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Old 04-24-2008, 10:46 PM
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Angry OMG!!! Dr. Phil Show today

I am watching the Dr. Phil show where the @$$h0l& father is a sicko child molester. He admitted molesting his younger brothers when he was young and he said he "did" his sister (nice words, huh?) AND even admitted molesting his baby daughter when she was only TWO WEEKS OLD!!!!! He also admits beating her so badly that she had to wear sweat clothes for two weeks to cover up the welts and bruises. Mom admits to seeing both of these incidents--AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT!!! Now, the grandchild of the molested girl is a child molester himself--after having lived with his grandparents for a year and a half when he was younger. This molester is a sick S.O.B. who needs to go to jail....and be put in the general population and left alone with every violent inmate in there who is a father of a child.......they will take care of this psycho even if the "system" never does......

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Old 04-24-2008, 10:56 PM
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I saw it too. It was disgusting. I wonder what will happen on tomorrows show. He should be charged and locked up if he molested his grandson. It was unbelievably creepy.
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:38 AM
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What kind of disgusting slug would do that to a baby?

And I know it's not always easy to spot these pervs, but just looking at and listening to him gives me the willies.
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The grandfather is a sicko- who gets an erection by looking at his two week old child?, the grandmother is a self proclaimed victim--"I just didn't know what to do", BUT the daughter is the one who turned her own kid over to the sicko for a year or so because she coul;dn't get her act together. Supposedly, her memories didn't surface until later. But, she sure could remember that her father used to hit her! The entire family unit is screwed up. The poor stepfather looked nearly normal. Remember "the sins of the father are re-visited on the child"- this is the stuff they were talking about. It is also the stuff that gives mental health professionals job security.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:03 AM
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Freak sick , words cannot describe...
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ugh, this makes me sick. I so wish I hadn't read about this, this morning.

I wish I would have known what this was about, I wouldn't have opened it first thing in the AM. Doesn't go well with coffee and yogurt..ack...


What a sicko!
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:37 AM
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I saw it too. I think the mother is a big liar as well. When Dr. Phil asked why she stayed w/ him, she said they lived separate lives. The father said their relationship had "prospered" over the last six months. I'm sorry-do anything like that to any of my kids, the only one who's going to be "prospering" is the local funeral parlor where you'll be laid out!
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:53 AM
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Is Dr. Phil morphing into Jerry Springer Show? I didn't watch but saw previews this past week. So many victims and the help is coming too late for so many. Sick and sad.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:15 AM
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I agree that Dr Phil keeps sinking lower and lower. I missed the beginning of the show so I don't understand why the daughter was letting her son be around and cared for by her father. If she knew what he had done to her. I didn't get the whole story why she told she was going to have a baby and it was a lie.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:06 PM
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What happened on Friday?????? Our show was interrupted with tornado warnings!!!! They had the last three minutes and about 5 minutes of it with aboiut 15 minutes to go. I saw him "flunk" the lie detector answers although lie detector testa are only 50% accurate. Who was the dude in the audience? Her brother?
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:22 PM
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Yeah, her brother was in the audience. He said at the beginning of the show that his children spend time at grandma and grandpas even now. I wonder if that changed after the lie detector. I also wondered if he was asked quesitons of about those children. What a sad, sad situation!!


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Old 04-25-2008, 08:34 PM
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I can't watch that show anymore. Too graphic and gross!
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:56 PM
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I have to ask: If your dad had sexually abouse you when you were little, would you allow your child to stay with him?? No way in He$# would I ? What was that mom thinking??/ also, the dad acts a little "out of it" . Its not something I can put my finger on but the man acts as if he dont really think he did anything wrong.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:51 PM
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I have to ask: If your dad had sexually abouse you when you were little, would you allow your child to stay with him?? No way in He$# would I ? What was that mom thinking??/ also, the dad acts a little "out of it" . Its not something I can put my finger on but the man acts as if he dont really think he did anything wrong.
Well I think that happens alot that's why there are cycles of abuse from generation to generation. I missed the part where she had to let the grandparents watch him for a year when he was little so she could get her life together. I do know what you mean though. The dad reminds me of the dad in Revenge of the Nerds!!!!!!
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:46 PM
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I believe, truly, that this man is evil. He actually LAUGHED through so much of these accusations. He actually says, STILL--even after the 93% proven accuracy of this particular Lie Detector testing which he failed on every single question--he still says he wants to work with and "mentor" young kids at Bible Camp this summer. I understand why this grandson was with the family for the year and a half---the daughter had been told she was a liar for years and years and so was really screwed up and needed to get her life back together....it happens to a lot of sexually abused victims.

