I really feel like one of the gang now with my first derep. I only have one question if anyone wouldn't mind answering it for me.What is a brown noser?

Someone who is so far up someone else's a$$ that their nose turns brown!! Is that what you got called!!!! I hope you found it amusing and moved on!

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Brown noser - someone who sticks their nose up someone else's behind for favor...or any one of a million other similar definitions.

1. brown-noser

Alike to the term "rear" kisser, brown-noser is a person who obviously has his/her head to close to the dirty "rear" of some person (or something).

2. brown-noser

a person who tries to please (esp. one's boss) so much that their nose turns brown from kissing their "rear".


Gee, who gave you that one, I wonder?

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and so are you !

are we talking about brown noser mark11118 the TLJ club??

its MRK, dumba$$ no A, so get it right and thats one thing I've never been called! So thanks!

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OOPS sorry!. My mistake!..... mrk11118

I did apologize.

good as long as you got it right, don't try to bring it if you can't do it correctly!

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hmmmmm, a newbie that knows about TLJ?

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Like I said, I have been lurking and reading for awhile now.... doesn't take a moron to read past posts to find out what the heck is going on around here!

No, but it takes one to believe that hillbillylady is your only ID!

So how you know you've got a bad rep anyway? just wondering, I couldnt care less one way or another the rep thing seems like the clover wars to me maybe cause i dont know anyone really well to bother, there's a few that I've pmed a couple times cause they live in my home state but that's about it heheh

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Well I've been around for many years and I still don't know what TLJ or whatever it is means. And I still don't know how to check rep points. And I still get up everyday and go about my regular routine...... why get so worked up over piddly things?

I just think that it is funny how this 'person' thought (and did) something to stir up such drama. Well it worked..

I feel like part of the gang now.. she zinged me too...

YIPPIE!

Really thinking it... 01-02-2008 08:12 AM cougarskies Gag

Well unforntately it takes all kinds to make a board effective, and today we are seeing more and more of the negative people. Just remember that there are other nicer ones out there, somewhere. Who are probably to scared to come out and play with all this nastiness going on.

**ugarski** speaking of which, you derepped me why???????????????? Get a life. Or better yet, a new board!

I was going to say the same thing. Dolly I don't know who or why someone would derep you, i for one like your post

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WEll, it "may" have been in error. I got "repped" a few days ago, and the person left a nice comment (seriously nice, not being sarcastic) but, negatively repped me. I'm sure no one would know unless I publicly announced, and I don't see a point in that. I think the whole rep thing is silly, and really serves very little purpose (that I can see, anyway).

To see your most recent reps, click on USER CP on the upper left, then scroll down a bit. If it is a green box, you got positive, if it is grey (used to be red) it was a disapproving rep.

I think it is being used by some as a retalitory tool. Others use it to leave nice comments, and they are fun to read. It really surprises me when I see some of the nice things stated. A lot of times I think I am coming off in a way I did not intend.

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I agree they have little to no value
I was reading your post and checked my usercp and I had a red rep there. It was given on 12/31, and it was given for a post I made on a thread 5 weeks ago!

It shows that some one is being very childish! I hope they had fun!
I guess some nice person made me green again before I ever saw it!
Thanks to who ever made me green.!

Hey Shirley!

You are not alone!

Cougarskies dinged me for something I said in a post about shopping with a baby because she doesn't want to stay home...or something like that...whatever!

Guess when you are bored, you just attack everyone you can! And people tell me I stir the pot...

Happy New Year!

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yup, I got derepped yesterday--from a post made on 11/20. I hope Cougar Skies is getting paid for all of her research on these boards, as it must be VERY time consuming going through EVERY freaking post to find anyone and everyone who has ever said a naughty word against her opinions. Here is why I was derepped....

here is Cougarsk**s response to another post when a little boy's best friend's father was killed in Iraq----

After all, most 10 year old boys don't 'cry like a girl'. Most of them would not do what your son did, especially a soldier's son. It sounds to me like your son needs counseling whether he's Special Needs or not. Obviously, he's having major difficulty with his fears and needs help. He needs to talk to someone about it. Blaming the teacher for not being understanding enough might make you feel better but it won't help your son get better. If I were you, I would concentrate on helping my son instead of wasting time trying to shift the focus to the teacher's reaction to your son's problem.

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And here is my reply to her very heartless response:

wow, must be nice to be you-so heartless w/ no compassion. Did you REALLY just say this out loud??????????????

