Missing pregnant Marine dead, sheriff says - CNN.com

so sad

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Sheriff: Pregnant missing Marine is dead - TODAY: People - MSNBC.com

here is another link

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How sad I thought how everyone was handling the case including her own mother's statements about her daugther was deplorable, had this been a male marine he would have been listed AWOL but because she is female and pregnant they went on as if she was mentally unstable and was letting her emotions override her life. The signs were all there from day one that something was wrong even I knew it was going to have somehting to do with the guy she accused of sexual assault. I am just sick to my stomache not only was a young womans life taken away but so was that of an innocent child. I hope they catch that piece of trash and he gets the full extent of NC punishment for murder, he deserves no less than death.

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I sure bet her mother feels like crap now... She was so ugly to say those nasty things about her daughter.. but watch at the 'trial' she will play the 'victims mother' to the hill.......

There are reports that they found burned human remains on the property of the Marine she accused of rape. I think it's plain to see he was trying to get rid of evidence (baby) how very sad.
I never understand why family members are so willing to give out such personal details to the press about their loved ones. I would not comment at all to the press, I would let the authorities handle the investigation.

I've felt something was fishy about this case since the first time I heard it. I have an itchy feeling that the Marines, Sheriff, and step-mom are all not to be trusted.
I have had a bad taste in my mouth right from the git go about how the young woman was trashed in the media - the ole *blame the vicitm* mentally.
And Sheriff Brown? He has gotten my hackles up more than anyone else.
I smell several cover-ups in this case.
MZ

This whole story has been hinky from the get-go. A friend of mine brought up a good question: Why didn't the media jumped on this story of a missing pregnant woman quicker? Remember some of the other missing pregnant women that went missing....

I'm interested to see how this one plays out and whether they ever find a body, whether the suspect ever faces charges....lots and lots of questions and very few answers. I still think that the girl may have started out trying to "hide".

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Okay, I am taking a risk here, hardly ever post my opinions from my own true life experiences, but my thinking here is that most folks don't *truly* understand how political law enforcement agencies are, be they military (especially!) or civilian work.
So to start off with ... I have been in the military, Vietnam Era vet myself, and have also had false accusations in the military as well as having allegations made against myself and dh due to a severely disturbed adopted child.
Both past experiences could(and nearly did!) ruined our lives.
We have been *more* than fortunate in that we had the the financial wherewithal, education, and temperaments to fight them.
My first caution to anyone reading*any* news reports in any type of media is to remember: there are always more than one side to *any* story. And there will often be more info than is ever reported.

My second caution is to remember, that no matter how many decent, *good* folks you know in law enforcement, either military or civilian, there are more stinkers in these professions than most folks would ever like to believe, or admit to, being the case. (and this comes from the grandaughter of a beat cop in NY).

It is important to remember that no matter what mass media you are getting your info from, that there is *always* a bias, always other info from that source that will not be freely released until it can no longer be avoided.

I was in the military in the 70's and was accused of a crime, it took a long time to get things straightened out and clear my name ( I was cleared of all charges, accuser was dishonorably discharged). I was a military journalist at that time, and editor of newsletter, so media bias was not a new thing to moi-self.

From *my* experiences during that whole mess I learned that the military, similar to civilian law enforcement agencies, do everything they can do to protect their own, to put the best possible spin on any given news story as it relate to the military and whatever the given news item is, especially if it is an event/item that *may* shine an unfavorable light on the military. Therefore, I have since always taken any military press releases w/ a grain of salt,

I am a stronger than average supporter of our US military forces, probably because I know how much is never released to the public in news stories (which, BTW, I agree with, and support 110%), because I understand better than the average citizen what *national security* is truly about. More so, especially, since I was one of those folks who gave press releases to civilian authorities.

But still, because of my own personal experiences with military justice and military PR, I take what I have learned from military and popular media with a grain a salt (and I can't help but adding a big fat *duh* here).

Nothing at all that I have read or heard via the media has made any sense at all in this case, it has made me extremely suspicious of what the real deal is.

And again, DH and myself have also been on the civilian receiving end of false allegations due a severely disturbed child. We have had more had more than enough experience with the civilian courts system in this country and how they work to have a strong distrust of any initial reports from those sources.

I am not jaded due to my experiences, but believe I am actually much more realistic about what I read or see or hear in popular media because of my experiences. Remember the old saying, *don't believe everything you hear or read*? It has become one of my mantras. And I had to learn it he hard way.

I remember stories my cop grandaddy related, and I remember my own experiences, that's how I make my judgments.

There are always, always, always more sides to any story and more info than is *usually* presented in any form of popular media.

The S.C. Sheriff (Brown?) has earned my distrust due his *plea* for Ms. Lauterbach (excuse any wrong spellings. please) to get in touch with her fam, especially since prior to his *plea* there had been media info about Ms.Lauterbach's poor relationship with her step -mother. He trusted her step-mom's info over any other irreffutable (sp?)evidence and made a public statement?!

I have repeatedly heard him (and other media reports) refer to her step-mom as her *mother*, and as anyone on the QT knows, there is a big diff twixt a *step-parent* and a bio- parent relationship, especially as it relates to inter-personal relationships. Those relationship dynamics are critical.
In this case, all I have ever read or heard from the step-mom has been derogatory towards Ms. Lauterbach. So who can believe that? (or at least, in my mind, I can not w/out further evidence)

I distrust the Marine account of this case because of my own experiences with the military spin, but also because when it comes to an enlisted person making allegations against an officer or another enlisted person of higher rank, this is not considered at all kosher.

