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Old 01-02-2008, 12:11 PM
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When did this happen?? NO MODERATION???

Saw this at the top of the page (home page) along with some other "rules". So, there are no mods now??


Posts are open and unmoderated, and do not necessarily reflect the views of MyCoupons.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:38 PM
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Hmmm. I don't know. I never noticed it before, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't been there all along.

Honestly, it has to be very recent...did you notice the second line though?

"Obscene, abusive, silly, or annoying remarks may be deleted, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their views by MyCoupons."

So, even if line one is correct, line two indirectly says that they are moderated.

Am I easily confused?? LOL

To MC's credit.....I think it's too bad that we all have to make statements to *cover* ourselves. I really don't understand why we can't all just play nice. And to the mod's credit, it has to be virtually impossible to read everything and be diplomatic in making decisions. Sometimes we forget that they are busy people with busy lives...just like us.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:41 PM
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Never noticed that before..Very interesting.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:55 PM
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There was a Mod on this board until 1/1/08 - your mod left because of the personal attacks. You know we do this as a volunteer. And some...not all and not many, but some people who post on this board can get vicious making it uncomfortable and just not fun to continue moderating.

Again, this is a small percentage of members, but you know what they say..."a few bad apples".

Anyone who wants to take a crack at moderating this board needs to PM Greg. But honestly you need to have a thick skin.

PS...I am not the Mod on this board, I personally do not have a "thick-skin"
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:04 PM
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On other sites such as YahooGroups, "moderated", means posts will not go up until they've been filtered through a moderator.

What I understand the MC policy to mean is that they let posts go up as soon as you submit them, but they'll take them down if they see one that violates their rules.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:28 PM
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I've never noticed that there before either. I'm thinking it came with the new year. I also noticed a new board (I've forgotten the name), but it's an introduce yourself type of board.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:28 PM
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This is posted above all the boards, even on ones that still have current moderators....I think they talking about what wowitsdark mentioned.....
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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Anyone who wants to take a crack at moderating this board needs to PM Greg. But honestly you need to have a thick skin.

Hmmm....btdt.....LOL
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:38 PM
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There was a Mod on this board until 1/1/08 - your mod left because of the personal attacks. You know we do this as a volunteer. And some...not all and not many, but some people who post on this board can get vicious making it uncomfortable and just not fun to continue moderating.

Again, this is a small percentage of members, but you know what they say..."a few bad apples".

Anyone who wants to take a crack at moderating this board needs to PM Greg. But honestly you need to have a thick skin.

PS...I am not the Mod on this board, I personally do not have a "thick-skin"
And on top of that thick skin--you have to be able to be OBJECTIVE and NON BIASED in your moderation. That also means you have to apply the same rules to EVERYONE in a fair and equal fashion.

If you do all the above you're less likely to need that thick skin....
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:44 PM
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There was a Mod on this board until 1/1/08 - your mod left because of the personal attacks.
So exactly why did she leave and who's fault was it? Did our mod make a post about leaving? I must have missed it.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure that it means that the boards have been hacked by terrorists from racist and right-wing groups who are hell bent on extracting personal information and warping the minds of both young and mature mothers - and, get this, their children! - across America's soil. Be afraid, be very afraid. Get not only your thick skin, but your full-fledged body armor.

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Old 01-02-2008, 02:51 PM
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I forget who the latest mod was here. Can anyone refresh my memory? I've been pretty busy and not on much, I must of missed something.....imagine that....
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That's awful. I hope she still participates as a "regular" visitor.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:06 PM
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I think she's still a mod, just not for this board....I think she's on JF too
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:10 PM
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Yes, she seems like a nice person. I makes me very sad that this seems to happen every couple of months.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:10 PM
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I think she's still a mod, just not for this board....I think she's on JF too

She just posted on The Cafe board and referred to a closed thread on the freebies board about 'post-its'. Under her name it says 'moderator'.

She could at least tell us what happened to cause her to leave as a mod.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:14 PM
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She could at least tell us what happened to cause her to leave as a mod.
I don't think she's under any obligation whatsoever to do that. It's her personal choice to quit (or not) and her personal choice to share the details (or not).

