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Old 03-07-2008, 11:25 AM
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:54 AM
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oh myyy! somebody gonna go to jail for that! thats blatent child abuse!!

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Old 03-07-2008, 12:24 PM
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Um not sure what to say but I think a tantrum could have been handled better. Perhaps mom needs the same treatment.
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Old 03-07-2008, 12:41 PM
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Since the girl did not have any marks on her body it will appear that she has not been physically abused.She will probably just have to go to parenting classes,but will have Children Services watching every move she makes FOREVER !
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Old 03-07-2008, 12:53 PM
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Since the girl did not have any marks on her body it will appear that she has not been physically abused.She will probably just have to go to parenting classes,but will have Children Services watching every move she makes FOREVER !


The "mother" is an idiot

I just saw a doctor being interviewed and he said that the pressure from that kind of power wash could have literally taken the top layer of the child's skin off and would have been very painful - wish they had turned the water on the stupid woman
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:12 PM
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The "mother" is an idiot

I just saw a doctor being interviewed and he said that the pressure from that kind of power wash could have literally taken the top layer of the child's skin off and would have been very painful - wish they had turned the water on the stupid woman
Yes,I agree,its very cruel,but the fact is "could have" probably won't be held against her since the fact remains that she did not have any marks on her body from either the pressure hose or past abuse.
So although it was cruel and mean ,it probably only stung ,because if it would have been really painful it would have left a mark.Just my opinion.
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:59 PM
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This is just so sad. Odds are this mom would not hurt her child on purpose, but just had a bad moment where she snapped, used horrible judgement and now may lose her daughter and have her unborn child taken from her.

So sad.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:00 PM
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So although it was cruel and mean ,it probably only stung ,because if it would have been really painful it would have left a mark.
I totally disagree with your statement that it probably "only" stung I think it was "really painful" even if it didn't leave a mark I think her face would have been especially painful.

The "mother" is an idiot The tv clip I saw had a couple of lawyers discussing it and they said that the woman, in fact, may be charged with child abuse.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:22 PM
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If you've ever used one of those pressure sprayers and accidentally put your hand in the spray, you know it stings A LOT (and I have a fairly high pain threshold). I cannot imagine the thought process that brought this woman to make the decision to punish her little girl with it. My kids have enraged me many times but I couldn't conceive of doing this to them. She's a very sick person and I hope the whole family gets the help they need. It made me sick to see this on the news last night.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:25 PM
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In Dolly's defense - we don't know if the mom was actually squeezing the handle or not -- anyone who has used those washes knows that there is a spray that comes out without the handle engaged that would not hurt - it's when you squeeze the handle that the pressure wash is applied and yes, that can take the skin right off you. That may be what she's talking about -- sorry, Dolly, if I'm stepping on your toes.

The video is really not clear enough to see the details. IMHO

If she was squeezing the handle it is clearly child abuse.
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:11 PM
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The story I saw on the Orlando Sentinel web site (I'm in Orlando), says that she was not pulling the handle for full pressure. The last I heard, they had not found the other woman. That poor little girl was only 2!
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:16 PM
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All I have to say is UNBELIEVABLE! I think the mother has some serious anger issues!
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:29 PM
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That poor little girl-my heart breaks for her. So very sad.
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Mom Who Pressure-Washed Kid Charged With Child Abuse - Orlando News Story - WESH Orlando

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- The mother who was videotaped while spraying her 2 1/2-year-old daughter with a high-pressure water hose at an Orlando car wash on Feb. 24 has been arrested and charged with child abuse.

The mother told authorities she did it because the child was throwing a tantrum, and that she did not have the hose on full blast.

She was picked up from her home by Orange County detectives, and taken to the Orange County Sheriff's Office for questioning.



The surveillance video from a car wash near Rouse Road and the East-West Expressway showed the toddler trying to hide her face as her mother sprayed her in the face and down her legs.

A witness overheard the mother say, "You will respect me. I'm your mother."

Many people said this form of punishment was abusive, but some people said it was tough discipline -- a parent's prerogative.

The Department of Children and Families explained why a child in this situation would be sent back home with her mother.

"Just because we don't remove the child doesn't mean we're turning our backs on this family. I can assure you we're not turning our backs on this child," Carrie Hoeppner of DCF said.

