Regarding the upcoming movie The Golden Compass...

The atheists have brought their teachings into our schools, work places and our television sets. The growing idea for many atheists is to convert people to their way of thinking. On

December 7th, 2007 the movie, “The Golden Compass,” will make its mark to, (as the author of the series of books put it), “to kill God in the hearts of our children.” The Golden Compass, or

The Northern Lights in the UK, is part of a trilogy of books written by Phillip Pullman, a devout atheist.

These books are written to show, in his words, “the other side of the picture.” The Trilogy entitled, His Dark Materials, ends up with the two main characters finding God as a fraud. “The

Authority,” is the name given to God in the books and in the last book, "The Amber Spyglass", found to be a senile, old, decrepit man that is carried away by the winds after his death. Our plea

is for everyone to make a stand and not allow this movie to prosper.
We ask you to help us by doing two things: 1) Send this e-mail to others and let all be informed and

2) We invite you to join us, not in a loud demonstration, but in a silent movie theatre.

The weekend of December 7, 2007, we are encouraging all Christians to boycott all movies at your local theatre. We are asking that for the entire weekend (Dec. 7-9), you not attend,

rent, or purchase any movies. Hollywood understands one thing for sure: “If it makes money, we’ll do it”.

We, as a body of believers, can show Hollywood that although we are quiet, we still have strong voice. My hope is that we will let the silence in the theatres be deafening to the producers,

actors, sponsors, and supporters of movies like “The Golden Compass.”

On December 7th, 1941 the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and began the events of World War II for our country. I find it ironic that this movie will be released on the same day. If this movie

succeeds, the second movie is ready to be produced and the atheistic teaching will continue to infect our children! I pray that we will, as a body of believers, let our voices be heard. God needs

us to be His voice and speak out boldly!

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I believe in freedom of speech, and see this movie as just that. I also see the boycott as free speech, and respect that.

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Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

I don't think a movie has the power on it's own to do anything as powerful as turn anyone against God. If it was in you to do so, it was there before you saw the movie.

Just like other mediums have no such power, the power comes from within, how you raise your kids, what you have taught them, that determines more of how the will react and what they will believe

I can understand not supporting something that goes against your beliefs, but have faith in what you've been taught.

I wouldn't go see it, it just doesn't look like my sort of thing anyway.

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Most Aethiests, Agnostics and Christians do not try to convert people to their beliefs, they will however discuss when asked. If this movie is not your cup of tea, then do not go. If you feel the need to voice your disapproval then do it. Other people will also feel the need to support it. Each of you have the right to speak your piece. Personally I am looking forward to the movie, It is a movie, entertainment. I like the idea of seeing things from another perspective. Usually it just cements the way I originally thought. One thing is for certain, nothing peaks the interest more than a boycott. Look at Married With Children. It had it's best ratings when people started the boycott thing,

One's faith must not be very strong if he or she is afraid of a movie.

Isn't "devout atheist" an oxymoron?

No.

While it seems like most times "devout" is used in conjunction with a "faith", there is a slightly different meaning with it:

One of the definitions of "devout" is this:

3. earnest or sincere; hearty: He had a devout allegiance to the political regime.

Just put in atheist instead of anything political and there you go.

On a side note....isn't believing in something, "faith"? People can be just as "devout" in the belief OF something, as in the belief that something DOESN'T exist.

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I know that our family will NOT be seeing this movie!!!! We will also join in the boycott and not rent/go see any movies this weekend!

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It was a joke......lighten up

I personally am not going to get all worked up about a movie. I cant even tell you if we will see it or not. I just think that my belief system is what it is and I am secure enough in it that I could watch a movie and not be swayed to change my beliefs.


I guess what I am trying to say that movies are not what I consider a source of valuable information. So this movie isnt causing me to be riled up.

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Sell crazy some place else, we are all stocked up here.

Uhhh...I wasn't "darkened down", I thought I was just participating in a discussion but thanks being so sweet and caring!!

Have a LOVELY holiday!

<--- (Just to make sure you know I'm very "lightened up and happy!)