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Really, Cougarskies, you had to go back over a whole month to find yet another person who disagreed w/ you and complain? I think you should check out this website for your own well-being:


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That is the same post I got zapped for:
I guess I shouldn't have told everyone what my DH said

I got neg'd because I wrote in a post that my TiVo was broken. Not sure if it was intended to be a neg or what-couldn't exactly tell by the comment! LOL

Maybe some people are just testing out the rep feature on random people to see how it works and what happens when you get a rep or derep.

Me too Me too!!

11/20 I posted to CS' awful comment on the little boy who's friend's dad was killed in Iraq with...

Cougarskies....I don't even know what to say or how to express what I am thinking about your awful post. I honestly do not know how a person can be so heartless and cold. I sure hope you do not have children and if you do GOD HELP THEM!! Do you even tell your family you love them? Geez....



And she derepped me on 12/31 with "God help wimps". Ummm ok....

No, I don't think it could be a mistake on a thread that old!
And I don't think it was to test the feature!


I had said that DH remarked that it was discrimination and I hadn't thought of that.

the Rep message left was - "of course you did "
How would anyone know what I thought???

I don't get any of this. If I understand correctly, some people don't like someone who has another point of view to post publicly, yet when this person uses forum tools to leave that person a disagreeable message privately, it is made public ???

I don't know CS; however, I appreciate knowing when people don't agree with me because it makes me rethink my position to make sure I am secure in my point of view. I don't take it personally. When I disagree with someone, I am disagreeing with their idea, not judging them as a person.

Well, I guess some people have different ways of getting their kicks.
Leave a mysterious message with a derep and spend the rest of the day laughing to yourself over the expression on their face when they discover it.
LMAO!

*The above post was not directed at anyone that may use sticky notes for pleasure.

I agree with you, most of the time. But what exactly are people supposed to come away with like this?

Really thinking it... 01-02-2008 08:12 AM cougarskies Gag

What should be done with that? Rethink their position on gagging?

linnybop got it, but didn't post what was said. I can't imagine it's some stellar insight.

Snoodles74 got: And she derepped me on 12/31 with "God help wimps". Ummm ok....

Another gem of wisdom?

How about this one?

grannyshirl: I had said that DH remarked that it was discrimination and I hadn't thought of that. the Rep message left was - "of course you did "

Feedback left for me was just as idiotic as the rest.

It seems pretty obvious to some posting that they feel the same, it's nonsense. Sugar coat it all you want, all it becomes is sugar coated nonsense. CS didn't want any type of discussion or it would have been done out in the open.

As far as what's private, if a person doesn't like what is said behind the scenes out in the open, then maybe he/she shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Sorry, "gag" and "of course you did" are NOT national secrets. It's not a betraying of a confidence. If CS gets called out for something he/she shouldn't be doing in the first place, too bad. I've seen several posts of CS get called to task for their harshness and content. What it looks like is that someone got their undies in a knot and decided to retaliate in a very childish way. Reading many of his/her posts, my personal opinion is that CS likes to do nothing but stir the pot. Far cry from adults exchanging thoughts.

Totally different than just giving a difference of opinion. I'm all for a discussion and differences of opinion are what makes life grand. Childish temper tantrums do not.

So, do you think all the complaining will stop this person from derepping in the future?Maybe they don't care what anyone thinks of them.If anything they might just do it more.

I guess I still don't get it. I have received a few PM's and Rep messages that I felt were inappropriate. I take a moment to consider what the author said, and then go on with my life. I didn't even know I got the rep messages until just recently. The rep message is a forum tool. If people don't like it, perhaps they should present their concerns to the forum managers. Same with the silly star thing IMO.

CS is CS. Let it go.

If you want something more important to do, there is an opening on my welcoming committee

ROTFL, I guess I need a kleenex for my nose!

For the sake of this board, I was going to let this go and not even mention this very important fact but Linnybop will not let this go. She apparently has a burning desire to see this board in turmoil!

So I WILL tell you you what really happened.

My negative reps were NOT for entertainment value. They were RETALIATORY!

That's right folks, these people negged me FIRST because they didn't think I was caring enough in my reply to Mabear's post. Then they whined and complained when I negged them back!

As I have already stated TWICE, the thread named 'Someone's Bored Part 2' reminded me of rep points and I remembered that thread from the month before because of all the insults. I knew my reputation points had gone down after that thread but I didn't know until the SB2 thread that you could see who it was that negged you. I checked to see who had given me negative rep and I returned the favor to those who were listed. Since I had received far more negative reps for that particular thread than the list will show, I just went down the thread and negged those who had outright insulted me.

