to say a word. As it turns out, other family members were concerned too. The grandmother of the child went as far as to move in with the couple to 'see' what may be going on. And it probably is a good thing that she did.

Unfortunately, Caleb went into cardiac failure Sunday night/Monday AM. He had also been having difficulty breathing and was having severe asthma attacks for the last couple of days. The mother was questioned by officials. The grandmother of this child (who resides with the mother/child/father) reported to officials that she has witnessed the mother FORCE food into the child's mouth on more than one occasion. She also reported at the time of the incident in which Caleb was rushed to the hospital, she had overheard on the baby monitor a muffled type choking noise, so she went into the doorway of the child's bedroom, where she saw mom physically forcing jarred baby food in the child's mouth along with some kind of cracker puffed food while holding her cuffed hands over his mouth and nose. This incident led to Caleb becoming severly choked. A barium swallow test shows a signficant amount of food/fluids in the baby's windpipe, as well as the x-rays showed particles of such in his lungs which were more than likely present prior to this episode. It was determined by the physician treating him at the hospital that the amount of food and the method of feedings has led to a number of ailments for Caleb. Later on the night of this incident, Caleb went into cardiac failure. As of today he remains unconscious and hooked up to machines and is intensive care. The prognosis at this point is unclear.

I know many of you don't "KNOW" me here, but I would never jump to conclusions or make such an accusation without really feeling a cause for concern. Regardless, of that, there is no one here that can or will convince me that it is healthy for a six month baby to weigh 29 lbs. (Especially in this case where the child only weighed 5 lbs at his premature birth.) You have a right to think that's an okay weight, just as I have a right to think that it is not. We can simply agree to disagree on that.

This is a sad update, but there were a couple of others who felt the same way about this situation as I did and wanted to let them know what has evolved in the last few days. In addition, I posted this to ask for prayers for Caleb. He has already endured more than most of us here in his short time. From what I understand, it may take a miracle to get him through this. I personally believe in prayers and miracles, so if you can add Caleb in your prayers, it will greatly be appreciated.

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it's obvious to me from what your saying the mother had some sort of mental illness....

and yeah, you did post to say "I told you so"....but the scenario you posted NOW, does seem a bit different than what you posted then. Your post then seemed to be focused on the child's weight.

I still stand by my original posts--if you or someone else was concerned, then get involved (as the grandmother did)

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I was focused on the baby's weight. I still standby saying that a six month old is not at a healthy weight when weighing in at 29 lbs and why does this child weigh that much because the mom was force feeding the baby, just as I said in the Original post. Whether or not mom had a problem doesn't matter. The point is she was overfeeding this baby.....and you are also right, I did post this in part as a I told you so.
AND for the record, I am posting this NOW, because I didn't know the extinct before, or else I would have posted that too.

Again, I will say that we all can agree to disagree on the weight issue.

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Sometimes our instincts are right on target. Poor little thing...mother must be very sick.

I'll certainly keep a prayer for this little one. Please let us know how he is.

Sending prayers to poor Caleb . and to the mother in hopes she will get the help she needs !

Sending prayers to Caleb and praying that the mother gets the help she needs I am going to assume that CPS has been contacted now and the family will have them in their lives for a very long time, trust me in VA they stick to you like white on rice which in some cases is a good thing and in others a bad thing.

Do update us on his condition as you can.

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That is horrible!! Thank God somebody stepped in. As for you, I don't blame you for doing an I told you so post . I think it's ridiculous how post are picked to death, as if it's somehow affecting them in a personal way. What in the heck is wrong with that crazy mother? Had the Dad never noticed anything weird?

What a terrible turn of events. My thoughts and prayers are with the baby. So tragic.