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Exactly. If a person truly has faith, a MOVIE isn't going to totally annihilate a lifetime of belief. I couldn't understand all the hoopla with Harry Potter and Chronicles of Narnia. It's just imagination, that's all.

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Very well put...
I can not say one way or another whether we will see this movie. There are several "family"/"kid" oriented movies coming out over the next few weeks that our kids have expressed an interest in. They would much rather see "The Water Horse" or "Alvin and the Chipmunks"...

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Since a "moderator" posted this, can you please explain to me how this is allowed, yet, a thread on the Election board was locked, claiming "sarcasm"??? Is the rule "do as I say, and not as I do????" Just want to be clear here.

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Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

I am a Christian and I learned a long time ago not to judge something until I've actually seen it myself. I was 'brainwashed' as a teenager that certain music was sinful, that dancing was sinful, that going to the movies was sinful -- heck, just about everything was 'sinful'. Since then I've learned that the people who TOLD me this stuff was sinful, they were going behind our backs and doing much worse things.

I say that to say this -- don't let something in print or someone from a pulpit tell you something is wrong. It's what you believe in YOUR heart to be wrong. Not someone else's.

I don't like these types of movies anyway, but if I had small children, I would watch the movie for myself and then make my own judgment of the movie. Now that my children are grown, this would be their decision to make, not mine and not the church. I taught them to think for themselves as they were growing up and not to be brainwashed as I was.

But if certain people want to boycott the movie theatres this weekend, that is certainly their right to do so. I just hope it's really their decision to do it.

I do not plan to see the movie but however if I do end up seeing it, it isn't going to change my belief.

The best thing anyone to do if you believe something is wrong is simply don't watch it and try to instill your morals and beliefs into your children.

I am not for athiests but I would not turn my back on one either because I don't think the God would really want me to do that because what kind of lesson does that teach? I know alot of people that do not believe in God but I won't shun them because of it.

Just pray.

I just wanted to add even if it is a little off topic but one of my friends is Catholic (well more then one but I am considering people close to me) and my other very dear friend is Muslim. I do not judge them and their beliefs and the do not judge mine, however I don't agree with them but I figure that is for God to decide. KWIM?

What she said.

As for moderators, my opinion is that they can and should participate both as people (with differences and opinions) and as moderators. Just need to be clear what hat they are wearing when they post. Although that would kinda take the fun out of moderator-bashing, wouldn't it?

cj/

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DOH!! ducking for cover!

It's your right to feel I was sarcastic, but I as the author of the post I can tell you I wasn't. I know you're not really asking me, but I would know what I meant the best, right?

I guess a good question would be, why can't a nice person just be nice without someone trying to sniff out some other meaning? Too jaded and overly suspicious for my taste, but different topic for a different thread.

I just wanted Suz to know that I wasn't berating her with my first reply, just participating and explaining such, I would also venture that you don't know me very well, if at all, so such an assumption is only that.

If you want to use someone's post as a "finger-point" to something you don't like about a completely different thread, you'll have to find another. Sometimes the words, are just the words...no hidden meanings.

I hope that clears up the issues in THIS thread - as I have no idea what's going on with the politicial board.

Have a lovely day!

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A movie will not change my beliefs either.
This movie could influence children and teens.
By boycotting the movie this weekend, we are telling "Hollywood" that we do not appreciate movies that go against religion.
Maybe if that were done more often, we can let it be known that we want good, clean, moral movies instead of all the filth that is in most movies!
I do believe in freedom of speech, but I also know that most of us are decent people and are sick of all of the garbage that is passing for movies these days.
We don't need or want to hear the dirty language.
We don't need to or want to witness someone else's sex life.
We don't need to see or want to see so much killing and maiming.
We want good and decent movies with a good plot instead of trash that is not doing anyone any good.
Can't someone make a good movie that would be enjoyable without foul language or sex or violence?
Where are the good writers?
I don't like to have my intelligence insulted.
I am a fairly intelligent adult person who got over sneaking a peek at the "good parts" in a book long ago.
Give us something that will be suitable for decent adults and not just the ones who are such "thrill (or whatever ) seekers.
Grown ups want to see movies too, but anymore we can't!

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

Seemed like sarcasm to me.

