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Old 04-02-2008, 05:26 PM
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Mom jailed over kids’ lice

What a mother!
What about their home?
I would want to be rid of them!!


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Mom jailed over kids’ lice

Pennsylvania mother accused of child endangerment
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BELLE VERNON, Pa. – A woman in western Pennsylvania is charged with child endangerment, accused of ignoring warnings and sending her two kids to school with lice.
Authorities in Belle Vernon, Pa., say Nicole Lynn Holmes remained in jail Wednesday awaiting a preliminary hearing.
School officials in the town south of Pittsburgh told police the problem arose in February when Holmes was told she had to get her children treated before they could return to school.
Police said she sent the youngsters back to school without treatment and exposed other children to lice.
Court staff said Wednesday that a public defender would be assigned to represent Holmes at the preliminary hearing Friday.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:01 PM
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:29 PM
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It sounds like she didnt treat them at all???
I know they are a pain to get rid of, but not to try!
If I am reading this correctly.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:26 PM
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Hello by the way

I can't believe people, but here is what happened at my girls school a couple of weeks ago.

Right before end of day a mother came in to have a meeting, she asked that her kids be released to the office while she was in the meeting( Which is what they do) Well the girl came in sat down and couldn't sit still, then her brother came in and the girl was gone, So the office lady asked him where did his sister go as she had to wait there for their mother. Get this! He says " She is waiting in the nurses office" The office lady asked why? He said "Because she has bugs and my mother don't want her near me" OMG we all looked at each other like WTH

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Old 04-02-2008, 07:54 PM
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We have this constantly. We had one girl that we had to pick the nits out because the mom would only shampoo and then send her to school. The kid had missed so much school because of the constant cycle of the lice that we did this for her. Just a shame.

Then you have the people that use "home remedies" to treat the lice. That works for about a week then the new nits hatch and its a vicious cycle all over again.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:15 PM
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Usually there's not as many incidents of head lice in jr. high. Before spring break there was a girl that missed 8 or 9 days. In our school district the student is checked before they're allowed back in school. Missing even 2 days is rough in jr. high. I can't imagine missing over a week.
Tea tree shampoo or adding tea tree oil to your regular shampoo is very effective in keeping the lice away. Also, wearing the hair in a french braid or pony tail and using hairspray helps.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:39 PM
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Glad all my boys have really short hair. even thinking about it makes me itch, like watching that lady scratching on that home makeover thing that was posted awhile back
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:52 PM
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Hi Mrs B,
We all lost our rep power and started over here???


RE: lice
If they don't clean everything at home AND treat the kids, won't it will go on forever, confused:

When my kids were in school we didn't hear of any one getting lice. Then when my grandkids were little they were all over the schools??
I guess I was lucky.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:00 PM
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What a mother!
What about their home?
I would want to be rid of them!!
My mom was a school nurse for 15 years. Lice infestation was one of the things she battled from day one! If she could have pressed charges against some parents--she would have.

If you don't clean the carpets, beddings, stuffed animals, coats/hats, pick the nits and do it all again in 7-10 days, you will continue to be "re-infected" over and over again.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:01 PM
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Hi Mrs B,
We all lost our rep power and started over here???


RE: lice
If they don't clean everything at home AND treat the kids, won't it will go on forever, confused:

When my kids were in school we didn't hear of any one getting lice. Then when my grandkids were little they were all over the schools??
I guess I was lucky.
Hello grannyshirl, Can you tell me the difference between the dark and lite green on the rep?



To keep On the Topic - We never had head lice as a kid, but I do remember the nurse in our school doing head checks with 1 of those brown stick things when I was in school.

Head lice is like fleas- You really need to clean everything and keep cleaning until they are gone. I know the flea thing as we had neighbors more out and our cat who was indoor cat got them. I went through hell everyday with the cat, bedding, rugs, ect even my youngest was getting bit by them but the rest of us were not. I was going to make sure they were gone from my house and kid. lol Some people don't care or they are lazy.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:18 PM
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I know that you have to do all this.My DD was scrubbing and doing laundry and she threw hair products , toys and
stuffed animals away. She was afraid to just clean and wash some things.

I guess my question was what happens when lazy people don't clean everything?? Aren't they the ones who keep these going on and on??

You can do the kids hair at school , but if they go home to them. YUK!


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Old 04-03-2008, 12:11 AM
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in my ds preschool class, which is a part of the school system, a little girl got turned over to cps because of this along with other reasons, but that was one of them. she was constantly coming in with it. ths teacher or the helper would just take a look every few days and she would get sent home. i think that her parents just did not have any parenting skills at all. i believe that the mother was slow and nobody really taught her anything.

oth-- our school does not check hair for lice, the preschool teacher did that on her own. they will send them home if the teacher sends them down, but i have only known that to happen once. the teachers tend to look the other way , i have actually heard them talk about it. so chances are your kid will get it, really ticks me off since to the stuff to get rid of it is expensive.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:36 AM
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Just reading this is making me cringe, and my kid's not even here yet. I suppose I'll just keep hairspray or gel on him once he's in school, buy combs cheap enough to be disposable, and keep my own hair tied back. I had a friend in high school whose mother seemed clueless about this sort of thing, and who had a younger sister. We'd just end up doing the treatments ourselves, and I would contribute dollar store brushes that could be thrown out as needed. Sometimes, I think parents could use a lot more education.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:57 AM
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I have two kids in high school now, and, although they both had other kids with lice in their elementary classes, out of the 6 years my two were in Middle school/Jr. High (6-7-8th grades here--so 3 years for both) neither of them ever had instances of lice in jr high/middle school. I also work in a middle school and it is very, very rare to hear of lice in our school.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:14 AM
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Lice is a PITA to get rid of. My dd use to have long hair and her hair is thick, we had them and it was a nightmare. I made sure to treat everybody's hair and then treat again when the time came around. I even bought furniture and car spray and sparyed there. I washed sheets and everything every day for 2 weeks. I thought we would never get rid of them. To me not being proactive on this is nothing but irresponsibility.