Ya know what? the OP saw the signs........ but did not word the post just right.... she sat back, waitied and then something happened.... tragically yes, but now I hope everything turns out for the best and the mother gets help. I wonder if she has Münchhausen? I have said my prayers for the child and for the parents. The mother did what she thought was right, Yes she has problems and hopefully she will get help. The weight thing, well....... it could be any child with a medical problem or is just a big eater.... who are we to judge , unless we know the child or the parents right? Its hard to fully understand what is going in in someone else's life unless we are there .Daltonmomma saw problems came here to vent and to just talk........why are we so quick to judge ? Yes, I posted but didnt judge her just gave my thoughts. Kudos to you Daltonmomma for the I told you so post, ya know you really didn't have to post that. It takes a big person to do that! Karrie


so fast to judge..... I read it wrong.. sorry....... I thought she meant something else. I'm fessing up I was wrong..... want to crucify me now? besides that It was early and I was getting ready for work., thats my only excuse. Well a few of them.

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Daltonmama, I didn't post on the other thread as I felt it was taking on a life of it's own and the concern shifted from Caleb to others judging you unnecessarily. Sometimes if we're not in the midst of a situation, we don't see just what's going on and unfortunately I think that led others to judge your intentions. I think it's fine to disagree with someone but to be harsh and judgmental seems unreasonable to me. But then again some on here seem to disagree with everything posted and their replies are always mean spirited, IMO.
With that said, I feel terrible for little Caleb. I hope he's able to recover. I'm so glad the grandmother was there to see first hand what was going on. I'll keep Caleb and his family in my thoughts. Please keep us updated on his condition.

Huh?

IrishBlonde, why on earth would you give kudos to somebody for saying "I told you so"? How could you possibly believe that it takes a big person to say it? I must be missing something here because that makes no sense at all. It takes a big person to refrain from saying "I told you so" but anybody can point out that they were right. Do you really mean what you wrote? I don't see how anyone could but that's what you wrote.

(I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not insulting Daltonmama. I don't care if she enjoys saying "I told you so.") I'm just confused as to why ANYONE (not Daltonmama in particular) would get kudos and be complimented as "a big person" because they post to say they were right and others were wrong.

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Sending prayers to you and that family...we never really know how bad things can get for people until we hear about the awful things that happen. That poor baby...I hope he's ok either way...God sometime sends Angels ...they're not here for very long, but the lesson is priceless!!

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Am I the only one finding that since you met this child once, showed concern, there is now such heavy drama associated with it. hmmm.. all this happens from someone you 'met' once? Lots of details to be such a faraway guest in their lives. Am I wrong here? Just seems funny that all this has transpired so quickly...

I reread the original post and you said you had been around the child a few times but you were 'shocked' at his size. So obviously it isn't like you are around him often or alot of times. I will stand corrected and get off my soapbox when I have a verifiable link to a newspaper story regarding this. If CPS (or whatever it is called in your area) is involved there is a report and should be a story in a paper. I find it had to believe that even a small town paper would ignore something like this.

OP wrote.... "HOWEVER, I must say that I have been around this kid alot since his birth". I'm not sure where you read that she met this child or family once.

Rebecca

We'll keep him in our prayers, too, Daltonmama. I think the challenges ahead of him are where I'll keep my focus. Please keep us updated on his progress.

daltonmama,
I did post on your other thread what I found when searching on the net for REASON'S that a child may have weight issues.
However,
What was posted on the 1st thread Vs. what was posted here is MORE than what was being told. This Mother wasn't just over feeding her child from what you have posted here shes trying to KILL her child.

Covering a baby's mouth when feeding him solid food items is totally different than just poking a bottle of milk in his mouth wouldn't you agree ??

I do have to ask this tho, Did you not notice this Mother has some Mental issues before this came out ?
Not that I'm blaming you for not noticing any issues, just wondering if there were any signs of mental issues that her OWN Family should have known about , since they are the closes to her and see her daily.

As far as the cardiac failure that probably had little to do with his weight and being over fed and MORE to do with having his mouth closed shut by his Mothers hands and cutting off his air.

Alt ho, I will say this, Her baby's Doctor and the members of her family are MORE to blame than her, She has some kind of terrible mental issues that were there LONG before this baby came around.But in case it wasn't then her family/ husband knew for 6 MONTHS what was going on and NONE of them took any kind of actions to help this child, So who's more to blame here ?? Her or them ??.