Not finger pointing, nor mod. bashing (as Anni....er, another poster) stated. Just wanting what I asked for, a little clarification. I thought the same general rules would apply to all the boards......silly me

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Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

Huh? My name starts with a c...as in connie. No idea who Anni...er is.....you're barking up the wrong tree on that one. Turn in your detective license.

cj/

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

No problem, just a misunderstanding. It happens! Not being able to see a face or expression can REALLY hamper a meaning sometimes.

I would imagine they would apply the same. I'm just not sure what rule you want slapped on here, considering it was nothing more than a misinterpretation.

Have a good one!

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JM19 - I agree 100%. Nothing is more irritating to get what you think is going to be a good movie and it is filled with unnecessary vulgar language, violence, etc.

We went to a friends house for movie night with a group one night -they decided to watch some movie filled with vulgar language, nudity, etc. I was embarassed to be watching such in the presence of a group of people.

I am more upset about this movie because Scholastic has their book order forms filled with books/items related to this movie. My point of contention is this movie is rate PG-13 - these book order forms are for 3rd-5th grades - These children are not 13. I hate it when any movie that is PG-13 is marketed aggressively to the younger children (this means Spiderman, Pirates of the Carribean, etc.).

If you look at the cover that the movie came in it will tell you if there's sex, nudity, violence, language, graphic sex, etc. Every movie has that on there. It's also mentioned at the beginning of the movie before it even starts. Maybe your movie night group needs to set some guidelines if it embarrassed you so much.

Yep, what oupiglet said!

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Gosh, I can't remember the last time a group of atheists went to another country (or heck, even just stayed here) to try and convert people to our way of thinking, unlike missionaries.

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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus

I hope you don't mind if I politely disagree.

There were many people who gave their life to God during and after viewing the movie "The Passion of Christ".

You're assuming that the majority of movie-goers actually want to see "good, clean, moral movies". Who's to say that they don't want to see what you are calling filth? Most people I know would prefer a good variety of movies to be made including "all the filth". I would much prefer making my own mind up about a movie instead of someone telling me what I should watch. I don't know you, so I don't know exactly what your definition of "filth" is, but I would bet that I would like some of those movies you're calling "filth".

As for "The Golden Compass", I could care less about the controversy. From the trailers I've seen so far, it doesn't look like a movie that would be up my alley. I doubt I'll go to the theater to see, but I might rent it after it comes out on DVD. To all of the posters who are wanting to go see this movie, have fun.

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Me and Bf saw this movie on our first date. I will never understand why they made the whole movie in a language only few would understand ,nor do I understand why they had to spend nearly an hour alone just whipping the crap out of Jesus.That was so unrealistic.No man could ever have endured as many lashings as they showed Jesus having in that movie,unless... they were ...... God himself.

I would much rather watch a bloody.gory,evil movie than watch a movie showing JESUS being lashed a hundred thousand times with a whip. I also am very sensitive to movies that may belittle the lord.I have nothing against them being made or anyone else seeing them,but I would not want to see it.

I will be going to see this movie just to see what all the fuss is all about. The Golden Compass book series is one of my 17 yr old daughters all-time favorite reads. She read them in 5th-6th grades and they did not "turn her away from God" or influnence her beliefs in any way. She is a very moral and spiritual young lady who enjoys reading FICTION novels ~ especially fantasy fiction. She is going to see the movie on Saturday with another Christian friend who also read and loved the book series. They are quite excited to see if the movie is different from the novels.

I consider myself a "decent" person.Every Tuesday my DH and I go to the movies. We like stupid horror flicks(Friday the 13 part 500), teenage comedies (SuperBad) and more. I do not want to pay $8.50 to see a chick flick or some life altering thinking movie. I want to be entertained. If you don't like that type of movie then don't go, but don't crap on my parade and not allow me as an adult to decide what is appropriate for me to see. And don't try to regulate what I will allow my children to watch. Spiderman? Pirates?Have you seen the 6 o'clock news? Congressman soliciting sex in an airport bathroom, bombs blowing children to bits, gunman opening fire in a shopping mall. I would rather my kids see a grown man in blue tights swinging around on a web or Johnny Depp swaggering around in swashbuckling gear, at least my kids at 10 and up knew that was fake and pretend unlike the very real and scary nightly news. I am eagerly anticipating the Sex and City movie. yep that is what many people would call filth and I can't wait. It's fun and I like it

Well said. Let's leave the movies for what they were designed for....ENTERTAINMENT.

