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Old 01-06-2008, 12:25 AM
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Brittney Spears Released from the hosp.

ABC News: Britney Breaks Out: Star Leaves Hospital

I do not get this. I thought she was in on an involuntary hold for the mandated 72 hours. Please help me understand how this stuff happens. This is crazy!!
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:35 AM
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The mandatory hold is up to 72 hours. The hospital cannot keep her if she wants out unless she is deemed a danger to herself or others, by court order.

This is pretty typical, and is a big challenge for families dealing with mentally ill members.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:42 AM
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What happened to a 2wPC admission? You mean to tell me that there are not 2 physicians in that hospital who have a little doubt that she could be a danger to herself?

This is bizarre. And I really don't even care about the whole fiasco. Not a fan of her or anything. Just a parent who sees a trainwreck coming down the tracks.

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Old 01-06-2008, 04:25 AM
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Has anyone ever heard exactly what drug she is supposedly on? It has to be something wicked. It's sad to watch someone publically unravel like she has.
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Has anyone ever heard exactly what drug she is supposedly on? It has to be something wicked. It's sad to watch someone publically unravel like she has.
I heard from someone who said they were "in the know" that her toxicology results came back negative. She wasn't on anything (so they said).
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:52 AM
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Don't have any idea if it could actually be true, but maybe she was just freaking out over having to hand her kids away to someone else. Her other actions have been bizarre, but could that have been it? I know I have alwys said that if anyone ever tried to take my kids, I would move underground in Russia....
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This is a possibility also (it could just be a way of covering up) but I read that Jayden had a bruise on him (I think I read it on TMZ) and she didn't do it, and that is why she didn't want to return him.

Now, if that is the case, I understand! If I thought my child was getting hurt in any way, I wouldn't want to return either. She is young and stupid enough to react impulsively (and her bipolar probably doesn't help) and not think it through, take some pictures, call DCFS, return the kids and handle it in court. If that is true, she should have done it that way.. but when you are not thinking clear and things around you are so crazy-I can understand if that is what she did and why she did it.

I do feel she is a spoiled brat, however, with a huge sense of entitlement. This is totally not helping her and is impeding her thought processes, don't you think?
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Old 01-06-2008, 07:58 PM
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(and her bipolar probably doesn't help)
When was she diagnosed with BPD?
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:40 AM
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When was she diagnosed with BPD?

Truble, I am not sure if she has ever been diagnosed with it, but from all aocounts wouldn't you agree that her behavior is charachteristic of BPD?
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:18 AM
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Truble, I am not sure if she has ever been diagnosed with it, but from all aocounts wouldn't you agree that her behavior is charachteristic of BPD?
I don't think we know nearly enough about what else she's doing in her private life-- such as it may be -- to say that. Her behaviors could be caused by any number of factors, including BPD, but I wouldn't be willing to state that she has is until we know more.
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I don't think we know nearly enough about what else she's doing in her private life-- such as it may be -- to say that. Her behaviors could be caused by any number of factors, including BPD, but I wouldn't be willing to state that she has is until we know more.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:48 AM
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This is what I read about it all:

Last night as Britney was sensationally released from hospital after throwing a tantrum, a source close to the warring couple revealed: "Kevin knew she was on the edge and might snap at any time. "Knowing there were TWO firearms in the house, including the Beretta, he wasn't taking any chances— hence the massive police response." In the most nightmare week yet of Britney's crazed life, we can also reveal that although NOT high on illegal drugs she: SWALLOWED bottles of 'hillbilly heroin'—a highly-addictive drug called OxyContin that's killed hundreds in America, BINGED on a mindbending cocktail of more prescription drugs before defying the police, PLEADED with Kevin to SELL her the kids for a multi-million payoff in a tearful phone call, FOUGHT with bodyguards to hang on to her children, BASHED her own head against the wall in a fit of blind rage.