It's one thing to over fed a child/ baby it's totally another world to try and suffocate your baby.

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We can argue this all day, but the incident now is that there is a poor child that needs strong prayers and a miracle to get him through this. Lets just forget about the previous post and just lift him up in prayer. Who cares if its a i told you post no one really knew the situation we all just should be concerned for this poor baby. Sending him on my prayer chain.

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Lots of prayers being sent out to Caleb!

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Ok, I'll hop on this train wreck. I re-read the original post, and didn't see the part where she met them once, but, I did get the idea that these are her DH's friends.

What I found odd was that the Mom would incriminate herself by telling the OP that the doctor said she was causing the heart problems by over feeding the baby.

Honestly, I find the whole situation odd, and just hope things are not as they are appearing here, and that the baby is not being harmed.

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Over feeding was the LAST thing wrong this Mother was doing to the baby, She was trying to KILL the baby by covering his Mouth !!, Good Lord !!, This lady had some really bad Mental Issues far beyond just over feeding him. I still believe the Heart Failure was a result of the baby's airway being cut off . Might have some problems from extra weight sure, But nothing compared to having the life cut off from you. That alone will cause heart failure.

I find this whole thing terribly odd.

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daltonmama, I forgot to ask, Did they arrest the Mother for doing this ?? and if not did anyone say why the hell not ??

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My gosh, people, is everyone in a bitchy mood this week? No matter what someone posts, it seems the OP (no matter who it is) is called out on something!! I didn't post to the original post because it had taken such a turn on the OP. As far as I'm concerned, she saw something that wasn't right. You know, some people have these instincts. She came to the board to express her thoughts and she gets flammed. Just like with me posting about the mom at Wal-Mart who left the store/parking lot without her little boy and I was flammed and a lot of you took up for the mother. What if she had left him in a hot car while she went in to Wal-Mart and died? Would you then have been so defensive for this mom? But then someone posts about the little 2 year old girl whose parents KILLED her and then you wonder why. Well, the things previously posted about the mom overfeeding her obese child and the mom leaving her little boy at Wal-Mart perhaps could be leading up to something horrible like what happened to this little 2 year old. So we express concern about something and post it here.

It just amazes me how judgmental and critical people can be sometimes when there's no need to be.

OK. I'm done now. Go ahead and flame me.

I didn't read the other posts you mentioned, but, in the original post about this 29lb baby,the OP says "Tell me what you think......" So, people did as they will do, and told her what they think. If you only want people to agree with you, I guess you need to post that. OTOH, what if she were on the other end, and was the Mom with the 29lb baby??? What if her post were "someone turned me in to CPS claiming my baby was too fat!!!!" ??? I think many would be saying that person should have minded their own business. There would no doubt, still be people saying "yeah,that sounds a bit big......WHAT ARE YOU FEEDING THE KID?????" It can go any way with all the posts. I don't think it means people are being bitchy.

If you only want certain opinions, post that. If you want to know what people think, as OP requested, then state that.

It's a chat board, people, does it really play that much of a role in your life??

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see, you're contradicting yourself---you were judgmental and critical of a mother that you didn't even KNOW, didn't even know the entire story. All you KNEW was what some cashier told you. Did the cashier even know the whole story? Or was it like that old game "Gossip"? Remember that? You sit in a circle and everyone whispers in the ear of their neighbor what they thought they heard, until it gets back to the beginning and then you see just how different the story is?

OK--and I'm going to be the first person to say it, although I'm sure others have thought it. I think this post by the OP is crap just to make herself look better. I don't believe it. Timing is waaaay to coincidental. What is in this post just doesn't match up to what was in the first post....yep, I'm thinking the OP may be telling a fib.