Not those that disagreed with me, only those that insulted me! (For instance I did not neg BrendaRawson even though she held a different opinion and clearly didn't like mine. I only negged those who went beyond calling me 'heartless'.) In each neg, I left a comment pertaining to that person's reply in that specific thread.

The only exception to my negs given to those who insulted me was Grannyshirl. I negged Grannyshirl because she was clearly implying that a discrimination lawsuit should be filed against the teacher and/or school and I don't like lawsuits just for the sake of getting a few bucks. I also negged Dnj51 because I thought it inappropriate for a mod to share her personal opinion in a negative way toward another poster who was simply giving the ASKED FOR opinion. As I did with all, I left a personal comment for Dnj51's neg, stating 'Unprofessional Moderation'. I still believe that to be the case. It is my personal opinion that a mod should not post in a negative way toward another poster while they are posting as a 'Moderator'. I thought her post was inappropriate and said so USING THE TOOL THAT MY COUPONS PROVIDED FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE to do it.

I did not revisit ANY other threads and did not leave negative reputation for anyone who did not insult me in that [b]one]/b] thread. I did spread some positive reputation in new threads but no negatives.

On Jan 2, Moderator Dnj51, created the highly inappropriate thread calling a member out by name on the boards because she was negged (like a moderator has never been negged before?) and shared my personal feedback comment to her with the whole board. Dnj51 felt that she should be able to give her opinion however she wanted to, moderator or not.

Instant board turmoil ensued. The very same people who were so quick to neg me felt that they were treated unfairly because hey, they weren't negged the same day! For that I say, so what? I would have been glad to neg you the same day but I didn't think of it until I found out who had negged me. Next time, I'll try to do it more promptly! LOL.

After Moderator Dnj51 created her trouble causing thread, the multiple user names came out to play and more were created. It ended up where posters who don't have any guts posted under brand new identities instead of their usual names. They ran around insulting me and other members, the negs flew, and they had fun, fun, fun.

Greg decided enough was enough and some of the new troublemakers were banned and threads were deleted.

Linnybob wants to stir it all up again and has now quoted me out of context from the original thread that was negged back and forth. She completely left out the entire first paragraph of my response! That's pretty scummy. It's bad enough that Linnybop is trying to stir the pot again and get the board shut down but using any means to do it is even worse. I'm going to list the ENTIRE post so you can see what a difference her editing job makes.

In the original back and forth neg post, the Mabear posted that her son's best friend received news at school that his father had been killed. Her 10 year old son became hysterical because he was so worried that his father might be killed, too. A teacher told him to suck it up and stop acting like a girl. The boy continued the hysterics and the mother was called to the school. The OP wanted to beat up the teacher, other posters suggested costing her her job, and one implied that a gender discrimination lawsuit was in order!

I told the OP that she was right to be upset if her child was a Special Needs child (because a teacher should understand that such a child can't control themselves) but that her son needed help whether he was Special Needs or not. I (and only I ), thought that the teacher's remark wasn't the only (or even biggest) problem. I thought that fixing the teacher for not being properly sympathetic was nothing but a Band-Aid. It might help them feel better but it doesn't help the child. As I saw it, there were only two options. Have Daddy quit his job or help the child learn to deal with the dangers of his father's occupation. I suggested counseling. It was and still is my personal opinion that any 10 year old's soldier's son who becomes so hysterical in school at the thought of their father's death that they have to be removed, needs counseling to help them deal with their fears.

Apparently, everyone else in the thread believed that it's completely fine for a 10 year old's soldier's son to become so hysterical at the thought of their father's death that they have to be removed from school. They believed that a 10 year old boy can become hysterical whenever and wherever he feels like it and the teacher and everyone else should be more understanding. For daring to suggest that the child needed help, I was villified and repeatedly negged.

When I learned how to see who had negged me, I returned fire and the mod called me out on the boards for using a tool that My Coupons provides and actually encourages! She broke the very rules that she's supposed to be enforcing and created a thread guaranteed to cause trouble. It did and bedlam ensued.

I don't take any responsibility for any of the brouhaha. None of it was my fault. All I did was express my opinion and get insulted and negged for it. They used the tool that My Coupons provides to neg my response because they didn't 'Approve'. Fine. When I used the very same tool that My Coupons provides to neg the responses for which I didn't 'Approve', the moderator started a thread to complain about it!

I think the rating system is worthless and couldn't care less about REP points. There's no doubt that there are many, many multiple IDs on this board and they just log in and out of their accounts to give positive reps to themselves. They do the same when they give negative reps to others so I can't understand getting upset about a rating syatem that's completely meaningless.