Do you think the studio that green-lighted this movie had a religious agenda? Hell no, they were looking for something to make them money! If you don't want to see the movie....fine. Don't see it. But, don't tell me that I cannot or should not.

On a side note, I have no plans to see this movie with or without my children as it looks boring to us and not our kind of movie.

We won't see it either because I don't want to support the author of the books in anyway. Regardless of the 'message' or 'non-message' of the movie, we wouldn't see it anyway because it's PG-13.

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Nicely said and I personally cant wait to see Johnny Depp swaggering around in swashbuckling gear

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"Never loan your car to someone you have given birth too"

Between this and the NBC thread, I'd love to say that my very occasional TV/movie viewing is based on strong principles, rather than disinterest. But no, none of this seems worth protesting, and none of it seems like something I haven't seen before.

While I have heard atheist speak about why they do not believe, I have never heard them try to "teach" atheism to anyone in school or anywhere else.

It's true that the book's author, Phillip Pullman, is an atheist. However, there is a strong Christian theme throughout the movie. He has stated that because of the way he was brought up, he could no more get the Anglican Church out his being than stop breathing.

The "God" that is killed is a false god.

The books, and movie somewhat, does have a bias against dogma.

By all means, if your faith, or your children's faith, would be damaged by seeing this movie, stay home.

"Nicely said and I personally cant wait to see Johnny Depp swaggering around in swashbuckling gear "


I personally cant wait to see him in any kind of gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is so HOT! Okay now back to the movie....lol. My 17 yr DD went last night to see it, is still very strong in her beliefs, and said the movie was okay. Okay to me means it wasn't much, so I'll be waiting for the DVD. But yes I will watch it when it comes out. I am one of the biggest Harry Potter fans out there, but I also know its fantasy and not reality, I enjoyed the Chronociles(sp) of Naria(sp) but know that it could't happen in real life so I'll enjoy this movie as that...nothing could change my connection with God

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Oh, who are you guys kidding??? You know you want to see him swaggering around in NO GEAR!!! LOL

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I don't think that seeing a movie will in any way damage my faith, or anyone elses for that matter. That's not the point. It's the choice to not support movies with this type of theme or idea. There are many movies I choose not to see because of the theme, this is no different. There are just some things I don't want in my head. garbage in garbage out, you know?

That sounds good to me

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"Never loan your car to someone you have given birth too"

our family will NOT be seeing this movie!!!! We will also join in the boycott and not rent/go see any movies this weekend!

Well, I saw the movie yesterday and loved it. I love fantasy movies. I am a devout Christian and found nothing whatsoever questionable or objectionable in this film, nada, nothing, not one tiny bit.
I remember when I saw "V for Vendetta" and people were worried that it promoted anarchism. Um, no it didn't.
I remember when the "Davinci Code" was coming out and my church (non-denominational) spent an entire monthly sermon series, with extra bible studies, emailings, etc. all devoted to refuting the silliest, most ridiculous movie. The movie came out and went quickly. It made no negative splash against Christians. But Christians were all up in arms and busy, as they are with this movie.
I believe in boycotts and I think we as Christians should take stands. But we should not just herd together without thinking and examining things. This movie is not worth fighting at all.
But what we should be boycotting----that is indeed a problem in this country---are MTV shows, tabloid television, the degrading of our children and women through pornography. Where is the outrage against general declining morality? I find it sad that there is little organized action against much more important things.

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Count us in on the boycott only b/c we are too cheap to pay full price at the movies.

Rebecca

I didn't go see it yet but plan on it just because I got a free ticket to see it inside a copy of the Notebook I got at Target on Black friday I am also goin to see the new National Treasure movie because that ticket was in the Pirates movie I got yesterday

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I am going to close this thread. Feel free to open a new one. Thanks Karrie

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