I think the Mother knew and still knows that her husband was/is an evil monster---her culpability is as strong--or even stronger in my opinion. As a mother I would not stay in a relationship with this man for one second, let alone decades, with such a monster. She actually WITNESSED this sicko abusing her daughter at 2 weeks old and did nothing about it......then when the daughter at 12 years old told the mother she had been raped.....she did NOTHING again. That is NOT normal for a mother in my opinion.

All this being said, I think statute of limitations is up for what he did to his daughter; however, the door is WIDE OPEN for this sick $0B to be prosecuted for the acts he has perpetrated on his grandson. If Dr. Phil still carries any medical license he is OBLIGATED UNDER LAW to report this to authorities. Appropriate action will, I believe be taken. I also believe that the stepfather will make sure that is done.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:14 AM
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[quote=jeanief;2986183]I believe, truly, that this man is evil. He actually LAUGHED through so much of these accusations. He actually says, STILL--even after the 93% proven accuracy of this particular Lie Detector testing which he failed on every single question--he still says he wants to work with and "mentor" young kids at Bible Camp this summer. I understand why this grandson was with the family for the year and a half---the daughter had been told she was a liar for years and years and so was really screwed up and needed to get her life back together....it happens to a lot of sexually abused victims.

I think the Mother knew and still knows that her husband was/is an evil monster---her culpability is as strong--or even stronger in my opinion. As a mother I would not stay in a relationship with this man for one second, let alone decades, with such a monster. She actually WITNESSED this sicko abusing her daughter at 2 weeks old and did nothing about it......then when the daughter at 12 years old told the mother she had been raped.....she did NOTHING again. That is NOT normal for a mother in my opinion.

He could actually give me nightmares he's so creepy. Looks like a character from a horror movie. I also agree that the mother had to know something. Sounds like she is in total denial. Who knows how he has treated her and how she was treated growing up. I would never stay with a man like that either but I was brought up in a healthy family. I hope he is prosecuted too. Maybe even his wife for child endangerment.
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Old 04-26-2008, 04:43 AM
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That guy was definitely off. His wife didn't seem like she was "all there" either.

I teared up for Sherie-Lynn. You could tell she was even more devastated when she heard the lie detector results as it related to Parker.
The father just sat there, smugly and flippant about it all.

I hope parents run the other way when they see this creep. No way does he need to be around or work with kids.
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I am glad he did this show. The grandma and mother needed a huge wake up call and hopefully other families watching will recognize themselves and seek help! This "grandpa" is so dangerous! He molesed his own brothers and sisters while growing up; slid his 2 2wk old babay girl up and down his penis and apparantly (according the results of the lie detector test) molested his daughter thtough the years and his grandson. He was even planning on mentoring children at t Bible school this summmer! I hope every parent gets a copy of this show because this man was so far gone he was invoking the name of Jesus Christ to let the Lord flame the truth right down right now.

People like him need to be exposed and stopped. And I am proud of the stepfather of the boy. You could see in his eyes he wanted to rip that sorry specimen apaart limb from limb but Dr Phil said "talk it out don't act it out ". I don't know if I could have restrained myself from killing the bastard right there.
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As I posted above, I did not see the show but just wondering... did Sheri-Lynn actually remember the incident from when she was 2 weeks old or did the father confess or did the mother say something???
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:13 PM
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As I posted above, I did not see the show but just wondering... did Sheri-Lynn actually remember the incident from when she was 2 weeks old or did the father confess or did the mother say something???
No, she did not remember. The mom disclosed what happened, which is why I believe the husband (gramps) acknowledged it on the show. I'm certain that had the mom not been there and witnessed it, he would have never owned up to it.

At about age 12, she had come home and said she had been raped. Her parents did not pursue it and it was swept under the rug.
At age 14 or 15, she had said that she was pregnant and that her dad had taken her to terminate the pregnacy. Later, she recanted the story, which made them believe she was either crazy, a liar, or both. And I think at that point, she doubted herself.