In the past week, responses to a thread about the rating system apparently caused one mod to quit this board. Another mod was so upset after the use of the rating system that she broke the Rules of Play that she was supposed to be enforcing. Some members became so upset after the use of the rating system that they created new identities just to insult and cause trouble. Other members began to think about leaving the war torn board. More wondered if the board would close. Maybe the rating system isn't such a good idea since so many can't handle the pressure.

The bottom line is that the rating system is a tool. Use it or don't use it. If you care about your REP points, it's not a good idea to insult and neg other members. They might neg you. It's as simple as that.


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am I overreacting?

Posted by cougarskies

Whether you're overeacting depends on whether your son has a diagnosed problem and the teacher already knows that he's unable to control himself. Is he in a special needs class at school?

Your 10 year old son certainly is overeacting. Have you thought about getting him professional help? It sounds like he has a problem processing his emotions. It's not 'normal' for a 10 year old boy to have hysterics at school and have his mother come get him. It's not 'normal' for a 10 year old boy to cry hysterically at the very idea that it could have been his father dead instead and I can't say I really blame the teacher. I'm sure that your son's hysterics made a horrible situation much worse for everyone there and she was trying to make him stop working himself up. The other child's father just died and your son immediately shifted the focus to all about himself! I imagine that the teacher found that irritating. In today's politically correct world, it was a mistake for the teacher to tell your son to suck it up and quit acting like a girl but whether you like it or not, she just said what others were thinking.

After all, most 10 year old boys don't 'cry like a girl'. Most of them would not do what your son did, especially a soldier's son. It sounds to me like your son needs counseling whether he's Special Needs or not. Obviously, he's having major difficulty with his fears and needs help. He needs to talk to someone about it. Blaming the teacher for not being understanding enough might make you feel better but it won't help your son get better. If I were you, I would concentrate on helping my son instead of wasting time trying to shift the focus to the teacher's reaction to your son's problem.

Retaliation? Suck it up, cougarskies. Seriously. If that many people gave you negative rep on that post, maybe they were on to something and your behavior/post truly was inappropriate. Ya think?

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All I am going to say here, is that (please, correct me if I'm wrong) , I never derepped you. Until all this "turmoil" started, I really never paid much attention to it. If I did derep you, (but I just don't remember doing that) then congrats, you would be the first and only person I have ever derepped in my life. Yes, I did leave a negative comment-in the post. I still believe your remarks were callous. If your intentions were to provide support, it surely came out in a most negative way. Gotta' go now. It's .....really..hard to tyyyyyype. My arms are sooo sore from....all of this stirring.

I'm glad your still with us Cougerskies.Hope everything works out.

Cougarskies, You were probably quite correct about your original underlying message that it was more importanat to help the student than to ream out the teacher.

However, I think your original point was missed because of the insensitive way it was written.

It seems strange to defend any teacher who accuses a child of "acting like a girl" - we're mostly women, aren't we? Why defend someone who suggests that acting like a girl is inferior to acting like a boy?

It probably is time, though, to look at your original post, and accept your role in that damage. You had a valid point to make, but the delivery made it seem unkind.

But, I digress. I'm personally glad you've answered the question of why all the negative repping - and now it makes a lot more sense. So thank you. Seriously. And I hope you stay - this, too, shall pass.

No, actually I still think my advice was sound. 'Hugs to You' may provide salve to the OP but how does it help her son? I think a 10 year old boy who has to be removed from school because his fear is that great needs help and he won't get it by pretending that he doesn't have a problem.

And whether my post was not phrased caringly enough isn't the point. Anyone who didn't like my post negged me.

Fair enough. I never complained about my negs.

But when I negged the posts that I didn't like, a mod called me out on the boards! That WASN'T fair. This ratings tool has been used THOUSANDS of times and it's what it's there for. The first time I used it, I was treated differently and condemned by hypocrites who negged me first!

That was the first time that you used it?

I think everyone here is guilty of being a little insensitive at one time or another.

I see your point of view to some degree CS. What I don't agree with at all is your take on the OP's problem. It is completely normal for a child to be upset by what happened, and normal doesn't require special counseling.

We all "see" different things in a post. We are all different and have different experiences. This particular poster had a very upsetting experience and lives daily with the fear that war brings. It was of no help to heap on yet more hurt by suggesting what you did about her son. I know you see it differently or you wouldn't have posted what you did, nonetheless your post was crass and hurtful, not at all helpful. I am not one to "hug" others online frequently either. Many times there is post after post relating what I feel so I leave it be. And there are times when I think to myseld "suck it up" but just let it go because that would be of no use to the poster at the time.
Sometimes the truth hurts, so when we feel we must be truthful, maybe we should temper that "truth" with some kindness, especially to those that are already hurting.