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Old 04-03-2008, 10:16 AM
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They should jail more parents like that, I mean, God, This may sound mean my brother and his girlfriend's kids have it ALL THE TIME, I mean it was like it snowed lice in their daughters hair...NO JOKE! I used to keep the kids for months at a time and finallly put my foot down and said no...I can't keep risking my 3 dd long hair getting infected, I have sat for hours pulling knits out because I wanted to be a Great Aunt, but like I told them, you dont want to keep thier hair clean and send them to me for months at a time...sign them over! Anyway, I keep a bottle of tea tree oil around and when they visit, my kids hair get done immediatley! They say they get it from her mothers house and she does her hair...come on now, it looked like it snowed last time I kept her and it's a shame too, cause now I only get to see them once in a blue moon!!
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:29 AM
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There's more to the story... She is a druggie too with SIX kids ages 10 to 1 !

Belle Vernon is in the PIttsburgh area, so this is a top news story. I pray these kids get a better life.

To read more, go to:

Mom Found Unconscious At Home Charged With Sending Kids To School With Lice - Pittsburgh News Story - WTAE Pittsburgh
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:51 AM
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Recently I went to court with my son and my ex husband was charged with "medical endangering a child" and "contempt" because he was told to get son in counseling back in January and had not done so yet. They are no longer messing around with parents that medically neglect their children for no reason.
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:43 PM
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I am glad! I have had a student in the past who had to be pulled out of school (she missed half the year) because they couldn't get rid of the lice. Blech! Half of my class ended up with it, and it was a miserable one!
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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When I picked my daughter up last Friday she was telling me that she and a bunch of girls had to go to the nurses office to be checked for lice. Then she proceeded to tell me one of the girls said the nurse told her she had eggs in her head. Well, low and behold when I emptied her backpack there was the lice note. Now here is my question, if you have eggs in your hair isn't that the same thing? Why would they allow her to stay in school? These are 1st graders so I don't think she would know about eggs unless she actually had them(at least mine don't know anything about lice). My son has been in the same school 6 years now and the only notes he gets are strep throat. Daughter has been there 2 years and has had lice note, strep throat, chicken pox, ring worm and impetigo notes.......
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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When I picked my daughter up last Friday she was telling me that she and a bunch of girls had to go to the nurses office to be checked for lice. Then she proceeded to tell me one of the girls said the nurse told her she had eggs in her head. Well, low and behold when I emptied her backpack there was the lice note. Now here is my question, if you have eggs in your hair isn't that the same thing? Why would they allow her to stay in school? These are 1st graders so I don't think she would know about eggs unless she actually had them(at least mine don't know anything about lice). My son has been in the same school 6 years now and the only notes he gets are strep throat. Daughter has been there 2 years and has had lice note, strep throat, chicken pox, ring worm and impetigo notes.......
The eggs can be in the hair, even if they are "dead".
If a child has eggs it could mean a couple of things--they wash their hair daily and kill/wash out the bugs, or they have dead eggs that just haven't been gotten taken from the hair. The only way to get the eggs/nits out are the pull them out or comb them out with a very fine tooth comb.

Only notes we've gotten from school are chicken pox and whooping cough (last two years there has been a couple of really bad outbreak of whooping cough)
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:04 PM
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In our district they are not allowed back in school until all the eggs/nits have been removed and they have been checked by one of the office staff or school nurse.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:22 PM
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In my kids' old school, the nurse recommended that kids keep their coats and backpacks on their individual chairs (vs the coat hooks).
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hey that is a good idea I never ever thought about coats I know thier is a crazy __ ___ of a mom if you want to call her that at my kids school they have 4 girls & 2 the same ages as my dd's so they are in the same classes all the time & this year the whole class had it one of the parents got so mad they just shaved their dd's head so they wouldnt have to deal with it
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:31 AM
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About 2 years ago, my godson had gotten lice from his day care. Unfortunately, I was visiting him the morning they found it. It is a large task to clean the home to get rid of lice. I had gone over to help my friend clean the house, remove all stuffed toys, pillows, wiped down everything etc. Then we diid it at my house as a precautionary. Believe me it wasnt easy, anything that maybe contaminated you have to wash in hot water, dry in dryer and we left it in trash bags for 30 days. It seemed to do the job!
The lady in the story is ignorant and lazy! It is a hard task to rid the lice!
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:24 PM
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I heard that movie theaters were one of the places that you pick them up.
Wonder if that is true?

Sure makes me glad we rarely go to the movies.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:47 PM
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Granny,
Yes that is true...and buses and swimmong pools of all places. People throw their towels in a pile and one crawls off a towel on to yours and bingo...
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:16 PM
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I heard that movie theaters were one of the places that you pick them up.
Wonder if that is true?

Sure makes me glad we rarely go to the movies.

Eh, you can pick them up standing behind someone in a line. Standing next to them at the office...etc. If you're gonna get 'em you're gonna get 'em
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