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OK, enough is enough. I never read the first post, something a bout an overweight child does not appeal to me. It makes me want to cry. I am not taking sides here at all. I don't want to flame OP or anyone else. My thought is.... IF for some reason as another poster claims...the OP is telling a fib, WHY on earth would someone bring a child into the matter. Say the OP is, big deal... it will come back to haunt them. IF not, I am truly sorry that the OP has to deal with this.
Again, I am in no position to criticize the OP or anyone on this board. I feel sorry for the OP as well as the family involved. My thoughts and prayers do go out to them all.

If you didn't read the 1st post then you don't have a clear line of what took place.

Alot of members are having a hard time with the fact that, There was a DOCTOR seeing this child and placed him on meds. If ANYONE should be worried about turning in the Mother of this child it SHOULD have been a person that deals with Children EVERYDAY. They are the ones trained in seeking abuse cases daily.

No where in the 1st post was it posted that the baby only weighed 5 lbs at birth. A baby will gain 2 X's their birth weight in the 1st few months. So if this baby weighed 8 lbs at birth, By the time they are 2- 3 months old they will be 16 lbs. Or in 3 of my 7 children their birth weigh was 9 lbs, 9 .14 and 9.04 so anywhere from 18 lbs to 22 lbs would have been the case for my own children.

Also, If the Mother has family members around her daily then they are the ones to see her daily with the child, If you saw a person FORCE FEEDING a child to the point they puked and this happen every single day multi times daily, How would you handle it ????????, When its too late is too long.

And lastly, Al tho I didn't post anything flaming daltonmama, I will have to agree with others. When you ASK what people think or what they would do, it's NOT always going to be what YOU will do or what YOU would think.

It's more here than just over feeding a child, Its trying to KILL your child, Something that just didn't come up since the Op posted her concerns. Covering a child's mouth while feeding them soil foods to make them swallow is CRAZY, and this Mother has to be CRAZY in order to do that.

Enuff Said about this from me. I have flame suits by the dozen

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Poor little guy-he is in my prayers. Please keep us posted.

This is one of the most bizarre stories I have ever heard. Why were her hands cuffed? Cardiac failure due to obesity in a 6 month old? Asthma in an infant? I tend to subscribe to the "if it seems to good to be true, it probably is", "if it seems to be crazy to be true, it probably isn't" theory....and I'm quite doubtful on this one.

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You're reading what YOU want to read. I was there, I heard the plea over the intercom twice, I heard the managers talking and the cashier I was at had just finished talking to the managers. You darn right I was judgmental because it wasn't just hearsay -- it actually happened. I don't have pity on a mother who would leave her child at a store. There are no excuses. She did come back in and say she forgot him!! Geesh, gossip over! But that's another post here -- not this one we're discussing about the obese baby. Well, I guess you could ask the OP where she is located, the last name of the people involved and you can google it or call a hospital in the area if you don't believe her.

*sigh* and as I asked before:
-how old was the child?
-was their more than one adult involved?

You do not seem to know the specifics other than what you heard from the gossiping cashiers and CSM. I work w/ Wal-Mart people all day long. They gossip a lot, and half the time they do not know what actually happened.

I never said that the mother didn't "lose" the child--what I said was you, nor I, know the specific details thus I won't make a judgment based on gossip and hearsay.

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4 days transpired between the 1st post of this being dh's friend to INTIMATE details of what alledgedly happened.
INTIMATE details. There is a huge difference in the casualness to star t and the pointed details now.

I am with the other 2 who wonder about the validity of this. No one will ever know, and yes, people have posted here for drama, even ~gasp~ bringing children into it. Sometimes people get caught in their lies and the more they tell, the harder it is to keep all of the lies straight. I have no idea if the op is great at fictional writing or not. Simply, she asked for opinions, then was upset when people didn't agree with her and came back to "tell us so" as the hero that SHE was right . (remember, just 4 days later, in great INTIMATE details)

She is entitled to be in the running either for best mommy of the year award, or fictional writer. Wonder if we will ever know.

dl

I think that you all are crazy for thinking that anyone would make this up. About the mom's hands being cuffed over the baby's mouth, I believe that she meant cupped. Are you picturing hand cuffs? I am picturing the mom using her hand to keep the food in the baby's mouth. Maybe this would cause diffuculty breathing and cardiac arrrest? I don't know any babies with asthma either but I am not a medical professional, are you?