You said it yourself though, the negs (which I personally could care less about) were retaliatory. So maybe it wasn't what you did, but why.
All of this could have been handled better..........live and learn......hopefully.

I really didn't mean to defend the teacher and I never thought of it as suggesting that acting like a girl is inferior to acting like a boy. I really meant that I thought what the teacher said wasn't the real issue and I couldn't understand why no one else thought that it was small beans compared to the childs problem. No one else seemed to think he had a problem and just kept saying how normal it was.

In retrospect, I think I should have been more careful and not dashed off my post as fast as I did. My reply was obviously interpreted in a way I didn't intend, and yes, that was my fault for not being more clear and not taking the time to preface it with the niceties.

The people in the thread didn't like it and negged and insulted me. I didn't get upset and tell the world about it. I didn't like what they said and did so I negged them too.

I understand what you mean but really, the negs are neither here nor there. They used a tool and insults to express their displeasure with what I wrote. I used the same tool to express my displeasure with what they wrote.and a moderator made a huge deal out of it on the boards.

So while I admit that I should have been more careful in my original post, it still isn't my fault that it played out the way it did. All I did was use the neg feature. The mod started the complaint thread. How many hundreds of members have used ithe neg feature and that was that? I use it and the mod publicaly starts an argument that eventually involved the whole board! Really, that was wrong and unfair.

Yeah, yeah, I know life's not fair but the moderation on a message board really should be, don't you think?

So "gag" is something you would take a moment to consider? lol What would be the deep thought in that? Or any of the others?

I'm not sure what relevance this has. Each person is each person. So no one should ever hold anyone accountable for their own words or actions? No one should ever complain or take issue just because "so-and-so is so-and-so?" Come on.

Point blank, CS took what is/was supposed to be a tool to aid or support or disagree (not in a free for all fashion, I'm sure) and did nothing more than rank people out. He/she dug up weeks old posts and jabbed at people. If you find that acceptable behavior, fine. I'm seeing plenty that don't.

I have plenty to do and none of it entails sitting at a computer on a holiday, searching for 5-week old posts that I can "nanny-nanny-boo-boo!" people on. If you meaning something slightly more edged......well, you're in this thread too.

Oh boy and WOW, this sure says a lot. Maybe you need to start taking responsibility for your share. If you seriously think you have none, then you have much bigger problems and I'm very sorry for that.

CS, I hope you read devinmoms posts many many times and get a good understanding of what she's saying, it's very dead on.

As far as what you said in regards to that little boy:

It's not 'normal' for a 10 year old boy to cry hysterically at the very idea that it could have been his father dead instead and I can't say I really blame the teacher. <snip> The other child's father just died and your son immediately shifted the focus to all about himself! I imagine that the teacher found that irritating. In today's politically correct world, it was a mistake for the teacher to tell your son to suck it up and quit acting like a girl but whether you like it or not, she just said what others were thinking.

After all, most 10 year old boys don't 'cry like a girl'. Most of them would not do what your son did, especially a soldier's son.

Unless you're a child psychiatrist/psychologist specializing in military life, how could you possibly know any of that? You spoke like you were some authority on the matter and telling the OP her son's behavior was not normal. Do you have extensive experience dealing with 10 yr old boys who's fathers are in a war right now? A teacher that tells a child to suck it up in front of other students (and you can't POSSIBLY know what the others were thinking, come on now) is a bad example. It's her responsibility not only as an adult, but a teacher to productively teach children to deal with difficult situations, not smart-mouthing and making it worse.

It's kind of sad you can't see how bad what you're saying is. Numerous problems, but I know you'll never see it.

You just can't let it go, can you? Here were a few posts that resembled a kumbaya moment and you go and continue repeating your angry thoughts.

The committee comment was an effing JOKE.

Over the last few days, two mods and a few who think their feet never stink are the actual ones who incited this sad little riot.

Props to you CS - even though I don't agree with you too often, I appreciate your honesty. Cheers!

"Here were a few posts that resembled a kumbaya moment " (quote from nightowlrn)

thanks for the laugh ;0)

CS is honest and I'm angry. lol Are you sure you're not hyping up a buddy? It doesn't seem like we read the same post.

I can tell you I'm not angry at all. You said more than once you "didn't get it", so I attempted to explain. If that makes me angry in your book, so be it I guess.

I don't think the words "sad little riot" would be used if all this were directed at a mod instead of a member. But hey, I must just be angry! lol