People are asking why she let the parents keep her child. From my understanding, she had repressed the memories of the molestation and did not remember until she was 27 years of age. By that time, her son had already lived with the parents.
When she voiced her suspicions about being molested, the family did not believe her. She had been made out to be the villain.
How she survived up until this point is beyond me.

I kinda wonder if the brother was molested too.


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I am glad he did this show. The grandma and mother needed a huge wake up call and hopefully other families watching will recognize themselves and seek help! This "grandpa" is so dangerous! He molesed his own brothers and sisters while growing up; slid his 2 2wk old babay girl up and down his penis and apparantly (according the results of the lie detector test) molested his daughter thtough the years and his grandson. He was even planning on mentoring children at t Bible school this summmer! I hope every parent gets a copy of this show because this man was so far gone he was invoking the name of Jesus Christ to let the Lord flame the truth right down right now.

People like him need to be exposed and stopped. And I am proud of the stepfather of the boy. You could see in his eyes he wanted to rip that sorry specimen apaart limb from limb but Dr Phil said "talk it out don't act it out ". I don't know if I could have restrained myself from killing the bastard right there.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:07 AM
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Words cannot even describe how truly wrong this is. I haven't watched it yet, but i have it tivo'd. I have an 18 month old baby boy, and I just cannot imagine. Babies are jst the picture of innocence. I guess you have to be a true animal sicko for this to ever enter your mind.
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I am sorry you had to have all these experiences. I, also, was molested by my stepfather. Being a rather strong-willed child (this was in the 70s when things were not as openly discussed and dealt with as today) O still told my mother. Being the horrendous mother that she was, she, of course, blamed me--saying that even if it did happen, which she didn't really believe, that I had to have done something to cause it. I also told a neighbor, who I thought was a good friend of the family who would help me; She, instead told my mom I had talked to her and I was beaten with extension cords and a board. This monster of a man never touched me again because I told him if he did I would kill him (and I meant it). However, I have 3 sisters -- and he molested 2 of them and raped the third.....all because he knew he COULD and get away with it. I left home the day I turned 18 and have had no contact with the woman who was my birthmother since that day. I know that my stepfather died a slow, horrible agonizing death from cancer about 10 years later.....GOD does work wonders and takes care of things one way or another, sooner or later.

With all this being said, not for a second do I miss the "family" I lost who had no desire to believe nor protect me when I was an innocent child. I am a great, wonderful, compassionate person and THEY are the poor souls who have lost so much in their lives by not knowing this person I have become.

So, count your blessings that this toxicity is out of your life.

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I was touched sexually by my Grandfather when I was 9 years old.

I told my mom, she told my dad, who in turn said "don't rock the boat" and just forget about it. Grandpa probably thought she was Grandma (I had slept in bed with him while Grandma was away on work).
You have to understand, they are "upstanding" people.


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ohhgodd and jeanief - {{{{HUGS}}}}} I am so sorry for your experiences and the long-lasting impact of such evil deeds by those whom you should be able to trust. Thank you for sharing your experiences....

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Old 04-27-2008, 04:12 PM
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This is what Sherie-Lyn said to her dad after hearing the results of the lie detector test:

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When that happens to somebody, it ruins a life. It destroys a person, who they were created to be, the purpose they were created for. It sends them on a path of destruction and YOU are responsible for that.
You did that to me, you did that to me!"
I found that statement very profound, in fact it made me cry. This woman will live with what happened to her forever. Not because of what she did, but what her father chose to do to her.

jeanief and ohgodd, I am so so sorry for what happened to you.
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like I said..."Sins of the father are revisited upon the child". When I was younger, I never understood what that statement meant. I couldn't get the by the "that is not fair" concept. Now as an adult, I understand that adult actions have far reaching consequences for our children.

When you think of this issue, think of the children in the Texas LDS splinter group. They have all been molested by fathers and brothers as long as they can remember, boys and girls alike. Think what it would be like to never know a minute's peace from being touched by someone and NO adult thinking that these actions are wrong. It will take a generation or two to get those kids' heads screwed back on correctly. Sometimes life just isn't fair.
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