Rebecca

Geesh, I answered that in my Wal-Mart post!! Please read it! Enough said! Do you pick apart everything someone says piece by piece all the time? Don't you have other things to do??? I was simply making a post on here about a woman who LEFT her son in Wal-Mart while I was in the store. That's all. And I'm supposed to know ALL the details???? Excuseee me. Enough is enough!!

* Note to everyone else who makes a post -- make sure you know ALL the details of something before you post it, because you will be quizzed on it by people who think they know everything.

Rebecca,
thats how I took it to mean Cupped as over the childs mouth to hold the food in and make him swallow.Think the OP just typed Cuffed instead of Cupped.
If you are not breathing your heart not beating right. I dont know if this is what happen I'm only assuming since he was choking and couldn't breathe then his heart was failing to beat.

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What causes a cardiac arrest?

The most common underlying reason for patients to die suddenly from cardiac arrest is coronary heart disease. These people are at varying risks for cardiac arrest. In general, those with damaged hearts are at greater risk. Specific risk factors include a previous episode of cardiac arrest, a history of heart failure and a family history of sudden cardiac arrest. Other factors besides heart disease can cause cardiac arrest. They include respiratory arrest, electrocution, drowning, choking and drug overdoses. Cardiac arrest can also occur without any identifiable cause.

Found this on the site here
UW Medicine - Pre-hosptial Intervention in Cardiac Arrest FAQ

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Hello? There are people on the Internet who claim that their nonexistant children died! Anybody who's been on My Coupons for any length of time remembers SEVERAL liars. I can think of lots of reasons someone would make up bizarre stories.

- Entertainment

- Increased traffic for their website

- Pathetic life

- Instant attention

- Etc, etc, etc.

What's even more bizarre is when people give these sorts of people their names and real addresses ...

What is funny is I googled it and found nothing.. you would think that an occurance such as this would have made news somewhere.

This does sound like Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome (MBPS). Ive seen it a few times working, but do not know all the facts. usually a mother - deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own child) sick. I guess we may never know, but I do hope the child survives and has no ill effects in his future and the mother gets serious help.

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I don't know if it's true or not, but I have a child who was dx'd with asthma at the age of two.

I also wouldn't expect this to be something that appears on the news. It's a case for CPS, that's for sure, but unfortunately, many children suffer through many things, so while dramatic in nature, it's not the only case of abuse resulting in harm to a child in the US today.

I knew a young mother convicted of abusing her child in a Munchausen by Proxy situation. It was a horrible situation. She ended up in prison several years, and upon her release became pregnant with a second child shortly thereafter. The authorities had already cut of all contact between her and the child she initially abused, and took the second child from her at birth. In that case, the grandmother - her own mother - suspected something, and they ultimately spied on her in the hospital (the baby was admitted because she supposedly kept stopping breathing, and it only happened in the presence of the mother) and she was caught putting her hand over the baby's mouth and holding her nose closed. She also claimed she had been throwing up uncontrollably... and come to find out, the mother had been giving her something to make her throw up, unbeknownst to anyone else.

OP's story sounds far-fetched, but if in fact this is an MbP case, it's actually rather stereotypical, IMHO.

Again I ask......"WHY would the mother, or ANY mother for that matter, disclose this type of info. to someone???" Hi, My name is Maggie, and I force feed my 6 month old, and my mother caught me trying to smother him. Wanna be friends????

I agree, you have to be cautious with what you read on the internet.