CRAZED BRITNEY swallowed a deadly cocktail of more than ONE HUNDRED prescription tablets in the 36 hours before her custody meltdown, the News of the World can reveal. And the singer washed them all down with a Purple Monster— a mind-blowing home-made cocktail of vodka, American Nyquil anti-flu syrup and an energy drink like Red Bull. A long-term friend of the star told us: "It looks like everything in her medicine cabinet went down her neck. It seems she was only saved from falling into a coma as the drugs in her system almost counteracted each other." The cocktail included: TWO bottles of Nyquil, TWENTY diet pills, including her favourite brand Clenbuterol, EIGHTEEN herbal uppers specially ordered over the internet, EIGHTEEN Piriton antihistamine tablets, TWELVE Vicodin painkillers, TEN sleeping pills, UP TO eight antacid reflux tabs, ONE bottle of stomach upset mixture Pepto Bismol, TEN Zantac tablets, an anti-hangover and indigestion drug, SIX Ritalin, for her attention deficit disorder issues, TWO empty bottles of painkiller Oxycontin, known as hillbilly heroin, were also found at her home. Her pal said: "Britney is always taking something to ease her nerves or keep her weight down. But her instability meant she just wanted an instant cure to all her anxieties, so she just kept taking more and more drugs and drink until she felt it worked. She told us she made a Purple Monster to calm her nerves. She has had this weird concoction in the past, and only takes it when she is seriously disturbed."



She seriously needs help desperately but I have to say that it doesn't look like her mother really cares at all!!!!
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:21 PM
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She seriously needs help desperately but I have to say that it doesn't look like her mother really cares at all!!!!
Well, her mother was very busy writing her book on PARENTING! ROFL! What's next? The Michael Vick book called 'Man's Best Friend'?
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:39 PM
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The reports that I read stated that the toxicology report came back negative and that there were no drugs or alcohol in her system. The report you listed seems like someone made it up for sensationalism; possibly someone that 'claims' to be Britney's close friend and gave some random story for money. I used to think that Britney deserved all the drama that she caused but my opinion has changed to one of pity; I honestly think there is some mental disorder, perhaps originating from post-partum depression. My birth mom did the same thing, she didn't get medical intervention and ended up schizophrenic.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:48 PM
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I hear now that the family called in Dr. Phil and he showed up at the hospital right after she was discharged. What I heard is he talked to her for over an hour and is supposed to follow up with her. If I'm not mistaken, he's going to use it on his show -- maybe today??? I'm not sure. I'll have to check online and be sure.

I think if something's not done soon, she's going to OD or kill someone else. It's a shame when these girls let fame and fortune do this to them.

Edited to add Dr. Phil's statement:

"As was widely reported this weekend, at the request of concerned family members, I visited Britney Spears in the hospital. The details of that visit will, of course, remain private.

"We had planned to tape a Dr. Phil Now show today, focusing not on the tabloid side of Britney’s latest problems, but instead on the very serious issues surrounding this case. Clearly, it is not just Britney's family struggling to find a way to protect adult children who cannot be ordered or compelled to seek help.

"Because the Spears situation is too intense at this time, and out of consideration to the family, I have made the decision not to move forward with the taping at this particular time.

"Britney and her family are in our prayers and we ask that they be in yours."

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:40 PM
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Dr. Phil, publicity whore. He's disgusting.
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Dr. Phil, publicity whore. He's disgusting.

ITA -- if he is, as he claims, a "friend" of the family his visit to the hospital and any conversation he has with her would never be fodder for his tv show. Jerkoff
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Ugh -- he's on ET RIGHT NOW talking about how much help she needs. Right, Phil, you're just helping yourself, you pig.
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ITA -- if he is, as he claims, a "friend" of the family his visit to the hospital and any conversation he has with her would never be fodder for his tv show. Jerkoff

Unless Britney asked for him to be at the hospital, them letting him into her hospital room to see her would be a breech of patient rights, I would think anyway.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:51 PM
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Unless Britney asked for him to be at the hospital, them letting him into her hospital room to see her would be a breech of patient rights, I would think anyway.
I heard the family asked that he come. Gosh, at least maybe she will get some help!!
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:06 PM
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I get all the Brittney hype and how there is interest because she is in the public eye, but there are young girls without teh money a fame, all over going through similar situations. It makes me incredibly sad, but I really have a hard time feeling too sorry for her.

I don't even know how to express how I feel. It just makes me sick that she's getting all this attention. WHO CARES!! The young stupid mom thing just hits too close to home for me.....
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:41 AM
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I heard the family asked that he come. Gosh, at least maybe she will get some help!!
It's hard to believe that even her trashy family asked him to talk about it on ET, though, isn't it?

