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Old 06-10-2008, 10:20 AM
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Wink Still the same ....after all these years

Ya know..... I've been coming here forever, mostly I just lurk unless I can't help myself. Well today I just can't help it(maybe PMS or lack of coffee or maybe I'm just nuts today) But It just kills me when I see all the whining and crying about name calling and pretend threats(like, what are they gonna do? Kill your browser or something?) WAAAAA!
I love you ALL but man, GET A GRIP! who really cares about what some people say on a message board? Or hell even in real life. I've been called a lot of names in my 40 sentence on earth and I'm pretty tough skinned. The only people I really care about what they think are my children and DH and hell most of the time I don't care what DH thinks
No one is going to spend anytime crying over anyone if they leave a message board and if they do then they need some new meds.

GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!!!!



OK, I'm done now better get more coffee before I really go nuts

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Old 06-10-2008, 10:29 AM
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Ya know..... I've been coming here forever, mostly I just lurk unless I can't help myself. Well today I just can't help it(maybe PMS or lack of coffee or maybe I'm just nuts today) But It just kills me when I see all the whining and crying about name calling and pretend threats(like, what are they gonna do? Kill your browser or something?) WAAAAA!
I love you ALL but man, GET A GRIP! who really cares about what some people say on a message board? Or hell even in real life. I've been called a lot of names in my 40 sentence on earth and I'm pretty tough skinned. The only people I really care about what they think are my children and DH and hell most of the time I don't care what DH thinks
No one is going to spend anytime crying over anyone if they leave a message board and if they do then they need some new meds.

GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!!!!



OK, I'm done now better get more coffee before I really go nuts
OH no, don't get more coffee! I love your posting without coffee--perfectly logical and reasonable!
Coffee might skew your perspective!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:19 AM
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Some people are very sensitive to what others think about them IRL and are not thick skinned. Thus, they take whatever is said to them (even on a message board) to heart and do take it very personal.

I have a much thicker skin than I used to, I think that is just age though..LOL


I can't help but think of that girl who commited suicide because of the myspace comments and how affected she was by what was being said to her. It's just so sad.

I almost feel sometimes that people say "don't take things personal on a message board," or "Get tougher skin", or "get a grip with life if what you read on a message board bothers you" simply to justify and downplay the impact of their own callousness and cruelty to others.

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Old 06-10-2008, 11:25 AM
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My opinion is that people should not type things that they would not say to one's face. A lot of times people type rude & nasty things because they are hiding behind a computer screen. My motto is if you wouldn't say it in person, you shouldn't type it, either.

If everyone lived by that rule, I think we'd have less of the fueds that we have on here. I get so tired of everyone fighting - can't we all just play nice and get along?

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Old 06-10-2008, 11:34 AM
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My opinion is that people should not type things that they would not say to one's face. A lot of times people type rude & nasty things because they are hiding behind a computer screen. My motto is if you wouldn't say it in person, you shouldn't type it, either.

If everyone lived by that rule, I think we'd have less of the fueds that we have on here. I get so tired of everyone fighting - can't we all just play nice and get along?

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The only problem with that is: When something is written you can't tell what "tone" it's said in, you can't see the facial expressions or body language.
A lot of people take offense to a simple sentence or statement because the interpret one way, but that is not how the person who wrote it/said it didn't mean it that way.

The phrase "Bless your heart" comes to mind....depending on the tone and facial expression can mean many different things.
I know that is not the case all the time, but sometimes it is.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:35 AM
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The only problem with that is: When something is written you can't tell what "tone" it's said in, you can't see the facial expressions or body language.
A lot of people take offense to a simple sentence or statement because the interpret one way, but that is not how the person who wrote it/said it didn't mean it that way.

The phrase "Bless your heart" comes to mind....depending on the tone and facial expression can mean many different things.
I know that is not the case all the time, but sometimes it is.
ITA. Great post Marilyn!


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Old 06-10-2008, 11:49 AM
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Some people are very sensitive to what others think about them IRL and are not thick skinned. Thus, they take whatever is said to them (even on a message board) to heart and do take it very personal.

I have a much thicker skin than I used to, I think that is just age though..LOL


I can't help but think of that girl who commited suicide because of the myspace comments and how affected she was by what was being said to her. It's just so sad.

I almost feel sometimes that people say "don't take things personal on a message board," or "Get tougher skin", or "get a grip with life if what you read on a message board bothers you" simply to justify and downplay the impact of their own callousness and cruelty to others.

JMTC.
Did you read the thread that Julieoh posted in regards to poor grammar?? I'm sorry, but, pretty much no matter WHAT you post, you will get differing opinions and points of view. You have to expect this.

I find it really funny how some people can certainly dish it out, but, can't take it. Here is a small snippit from a comment Julieoh posted on the Free Lunch thread:

"I wasnt talking about the way you attacked me, I am talking about the negativity and the way you attack just about everyone that posts here. Your sympathy, empathy whatever it is that you have for this woman is amazing to me. You are usually the coldest, harshest of anyone..."

gives me the warm fuzzies


I wasn't here for the Family Board (I hear it was BBBAAAADDDDDD!!!) and was leary of hopping in to the Cafe. But, I accept that not everyone will like what I post, or agree with what I say. No biggie, I'm a big girl, and I can handle that. Otherwise, I wouldn't post, and would exit the building....no big announcement, I would just stop posting.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:51 AM
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The only problem with that is: When something is written you can't tell what "tone" it's said in, you can't see the facial expressions or body language.
A lot of people take offense to a simple sentence or statement because the interpret one way, but that is not how the person who wrote it/said it didn't mean it that way.