Sheriff Brown held a news conf. today stating that due to evidence and info from a *former Marine* witness, Ms. Lauterbach was dead, her body was burned. Okay, fine. It may be true. But who on earth (within the communities of media and justice systems ) would release such a statement without proof positive (ie: an ID'ed body?! - that's just journalism 101 - the WWWW& Y )
IMNSHO, it has been a sloppy investigation at the least, and a curious cover up at the most.

It is now 8:38 CST, and I have yet to hear that a body has been recovered. How on earth could any law enforcement agency report that someone was dead without proof *positive* that a body had been located and identified?

There is waaaaaaay more to this story than has been reported to date, again, IMNHO, waaaay more than I think any of us civilians may ever know.

I beg of all of us to remember when we hear *anything* (be it neighborhood gossip from our local communities or national news stories) to try and discern whether or not it is gossip, false info, incomplete info, etc.

I have worked in a social work position and have learned that there is always, always, always more to any story than is ever initially reported, especially to the courts. And, unfortunately, usually more than is ever considered in the the US courts system.

This is one of the most interesting cases I've come across in the media in awhile, but mostly due to my experiences with both military and civilian justice systems.

On a personal level, I am very interested to see all this will all play out.

Also on a personal level, it darn near breaks my heart to learn that this young woman and her unborn child are more than likely dead.

Egads, as a mother myself, what more horrendous news story could be brought to my attention?
MZ

I have read before that the 1st or 2nd most common cause of death for pregnant women is homicide. That is a very sad statistic that alot of pregnant women are in harm's way at such a vulnerable time in their lives. I agree that the stepmother was totally out of line with her very public and ugly comments about the victim, and I hope she has enough of a consciense to be feeling terrible about it now.

I have inside information that they have a body, they just have not completed the identification officially.

cj/

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That guy must be totally wacked.She was suppose to testify against him in court so he goes and kills and buries her in his own backyard? Why bother?The first person they would suspect is him so why make matters worse ,by adding a charge of murder to the case.I can't believe that he thought that they actually wouldn't look in his backyard. Something still doesn't sit right about this.I believe they may have found the body and all but I think there may be more to it or else that marine was just beyond insane,I guess he thought if he wasn't able to have her then nobody will.

Maybe he thought that burning the body would completely dispose of it.......and maybe he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

cj/

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Or maybe the burnt body found in his backyard isn' t the girls at all but is somebody elses that he planted there in hopes of making everyone think she is dead but in fact she is alive and with him hiding out somewhere.

So you think that he went out and murdered someone else to throw everyone off? Or did he just happen to have a spare body lying around to use in just such an occasion?

Well,maybe he had one shipped in from Iraq.

That is NOT funny and shouldn't even be joked about!

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Ok, miss holier than thou.

That's really disgusting. Maybe you're trying to be funny, but that is NOT.

cj/

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And I suppose you thought the above was funny ? I see the the laugh face there! Get off me, you know I wasn't making fun of dead iraqs,and you know your just picking on me. You're the laugh!

You're.

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No, I'm not !

Oh, ok, I see ,its you are.Well, I'll have to go edit my post again,thanks.

Nope, I don't think I'm holier than you...I just think your comment was in poor taste, not funny, and certainly not something that should be joked about.

I have a pretty twisted sense of humour and see humour in a lot of things that most people don't--but your comment was disgusting---smiley face or not!

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And I think your post is really dumb if you really think I was making fun of dead Iraqians.!

Can't speak for Marilynk, but I thought you were talking about American service people (and most likely Marines, since that's what were talking about here) in Iraq who have paid the ultimate price. I did not think you were talking about Iraqis.

And I see a world of difference between me saying that the killer of this young woman was mistaken and not too bright in his plot to conceal the remains and the comment that you made. If you do not see the difference, I don't believe that me explaining it would help.

cj/

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

Sadly....Iraqis aren't the only ones who are dying! We have US Military over there who are dying, there are other nationalities who are dying.

I'm bewildered that you are so blind that you can't see your comment was just stupid and in poor taste. We're talking about a 20 y/o pregnant woman who apparently has been murdered and you want to make jokes about someone "importing" dead bodies from a war zone? PUHLEASE! Disgusting!

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Actually I thought my post was as farfetched as the idea someone posted that he had a spare body lying around to use in just such an occasion. Although, it could in fact could have been done (ashes shipped)beings that he was in the marines.And no ,I'm not saying this as to reflect that all Marines are corrupt, which is what I'm sure you will try to accuse me of next.

Frankly a lot of "killers" aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer...in fact they are usually a spoon in the big silverware drawer of life.

And, FWIW--I agree w/ CJS on this one (shocking I know!)

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Well of course the initial statement was far-fetched and ridiculous - but the follow-up was callous and disgusting. Perhaps admit that it was a blunder and move on.....just a thought.

cj/

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

Well despite of everything, I do hope that the body found is ashes that had already "been dead previously from a different tragedy". and that the girl and the baby are fine and corporal not a murderer.One can only hope.

You have the right to your opinion and to view posts as you see fit .But you can pick on me all day long if thats what turns you on,my post was not joking at dead marines or dead iraqians,therefore, it will stay as is.