ive got a auto debit on my bank account from ESAFE INC and i have NO IDEA who / what it is.
The only thing i have come up with is prepaid visa cards and ive never bought one of those.
anyone signed up for the revolution money thing have yall gotten the same charge?

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I too found this debit in my backup checking account - I don't use it very often for much. I just contacted the bank, and we'll see what their take is on it. I did not sign up for the revolutionary money thing, so not sure where this charge came from at all.

Louella

I had a 19.95 charge on my debit from this company?? any guesses?? I called the bank, I have to do it in person. Can't think of what it might be. any help would be appreciated:

All you need to do is go into your bank and fill out the paperwork for the charge to be investigated. I had a charge on my debit card a couple of years ago and it wasn't a problem to get taken off. In fact, I believe the amount was credited in about a week.

i cancelled rev. after seeing the charge

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ill keep yall updated if i find out something before you please do the same
i looked at the web page above but i never signed up for anything like that.
i really never have used my bank card online i use paypal excpet the one time i signed up for rev.money and when i signed up for paypal yrs ago.
i hardly ever use my bank account just to pay bills i dont pay local so luckily i had money in there to cover it now i just want it back lol

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For what it's worth.....the debit card that was used a couple of years ago was DH's and the only time it's used is to buy gas. I was told that it was only a random hit.

I was charged this 19.95 charge a fews days ago. OMG! This has been a pain in the butt trying to get a straight answer. I bank with Bank of America, they gave me a phone number to a place called Check Gateway, they gave me a phone number to ESafeCards.com. NO ONE OT THIS COMPANY WILL ANSWER THE PHONE!! So, I called the girl back at Check Gateway and told her I wanted some answers. I wanted to know how a company can just take 19.95 out of your account and then not be available to answer for it. She said to give her 20min and she would call me back. I also told her about these other posts so it sounds like a scam. I will let you know what I find out when she calls me back.

I don't understand why your bank would give you a number to call to check this out. It's not your job to do that, it's the job of your bank to do that. All you need to do is go in and fill out the paperwork to get the debit reversed. It's then up to the bank to pursue the issue or not.

I got the same # today clled got the # to the company that didnt answer the phone.
i asked for the info i wanted to know who it is, is why they gave it to me i havent received my
papers in the mail to file my vand been in the shop for 2 days (the abs light kept coming on) so will be able to go get the paper work form the bank myself as the mail is to slow.

how does someone get your account info form a gas station?
and of the people that have the same charge where have you bought gas?
only gas station in the last month has been krogers and that was once on the 13th of march
then i went to target on the 26th,sears on the 28th, and ross on the 7th ross and krogers are the only 2 places out of the ordinary for me as i usually use my paypal cc at these places.anyone matches?

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As I said this was entirely random. No one obtained a number from the place where gas was purchased. The hackers work with numbers until they get one to hit. Two or three preauthorizations had been made and dropped off of the account before an actual charge was made.

im starting to wonder about ross's i remember a few months ago tjmax had a hacker get loads of info including CC# SS # etc.
wonder if ross had the same thing happen?
its just strange i can see if i was the only one with the charge and not know where it came from maybe i forgot what it was didnt write it down etc but to have others have the same exact charge is alittle strange to me.

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This is the Parent Company of Esafe : UC HUB GROUP, INC :: Digital Community ::

Hope this helps someone, looks like some type of pre-paid card called a Genie Card maybe

I found a lot of articles about the company merging with others etc.

Chrstine

ETA: Larry Wilcox of ChiPs fame owns it and hte Esafe card was originally marketed for kids

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finally got an answer form check gateway and they gave me the # to Esafe cards it is a prepaid debit acrd which i have never done thier # is 866-925-1969 email is Esafecards@yahoo.com
now when i call i get a recording with a young mans voice told him i will be going to my bank tomorrow that i recieved a debit form his compnay that i did not athorize they needed to call me back .also i would be contacting my local law enforcement if my card was not dbited back the amount received.we will see what happens.what legit company has a yahoo account!

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I too was charged $19.95 from esafe inc! I never signed up for anything nor have I ever heard of this company. I registered just to partake in this conversation. The weird thing is they charged my mothers checking account and I don't even know her account number let alone give it to anyone. I am 21 and live with my mother and there was no funds in the account so it overdrew the account, we called Bank of America to take it off, which they did but it got charged again the next day! They told her it was a comapny called Esafe Inc and my name was attached to it somehow... so now she has to close her account of 11 years... Anyone have any luck with this???

i just filed my disput today tell your bank you want all charges Stopped immediatly from this company and then file a dispute on the charges.
also can i get everyone to send me a message as to where they are located im going to print it out and take it to the law something should be ble to be done.

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I'm in Watsonville, CA. We called BofA the first time and they sent us an affidavit which we received today, the other charge the woman was able to reverse it over the phone. As far as them stopping it from happening again, she said the only thing we could do was close the account and open a new one. We cannot close the account because it now has a negative balance... The only thing I can think of were this came from was I signed up for online "Free Samples" from various sites a couple days ago, however that still doesn't explain how they got my mothers checking account info when I don't even know it... or how they even got her information...

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check this out please it has info pertaining to this.