I thought this piece was interesting:

Experts chide Dr. Phil over Spears drama
Mental health professionals accuse him of exploiting the pop singer’s woes
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updated 9:31 p.m. ET, Mon., Jan. 7, 2008

LOS ANGELES - Dr. Phil’s public brand of tough love sometimes makes him tough to love, particularly among mental health professionals who are accusing television’s self-help guru of making an uncalled-for house call on Britney Spears this week.

Although Dr. Phil — whose full name is Phillip McGraw — announced Monday that he is shelving plans for a show on Spears’ latest breakdown, some in the mental health community say just showing up at her hospital room last week was going too far.

“It’s true people sometimes need to be placed under involuntary mental health treatment because they can’t take care of themselves,” veteran psychiatrist Dr. Jeffrey Sugar said of the 26-year-old Spears. “But there’s a difference between being detained involuntarily for psychological treatment and being forced to endure Dr. Phil involuntarily.”

Spears, who appeared to have enough trouble already, saw McGraw barge into her life Saturday when he showed up at her room at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center as she was about to be discharged. She had been taken there Thursday after an hours-long standoff with police that was triggered by her custody dispute with ex-husband Kevin Federline.

A court commissioner on Friday gave Federline full custody of sons, 1-year-old Jayden James and 2-year-old Sean Preston.

McGraw said he was invited to the hospital by Spears’ family.

Sugar, chief of child and adolescent psychiatry, crisis and emergency service for the University of Southern California, said that isn’t good enough. Late adolescent or not, he said, Spears is still an adult who has the right to decide who she lets into her hospital room.

In a statement posted on his Web site Monday, McGraw said he had hoped to film a show this week that might help other families facing the same troubles as Spears.

That’s assuming, of course, they have been in and out of rehab in recent months, arrived in public in short skirts and no underwear, shaved their heads bald, run over a photographer’s foot, banged up a car in a parking lot and left without notifying the owner, and attacked another car with an umbrella.

But in the end even McGraw, never to shy to blurt “What were you thinking?” to a troubled guest, seemed to agree that putting Spears or her family and friends in front of the cameras wasn’t wise.

“Because the Spears situation is too intense at this time, and out of consideration to the family, I have made the decision not to move forward with the taping,” he said on his Web site. He didn’t say whether he planned to do a show later, and a spokeswoman for the show declined to elaborate.

“Certainly I think it’s a good idea to stop that show dead,” said Dr. Richard Harding, professor of neuropsychiatry at the University of South Carolina. “This isn’t the time to be exploiting anybody and making examples out of anybody.”

UCLA sociologist Julie Albright, an expert in family therapy, agreed with Harding that while McGraw’s sometimes bellicose approach can be helpful under the right circumstances, Spears is in perhaps too fragile an emotional state for it.

“It looks as though her behavior has been unraveling for some time now. Frankly, it’s reached a point of being pretty frightening,” she said, adding that Spears should be on a suicide watch.

“People may have thought it was entertaining or funny, but really it’s a cry for help, and I hope people around her will respond and get her the help she needs,” Albright said.

Also, Albright said, the tough-love therapy that McGraw practices is really only the first of many steps therapists must take to change destructive behavior. What’s more, she said, it really only works when the recipient is receptive.

“It’s hard to do therapy or intervention in a half-hour or one hour-spot,” she said. “They have these longer interventions that they follow up with. That’s where important change will occur, not necessarily in the one-hour sound bite of a show.”

Still, at least one pop psychologist couldn’t fault McGraw for trying.

“I’m sure Dr. Phil does not want to exploit her. He has all this experience in helping people get over problems,” said Dr. Joyce Brothers, who herself has been dispensing psychological advice to TV viewers for more than 30 years.

But Brothers, who like McGraw has a Ph.D. in psychology, acknowledged that key for any therapist is getting the person to listen to them.

“He has a lot to offer,” Brothers said of McGraw. “But only to the person who wants it.”
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URL: Experts chide Dr. Phil over Spears drama - Mental health - MSNBC.com
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:46 AM
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I'm having a really hard time believing that someone could take all those drugs and still be alive. Sound like tabloid fodder to me.