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Old 01-02-2008, 03:18 PM
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I kind of agree mom2twins, however sometimes you can't win for losin on this board, ya know? If she had made a big deal, she would have been criticized. I am always shocked at what others can read into a thread that I just say "hm" about. I guess I'm just naive, or too lazy to really think EVERYTHING somebody posts through.........
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:19 PM
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With the turnover of mods on this board, could we have a private moderator.....We don't really have to know who they are do we?

I hate to see people get their feelings hurt....I hope Irish will still come and chat with us all......
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:25 PM
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I'm not a detective and I don't play one on TV, but maybe, just maybe, the ridicule that ensued to the thread rating post was potentially bothersome.

Someone is very bored!
Someone is bored. Part II

Just a hunch,
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:26 PM
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I don't think she's under any obligation whatsoever to do that. It's her personal choice to quit (or not) and her personal choice to share the details (or not).

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Well, I know that, but when someone we're all used to just up and quits, you'd sort of like to know what caused her to get so upset that she would leave. I think it would make it easier for the next mod to know what (or who) to watch out for.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:34 PM
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With the turnover of mods on this board, could we have a private moderator.....We don't really have to know who they are do we?

I hate to see people get their feelings hurt....I hope Irish will still come and chat with us all......
Excellent suggestion.

Just to add to mabear's invitation, I'd hope that all past mods can put some of their hurt feelings behind them and come chat again.

They are missed.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:16 PM
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I'm not a detective and I don't play one on TV, but maybe, just maybe, the ridicule that ensued to the thread rating post was potentially bothersome.

Someone is very bored!
Someone is bored. Part II

Just a hunch,
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That would be my guess, too. Honestly though, what else could one expect? The very idea of publicly outing a member for irritating her friend was ludicrous. It was crystal clear that IrishBlonde was favoring the member who keeps complaining that her threads are rated too highly and it's wrong for a mod to use their position to threaten any member or show favoritism to certain posters. A mod should at least try to be impartial.

I doubt there's anything personal in the ridicule. I suspect that any mod would have gotten the same reaction under those circumstances. I do wish IrishBlonde had followed through with her threat and outed the thread rater. It would have made for interesting reading! I thought the whole idea was ridiculous but it was very entertaining. I really did laugh at loud at 'Someone is bored. Part II' and I bet others did, too. People laughed because the threads were funny. Some of the posts were hilarious. Nothing against Irish but I have to admit, I just love Nightowl's new signature line!
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:27 PM
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I thought they were funny too! I don't get the rating and don't care. I just read the posts that might interest me, stars or no stars.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:28 PM
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I'm not a detective and I don't play one on TV, but maybe, just maybe, the ridicule that ensued to the thread rating post was potentially bothersome.

Someone is very bored!
Someone is bored. Part II

Just a hunch,
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Ya, and I gave that thread a 1 but I wasn't giving Irishblonde a 1.I said in my post I thought she was a great person when I rated the thead.I was feeling bad for her as the thread continued to grow.Everybodys comments were just joking around about the subject but it was her that created it which probably made her feel really uncomfortable. I hope she is reading this and knows that I didn't mean to hurt her feelings by anything.
People were just poking at the subject for fun,but I think she thought we were poking at her.
Being an emotional person myself I can understand how she felt.
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Old 01-02-2008, 05:13 PM
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Excellent suggestion.

Just to add to mabear's invitation, I'd hope that all past mods can put some of their hurt feelings behind them and come chat again.

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With the turnover of mods on this board, could we have a private moderator.....We don't really have to know who they are do we?

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I thought it was going nicely when it first started back up, maybe we can get those mods. back???
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I thought it was going nicely when it first started back up, maybe we can get those mods. back???
Do you mean Cici, Sue and Nelly? I would love it, but think they are probably happier elsewhere
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That would be my guess, too. Honestly though, what else could one expect? The very idea of publicly outing a member for irritating her friend was ludicrous. It was crystal clear that IrishBlonde was favoring the member who keeps complaining that her threads are rated too highly and it's wrong for a mod to use their position to threaten any member or show favoritism to certain posters. A mod should at least try to be impartial.