With the arrest of the mother, DCF said it will arrange to place the child now with a grandparent.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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When someone uses that kind of discipline in public, one wonders what kind they use in private. Also, the child is young, this kind of behavior on the part of the mom can and usually escalates. I do hope that they don't fall through the cracks and that DCF does keep them watched. We just had a case on LI where the mom drowned her 3 kids and everyone is in an uproar that DCF did not watch them closely enough even after many relatives had warned the authorities.
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:13 PM
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Definitely a case of child abuse...whether the mother just snapped and had enough or what...No excuse for doing this to a child...None of us would be able to get away with doing this to another adult....Very, very sad... ~Lisa
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:12 PM
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Yes,I agree,its very cruel,but the fact is "could have" probably won't be held against her since the fact remains that she did not have any marks on her body from either the pressure hose or past abuse.
So although it was cruel and mean ,it probably only stung ,because if it would have been really painful it would have left a mark.Just my opinion.

Have you ever been hit with a pressure washer? My son used to work as a detailer at a car wash and was hit by a pressure washer in the hand one day. He came home with the layer of skin torn off parts of his fingers! It was awful. And that was an accident. I'd hate to see if it had been intentional as in this little girl's case. This was definitely a case of child abuse.
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The story I saw on the Orlando Sentinel web site (I'm in Orlando), says that she was not pulling the handle for full pressure.
That was according to the mother.

This is just so sad. Odds are this mom would not hurt her child on purpose, but just had a bad moment where she snapped, used horrible judgement and now may lose her daughter and have her unborn child taken from her.


I don't think it was a bad moment. It as a lot of bad moments because she had drive her car into the car wash, park, get the child out and put eight quarters into the machine.

She most definately hurt her on purpose. The quarters did not fall into the machine on accident. This was no more than a BABY! I'm sorry, but there is no excuse.

What is really sad is I bet nothing will come of it. I can't imagine what she does to that BABY in private, if this is how she disciplines her in public. Disgusting.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:51 AM
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My thoughts exactly! If that ignorant dumbie would do that in public, with the risk of being seen, can you imagine what goes on in the privacy of her own home? I could make myself crazy worrying about what all children go thru, thru no fault of their own. It seems like people are getting crazier and crazier. That poor baby, and she is definantly a baby.
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:40 AM
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Have you ever been hit with a pressure washer? My son used to work as a detailer at a car wash and was hit by a pressure washer in the hand one day. He came home with the layer of skin torn off parts of his fingers! It was awful. And that was an accident. I'd hate to see if it had been intentional as in this little girl's case. This was definitely a case of child abuse.
I wonder if a pressure washer used in a business setting (with trained employees) might operate under higher pressure than a self-serve car wash. I hope that's the case.

OK, I'll admit it - I'd spray my sons (teenagers) and I'm pretty sure they'd spray me - from a far range and reduced pressure, not close up and not a toddler like this woman did. We just like to horse around and have fun like that. If it hurt, we wouldn't do it again.

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Old 03-08-2008, 02:37 PM
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At the risk of being label a judger this woman needs help. She has no business being a mother. You don't discipline your child this way. Discipline is not about just punishment nor it is about humiliation. It's about imposing consequences and teaching a lesson.
This family should be investigated and forced into counseling. At the very least she's an idiot for doing it in public. If you cannot control yourself in a public place where most of us assume we being observed how must she act in the privacy of the home?
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:28 PM
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I agree with you 100%. IF this had been done to an adult, and the adult wanted to press charges, this could be thought of differently. Our poor children have no one to protect them oftetimes other than their parents--and when the parent is the abuser (as I totally think this mother is an abuser--and has probably done worse than this in private) there has to be other avenues of help for the children. I worry for the unborn child as much as this poor little girl.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:52 PM
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I suppose that the pressure does vary, but my neighbor gal has a scar on her leg where she got
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:12 AM
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I suppose that the pressure does vary, but my neighbor gal has a scar on her leg where she got
"accidentally" sprayed with one.

I will take the wisdom of the two of you and be sure that my guys and I don't mess around with them. I guess we'll leaving our spraying each other fun to the home car-wash.

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Old 03-10-2008, 12:37 PM
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I heard this morning that she had turned herself in, did not think that what she did was abuse and was not "sorry" she did it. We all have bad days as parents.....what seperates us if that we don't abuse our children even if we are having a bad day. It doesn't matter if it's a lapse in judgement or done as a result of losing your temper.....ABUSE is ABUSE!
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:09 PM
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The child had wet its pants.
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