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It has to be GreenZap. I had an attempted debit to my ING savings account and fortunately they refused it and emailed me. It was a check written to a company called Three, INC. This is part of the email from ING:

We wanted to let you know Three, Inc issued us a check to debit your ING DIRECT Orange Savings Account. Since this is a non-transactional account (in other words, it is not a checking account), we are unable to process the request and returned the check to Three, Inc, marking it “non-transactional.”

I called ING and alerted them to the fact I did not have any idea who this company is.

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It's GreenZap!
If you opened an account with them years ago like I did you may be getting these charges. Here's an email I got from Freelancebyu.com

PLEASE tell anyone that fell for that free GreenZap money years ago to check their bank
account. And if it is on there and they did not authorize it, I will save
you A LOT of time and long distance calling by giving you the direct number.
..1-760-705-2546. Not saying how long this number will work before they yet
again change their number....but its what comes up on my caller id of the
person that called me. She gave me a 1866 number to call back, but I couldn
t get it to work. They of course didn't pay my bouncing charges, so when my
pay hit today in the bank, it took it out of my pay. Grrr. I don't want to
see any of my fellow freelancer friends h ave to go through this.
Have a good one....
Phylis


I think I learned of Green Zap through you, so I thought you'd want to know (if you don't already) & let everyone else know too! I had a $19.95 payment clear my checking account yesterday. I had no idea who "DCL-ENV" was & decided to Google it since it was almost midnight on a Saturday night. I found this blog & mine is the EXACT same thing. HTH!
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Then I found this on the website listed above:
Time to dig up some ancient history...
If you signed up for GreenZap, ages and ages ago, please check your bank accounts for a charge of $19.95, in the form of a rather bland looking check. According to BECU I authorized this check over the phone, but of course I didn't.

I called this phone number:

1-866-925-1969

which was written in the "memo" field of the check, and someone picked up immediately. She sounded kind of distant, and there were guys laughing in the background. Seemed suspicious, but she claimed she deleted me from GreenZap's system and refunded the money (I'll know in a couple of days). She said some other company bought GreenZap and now they're handling GreenZap's customers.

GreenZap was so long ago, I can't be positive I had a bank account then, and even if I did, there's no way I provided that information to them, since it became pretty obvious pretty quickly that GreenZap would do none of the things it promised and was a transparent scam. So don't take any chances -- if you did the GreenZap thing, be sure to check your bank account.

Hope that helps!
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I just tried to call both and got a voice mail. I would have your bank do a reversal of the charge as I will be doing tomorrow morning.

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Ok went to my bank the other day. They refunded the inital 19.95. Today I see that a CHECK was made up and rawn on my account for 19.75. Now I have to close my checking account. I too, signed up for greenzap, years ago! TOTBAL There ought to be a LAW. please post if anyone has further info.

What is/was GreenZap??

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Greenzap was supposed to be Paypal's replacement with no fees and you were supposed to earn greenbucks I think when shopping that could be redeemed online at major retailers. They had some investment type thingy going to where you paid them so much per month to subscribe to it

I have searched Greenzap out and they are in big trouble with the FBI and were bought out and there are posts all over the internet about this happening to others and some have gotten taken for hundreds and thousands of dollars, the gut feeling is that someone has the databases and is using it for their monetary gain.

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Greenzap is one of ING's companies and years ago they offered $50 to sign up with them. Many Many people did this and received this with no problems, myself included.
I do not believe this is something ING has done, as they are a reputable banking company with branches all over the country. My thought is that someone hacked into them. Although I think I read somewhere that GreenZap has new owners, although I can't say if it's true since I can't remember where I saw it.
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yep. its greenzap and they are taking 19.95 out of everyone that has a account. saw it on the news.

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I dont know where you got information it was part of ING its not and never has been. The former owner of Greenzap is a convicted felon who played thousands of people on Ponzi schemes etc. just do a google search on Damon Westmoreland and Jeff Rogers and you will see how the bilked people over and over again with similiar programs.

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question to whom had charges.
how did they knew your checking account #, shouldn't they provide routing # and checking account # to make charges?
i also have an account with them, never had more than the $25 that they "gave me" upon opening the account, couldn't withdraw that money either. i have to check our bank account for charges. but it puzzles me that they can do automatic debit from checking without the account numbers.

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I actually called and left a message after getting one number from my bank, and then another from check gateway - the gentleman there said "If you don't get an answer, contact your bank for more information". Well, a lady called back and left a message from esafe, and since the charge was reversed and so was the $30 fee for an overdrawn account. We'll see if anything else happens.

Louella

mine are getting reversed but not by the company that took money

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I got this same charge from eSafe Inc. ($19.95).

I got this charge on the same day (4-11-08) that I made a $156 purchase with a 'brick-and-mortar' co.

I had gotten this charge from the Greenzap thieves way back. They promissed a refund but they never kept their promise (what can you expect from thieves?).

I changed my account number since then so how did they get my new account no.?

I need to change banks (Union Bank of California). They're a bunch if idiots. I've had too many problems with them monkeys!

I'm outtta state so I cannot take care of this problem 'til I return to California.

I don't understand 'the feds.' How can they let these kind of thieves operate? Are the feds on the 'pay-off?'

God Bless all!

I just closed my account and made a new one because of this .I hadn't gotten hit yet but didn't want to take any chances since I had done the greenzap offer. I would change banks if greenzap were able to get my new account info after closing the old one.I would suspect the bank of accidentally giving my info to someone they thought was me.