I doubt there's anything personal in the ridicule. I suspect that any mod would have gotten the same reaction under those circumstances. I do wish IrishBlonde had followed through with her threat and outed the thread rater. It would have made for interesting reading! I thought the whole idea was ridiculous but it was very entertaining. I really did laugh at loud at 'Someone is bored. Part II' and I bet others did, too. People laughed because the threads were funny. Some of the posts were hilarious. Nothing against Irish but I have to admit, I just love Nightowl's new signature line!
I agree. I saw no sense in posting such a thing. If they really wanted to chastise the person, that should have been done behind the scenes, to avoid all of this. Honestly, people were just using the star system. It is a tool for us to use if we choose. Much like rep. points. And, I too, see no point to either.
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:36 PM
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Mods have a right to vent just as much as anyone else,even if its about being a mod,lol.We were all members before anyone became a mod. And we all have our bad days, including mods.
Being a mod can probably suck, you feel like people expect more from you as a person ,but your just the same old poster as you were before you were a mod, who cares, dares,loves, hates, crys and laughs.
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Mods have a right to vent just as much as anyone else,even if its about being a mod,lol.We were all members before anyone became a mod. And we all have our bad days, including mods.
Being a mod can probably suck, you feel like people expect more from you as a person ,but your just the same old poster as you were before you were a mod, who cares, dares,loves, hates, crys and laughs.
And yes, even may have an occasional temper tantrum.
But not throw tantrums and insult members as a MODERATOR!

If a mod has to vent, they should do it as a private member and not in their capacity as a mod. A mod needs to be impartial. If they can't manage that, than they should go back to being a private member and then they can vent to their heart's content.
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But not throw tantrums and insult members as a MODERATOR!

If a mod has to vent, they should do it as a private member and not in their capacity as a mod. A mod needs to be impartial. If they can't manage that, than they should go back to being a private member and then they can vent to their heart's content.
I think thats rediculous to have to log out and change usernames just because your a mod.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:31 PM
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But not throw tantrums and insult members as a MODERATOR!

If a mod has to vent, they should do it as a private member and not in their capacity as a mod. A mod needs to be impartial. If they can't manage that, than they should go back to being a private member and then they can vent to their heart's content.

Amen to that! If the mods are fair and even-handed and not blatant about who they do and don't like, things go much better. A mod that persists in showing her antipathy towards some posters is (deservedly, IMO) not going to have as easy a time of it as a mod that treats everyone the same, at least while she's performing her mod duties (whatever those are, I never got the point of the mods anyway).
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:57 PM
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On other sites such as YahooGroups, "moderated", means posts will not go up until they've been filtered through a moderator.

What I understand the MC policy to mean is that they let posts go up as soon as you submit them, but they'll take them down if they see one that violates their rules.
That is exactly correct. Posts go up right away but if we notice something against the rules or nasty we can take it down. We just want a friendly place where people are civil, you don't even have to be nice just civil

For now there is no official moderator for this particular board. Since it's a pretty wide open place where just about anything can be discussed, I'd like to try it and see what happens.
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Mods are volunteers, they do this because they care about the community. They help out by keeping the posts on topic which is very helpful in the boards that have a very specific purpose and by helping to keep things civil. They are part of the community. One of the reasons we stopped using the MCLeader names was to allow them to communicate and participate as themselves and to make it clear that they are part of the community just like everybody else.

The work they do is very helpful and it's their efforts that really help to make this place work but again they are people, they are members of the community and they certainly can participate within the community they care enough for to serve.

You guys can hammer away at me all you want. I can take it. You can complain about the site or MyCoupons in general. We can take it. However, when it comes to the mods, I need you to cut them a break. They are doing their best and serving this community and there is no need to rip on them, again they are volunteers.