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If some of ya ll just don't *Get It* as to why there are questions to this and if it might not be true, then maybe you haven't been here long enough to know the things we have been told on this board. I have been a member here since this site was just 2 months old., We have had members posting their Husbands/ Family members died in 911.We had members posting their Baby died, their Child died.
We have seen members here post just to FIGHT with their own selves, Yeppers they would post and then come back under a different name just to post a fight with their own post.. We have seen members here have 10 NAMES on this board. The list can go on forever. It's NOT that anyone doesn't want to believe the post or poster , it's just some don't want to be taken in AGAIN by a false post. It's NOT that hard to understand why there's questions about a post that just doesn't sound right to some.

No one here wants to oust a member, But we sure don't want to have that start all over again.

Old members here have sent Money, Cards, Gift Baskets, FLOWERS to made up funerals, They have done web pages in honor of a baby that died only to find out there never was a baby to start with.

Some are still trying to get over this and it's hard not to feel this way when things are posted later on that should have been posted to start with.

I don't know if this is true or not. I hope it's true, sad but none the less a true story about a Mother that needs more help than ANYONE on this board can offer.

In time I'm sure if you are a new member ( meaning not here form the start up of this site ) It will not take you long at all to find out there are people that post things thats NOT TRUE.

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got2, I understand exactly where you are coming from. I don't disagree with a thing you said about the need to keep a filter on and not buy into every story.

There are some things that make me think this post rings true.

In the OP's first post, to me, she sounded exasperated and judgmental. I don't mean 'judgmental' in the way it probably sounds. I took it that she'd spent the evening with these people and simply couldn't stand being around them because the mom seemed so off-kilter. I took it that she was at her tolerance limit with them, largely because the mother seemed very over the top, dramatic, and unwise about her parenting - feeding in particular. I think she came her to spout off, was frustrated, maybe even looking for a bit of a fight so she could have opportunity to rag on them to us and spew a little anger.

I don't fault her for that at all. I think we've all been forced to spend time with someone that made us want to throw pottery, and we left the encounter with so much pent-up anger and energy that we wanted nothing more than an opportunity to go off on what was wrong with that person. It's cathartic, and I assume we've all been there.

And I took it that the OP was at that limit.

The MbP mom I knew... wow. She truly was a hypersensitive fruitcake, and I don't say that lightly. I remember at church once... she was having a meltdown at her mother in the lobby (this was when her first baby - the one she abused - was just 3 months old) because there was nowhere for her to feed her baby. She was bottle feeding, and there was a "nursing mothers room" - obviously for privacy - there was no "bottle feeding mothers room." She was making a huge, loud deal about it, about how her child was going to starve and become ill because she didn't get to eat the whole time she was at church, etc. Give me a break. But that's what she was doing. It wasn't rational and yet there it was - drama centered around her, created by her, and festering all because of her.

If the OP's acquaintance has MbP, she'd be inventing wild hare stories about the baby and orchestrating things designed to bring attention to herself. It's all about the drama, and the worse the drama, the better.

That's why I have no trouble believing that this young mother would say, "My mom said I was choking him." That sets the listener up to say, "Oh, no! How terrible of her! What a rotten mother you have, and yet here you are, so strong and in charge. Wow - you are amazing."It's ALL about the mother, all the time.

I have been in and out of these boards for years now. I have wanted to change my posting name often, because my girls are grown now, and I am never at the ball park, as my name makes me sound. But I haven't changed it, out of fear that someone would think that I was doing it for ulterior motives. I have noticed how paranoid alot of members seem to be, and never really knew why. I didn't know that people had made up nutty stories. But regardless, all the snittiness make speople hesitant to post. Probably none of us will ever know what's the truth and what's not about what is posted, but good Lord, in this case, can't we just say a prayer for this baby? I mean, who really knows? I am recovery room nurse, and we have gun shots , stab wounds from domestic problems, and unfortunantly a suspected child neglect case come thru. It's very rare that any of it ever makes it to the newspaper, much less the news. . It is sad that this kind of crap, and much worse , happens all the time. Why doesn't everybody quit being so quick to judge, and be argumentative? Why do some of these people even come here, since they already know everything there is to know about everything, and believe nothing anyone says?