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Last night as Britney was sensationally released from hospital after throwing a tantrum, a source close to the warring couple revealed: "Kevin knew she was on the edge and might snap at any time. "Knowing there were TWO firearms in the house, including the Beretta, he wasn't taking any chances— hence the massive police response." In the most nightmare week yet of Britney's crazed life, we can also reveal that although NOT high on illegal drugs she: SWALLOWED bottles of 'hillbilly heroin'—a highly-addictive drug called OxyContin that's killed hundreds in America, BINGED on a mindbending cocktail of more prescription drugs before defying the police, PLEADED with Kevin to SELL her the kids for a multi-million payoff in a tearful phone call, FOUGHT with bodyguards to hang on to her children, BASHED her own head against the wall in a fit of blind rage.


CRAZED BRITNEY swallowed a deadly cocktail of more than ONE HUNDRED prescription tablets in the 36 hours before her custody meltdown, the News of the World can reveal. And the singer washed them all down with a Purple Monster— a mind-blowing home-made cocktail of vodka, American Nyquil anti-flu syrup and an energy drink like Red Bull. A long-term friend of the star told us: "It looks like everything in her medicine cabinet went down her neck. It seems she was only saved from falling into a coma as the drugs in her system almost counteracted each other." The cocktail included: TWO bottles of Nyquil, TWENTY diet pills, including her favourite brand Clenbuterol, EIGHTEEN herbal uppers specially ordered over the internet, EIGHTEEN Piriton antihistamine tablets, TWELVE Vicodin painkillers, TEN sleeping pills, UP TO eight antacid reflux tabs, ONE bottle of stomach upset mixture Pepto Bismol, TEN Zantac tablets, an anti-hangover and indigestion drug, SIX Ritalin, for her attention deficit disorder issues, TWO empty bottles of painkiller Oxycontin, known as hillbilly heroin, were also found at her home. Her pal said: "Britney is always taking something to ease her nerves or keep her weight down. But her instability meant she just wanted an instant cure to all her anxieties, so she just kept taking more and more drugs and drink until she felt it worked. She told us she made a Purple Monster to calm her nerves. She has had this weird concoction in the past, and only takes it when she is seriously disturbed."



She seriously needs help desperately but I have to say that it doesn't look like her mother really cares at all!!!!
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:59 AM
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I have thought for about a year now that she just doesn't want the babies... IMHO, this has all been her orchestrated way of losing custody. She doesn't want them!

I think that it is hard for any of us to get our minds around it but I really thinks that she wants to go back to 'the way it was' before they came into her life.

It is a tragedy but I guess those babies are actually blessed to have a daddy who cares enough to step up to the plate.

Who'd have ever thought that K-Fed would be the one to take the high road in all of this???
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:57 AM
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The reports that I read stated that the toxicology report came back negative and that there were no drugs or alcohol in her system. The report you listed seems like someone made it up for sensationalism; possibly someone that 'claims' to be Britney's close friend and gave some random story for money. I used to think that Britney deserved all the drama that she caused but my opinion has changed to one of pity; I honestly think there is some mental disorder, perhaps originating from post-partum depression. My birth mom did the same thing, she didn't get medical intervention and ended up schizophrenic.
I agree with you - it was just the latest thing that I had read about this junk - so with all of it being said - I take it all with nothing more than a grain of salt!!!! She's off her rocker!!! Sure hope at some point she can get the real help she needs - otherwise she will never see her kids again!!!
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:54 AM
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I think she's bi-polar. I have no doubt she abuses drugs and alcohol but I think they're aggravating her problem, not causing it. On one hand, I feel a little sorry for her because I think there's not one soul in this whole world who really loves her and she knows it. On the other hand, she's 25 years old now, she's not a child anymore. She's a grown woman with two marriages and two children under her belt. It's time to start acting like it. The first step to improving her life is admitting that she has a problem. I'm sick of hearing that it's the pressures of fame that causes her to act this way. I think she needs medication and to lay off the partying if she wants a shot at regaining custody of her children. Unfortunately, I don't think she's as interested in her children as she is in the night life and I don't think she's ready to help herself yet. Her children are still young enough to make it not be too late for her to pull herself together and go on with no damage to their relationship. That won't always be the case. It's a shame to watch somebody trash their life but she has to be the one to salvage it before it's too late.
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