One of the points that is made in the bullets above is that we reserve the right to yank a post for just about any reason. I hate to have posts or threads deleted, I want a place that people are free to discuss anything they want to discuss but if one of our volunteer mods feels she is being attacked, I'll just remove the thread or post myself and if it continues I'll have no choice but to ban. I really, really don't want to have to do that. Again, just give them a break, remember they are volunteers and that we want a friendly community. We are all adults and there really is no need for childish games, now is there?
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Do you mean Cici, Sue and Nelly? I would love it, but think they are probably happier elsewhere
And where would that be I wonder?
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I have a feeling that "they" are watching.....maybe it's not so nice over the rainbow
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I have a feeling that "they" are watching.....maybe it's not so nice over the rainbow
Actually its quite yummy.That is if your eating a box of Hersheys pot of gold!
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I think thats rediculous to have to log out and change usernames just because your a mod.
I'm of the opinion that you should either be a mod or be a member. You can't be both. If you want to express your opinion, take sides in an argument, show preferential treatment to other poster--then you should not even attempt to be a mod. If you can set aside your opinion, remain neutral, show fair and unbiased treatment to each and EVERY poster then you should be a moderator.

It's kind of like of when you are a volunteer in your child's classroom--if you can't treat all the children equally and NOT show your own child preferential treatment then you shouldn't volunteer in that classroom! It's as simple as this: If the rule is no running in the halls and your child is running in the halls--do you punish him or the little girl that just happened to say "hey, you're not suppose to be running!"
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It's kind of like of when you are a volunteer in your child's classroom--if you can't treat all the children equally and NOT show your own child preferential treatment then you shouldn't volunteer in that classroom! It's as simple as this: If the rule is no running in the halls and your child is running in the halls--do you punish him or the little girl that just happened to say "hey, you're not suppose to be running!"
So are you using your intimate knowledge that we should all be treated like children?
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I'm of the opinion that you should either be a mod or be a member. You can't be both. If you want to express your opinion, take sides in an argument, show preferential treatment to other poster--then you should not even attempt to be a mod. If you can set aside your opinion, remain neutral, show fair and unbiased treatment to each and EVERY poster then you should be a moderator.

It's kind of like of when you are a volunteer in your child's classroom--if you can't treat all the children equally and NOT show your own child preferential treatment then you shouldn't volunteer in that classroom! It's as simple as this: If the rule is no running in the halls and your child is running in the halls--do you punish him or the little girl that just happened to say "hey, you're not suppose to be running!"

Theres always going to be one kid in the class thats going to think you are showing favoritism just because you happen to not look at them as much as the others.Like who is going to keep track ?
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Again, mods are members just like a square is also a rectangle. They are part of the community and performing a service as volunteers for the community. The boards other than this one have pretty clear purposes and it makes it fairly obvious when a thread is right for the freebies board or the Internet shopping board.

With this particular board, the topics are wide open so moderating it becomes a much more subjective thing. So no more mods here, something we've not really done before but we'll see how it goes.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:04 PM
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I'm of the opinion that you should either be a mod or be a member. You can't be both. If you want to express your opinion, take sides in an argument, show preferential treatment to other poster--then you should not even attempt to be a mod. If you can set aside your opinion, remain neutral, show fair and unbiased treatment to each and EVERY poster then you should be a moderator.

It's kind of like of when you are a volunteer in your child's classroom--if you can't treat all the children equally and NOT show your own child preferential treatment then you shouldn't volunteer in that classroom! It's as simple as this: If the rule is no running in the halls and your child is running in the halls--do you punish him or the little girl that just happened to say "hey, you're not suppose to be running!"
I'm sure the teacher is gonna get sick of yelling "Don't run in the halls" 8 hrs. a day.Give them a break.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:10 PM
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I'm sure the teacher is gonna get sick of yelling "Don't run in the halls" 8 hrs. a day.Give them a break.
A GOOD teacher has learned how to deal with the children and doesn't NEED to yell the same thing for 8 hours a day.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:18 PM
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A GOOD teacher has learned how to deal with the children and doesn't NEED to yell the same thing for 8 hours a day.
Well, that was a very LUCKY teacher!
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