wowitsdark,
I couldn't agree with you more on this. I have a DRAMA Queen Adult Daughter, She makes me SO mad at times I could just shake the living DAYLIGHTS out of her. She has said things I KNOW are not true and when shes called on she goes into this hissy fit, yelling screaming, cussing, OH LORD. I don't think she by any means MBP , she's just a drama queen mother ( KWIM?).. This is why I still stand by my post(s), There's MORE to her just over feeding this little boy. I don't know of any Mother that cups their baby's mouth in order to force them to swallow solid food items. I also think, Might be wrong, But this Family had to see signs of this way before the OP posted it. Only an abusive Mother would do things like this. No SANE Mother in the world would force fed and then close shut a baby's mouth( Or at least none that I know of ).... I also feel due to the Org post by the OP that stated the Child was under the Doctor's care that this should have been HIS call on whether or not CPA was called. A good Ped knows whether a child ESP a baby is being abused by the parent(s). If this baby's health was so poorly he has a duty under the law in every State to report it( He can and will/ should lose his license if not ). Maybe it's me, But sometimes when I see people posting REPORT REPORT if just gets to me so badly, as I have been reported by my DRAMA QUEEN Daughter all over a freaking boy I wouldn't allow her to date ( Yeah NOW she knows why, guess when she was told from his Mother he's now serving 10 years for drug charges she see what I saw years ago ).. I when Thu HELL and BACK.. Did you know whether or not charges are found to be false it stays on a person record for 5 YEARS !! Yes Ma'am 5 YEARS. meaning for 5 years I couldn't apply for ANY job where there's children, I was NOT allowed to even host or help the school because when I was reported my other child was school aged and the police had to go talk to them in case the abuse wasn't just for my oldest daughter ( There was NO abuse even tho there should have been at times ).. The social worker had to so talk to my husbands boss man and his wife, The same family my husband has worked for going on then 21 years. They also talked to my Mother/ Step Father/ and 2 nieces.. this all over a child that wanted to date a boy I didn't approve of. and to top it all off, The case work told us ALL including the school they knew it couldn't be true as she would have been dead if so, She claimed I was making her drank bleach as a form of punishment. OMG Bleach ?? So I guess since I have been there with unfounded charges and I know what hell they put a family Thu, It gets to me to see someone post report them report them. Esp when the baby is under the care of a doctor at the time... I'm sure the op was upset about the Mother popping a bottle in his mouth every few sec's and I'm sure she also thought this was abuse ( and it may be ).. But feeding a baby and having a baby weighing 29 lbs at 6 1/2 months doesn't always add up to abuse ( KWIM ).. Had the op given more details of the baby @ birth, or even said she was crazy before the baby, then that would have been a totally different ballgame.. But I can and do understand why others are having a hard time swallowing this now, Only after questions were asked did more info come out and along with the more info were things the baby is NOW suffering from . S1 pointed out its been 4 days since 1st and Now this post( Don't know didn't look ). Sadly the baby is very sick and near dying. That is alot to have to thumb Thu for some. (KWIM).
A lot that the OP did post didn't sound quite right with me either, Thats why I did no flaming on her post and still haven't flamed her. Only asking questions about the Mother and now whats becoming of her.

To really sums this up, People will believe what they want, to they don't you will not change their thinking. However, again, If you post on a open public board asking for what would, what to tell, what to say, you HAVE to take the good with the bad no matter what is said.

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Ball Mom don't feel that way, I have had to change mine 2 times here.
1st time was when the site took its 1st major crash and we ALL lost our names, Some were able to get them back other;s had to change. Then after the clover wars I left and when I came back a year later I was unable to get back under my name I had for years here. ( Found out why lol..Someone here has my old name ).But most of the older members know who I'm I have posted my real name on threads here since coming back. But if you want to change your name by all means do it. If you feel better just do a Sig stating your old name.. either way,, If you want to change it do it... don't let what others might think the reason why stop you.

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This post is now closed! Thanks to all who responded . I do hope everything turns our for this poor little boy. OP please keep us updated.

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