The phrase "Bless your heart" comes to mind....depending on the tone and facial expression can mean many different things.
I know that is not the case all the time, but sometimes it is.
Another good one is "I'll pray for you".
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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I almost feel sometimes that people say "don't take things personal on a message board," or "Get tougher skin", or "get a grip with life if what you read on a message board bothers you" simply to justify and downplay the impact of their own callousness and cruelty to others.

JMTC.

I don't think that I'm cruel or callous just calling it as I see it. I'm pretty much a realist. And I do strongly believe if a message board upsets you that much then something is wrong in your "real" life. Maybe if it hurts that much, people should step away from their computers and just try dealing with real life

My heart goes out to the Myspace girls family. It was a tragic event. But I also know that everyone that is insulted,hurt, or offended by a message board doesn't commit suicide.
That may sound harsh to some but that is the true reality.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:06 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the myspace suicide a young teen (12, 13, 14)? And didn't some of the backlash from the postings on myspace actually spill over into this child's everyday life(taunting, teasing, etc)?

So, I think comparing a teen who is not only subject to cyber bullying but actual IRL bullying, to get ting your (the general you) feelings hurt because someone posted something that you found offensive is comparing apples and oranges. A child/teen is just learning how to be her own person, and aren't secure in themselves.
We are suppose to be adults--and nothing I have ever posted on this board will make your next door neighbor tease you. At least I don't think so any way....
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:09 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the myspace suicide a young teen (12, 13, 14)? And didn't some of the backlash from the postings on myspace actually spill over into this child's everyday life(taunting, teasing, etc)?

So, I think comparing a teen who is not only subject to cyber bullying but actual IRL bullying, to get ting your (the general you) feelings hurt because someone posted something that you found offensive is comparing apples and oranges. A child/teen is just learning how to be her own person, and aren't secure in themselves.
We are suppose to be adults--and nothing I have ever posted on this board will make your next door neighbor tease you. At least I don't think so any way....
Yeah, I meant to add all that too. Thanks for typing it for me.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:29 PM
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Yeah, I meant to add all that too. Thanks for typing it for me.
No problem--I'm at work, I've had plenty of coffee! Now if I could just be motivated to actually WORK!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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No problem--I'm at work, I've had plenty of coffee! Now if I could just be motivated to actually WORK!!
Why, this is WAY too much fun!!! I don't think I've done any work today!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:48 PM
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It is easier to be bitchy on a message board sometimes simply because of the instant venting factor. Usually IRL we think about something we don't just get moody or mad or sad or frustrated and yell out the window where it's instantly broadcast around the world.

And I am sorry but whether in joking or serious it's not hard to find idiocy, ignorance, stupidity, illogical-ness, and a whole lot of judging going on so it's easy and tempting to tell people a thing a two. Sometimes it's in hopes the person will wake up to reality sometimes it's just to point it out.
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I've been on the internet for a long time. Have any of you heard of newsgroups/usenet? Most of you wouldn't last a day in that arena.

What surprises me is that people are foolish enough to engage with posters they find nasty. That leads me to the conclusion that they enjoy the drama and are seeking attention. Otherwise, why wouldn't an intelligent person act as though the bully, troll, whatever, doesn't exist?
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I've been on the internet for a long time. Have any of you heard of newsgroups/usenet? Most of you wouldn't last a day in that arena.

What surprises me is that people are foolish enough to engage with posters they find nasty. That leads me to the conclusion that they enjoy the drama and are seeking attention. Otherwise, why wouldn't an intelligent person act as though the bully, troll, whatever, doesn't exist?
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:07 PM
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So, what you are saying basically is:

It's okay for you to tell someone when what they say or do on an internet chatboard bothers or annoys you, but it's NOT okay for the target of such to say right back that what you are doing is bothering them? All of a sudden THEY are the drama queens?

isn't that kind of ironic?

Why can't the ones who are being annoyed just ALL not reply and ignore those psotings that bother you?

But then, that would be a perfect chatboard world then, and Orville Redenbocker would be out of business.


(Now, I am going to take my own advice. Plus I am now resorting to eating saltines-I've eaten all other snackables I can find in the house.)

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Old 06-10-2008, 07:17 PM
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So, what you are saying basically is:

It's okay for you to tell someone when what they say or do on an internet chatboard bothers or annoys you, but it's NOT okay for the target of such to say right back that what you are doing is bothering them? All of a sudden THEY are the drama queens?

isn't that kind of ironic?

Why can't the ones who are being annoyed just ALL not reply and ignore those psotings that bother you?

But then, that would be a perfect chatboard world then, and Orville Redenbocker would be out of business.


(Now, I am going to take my own advice. Plus I am now resorting to eating saltines-I've eaten all other snackables I can find in the house.)

*crunch-crunch*
I'm not sure if you are directing this at anyone in particular, since you didn't quote anyone or mention anyone, but, I will say that IMO it's fine for people to say something is bothering them, but, to post that you are leaving because basically people didn't "say" what you wanted them to, yes, THAT is dramatic to me.

Irony is when someone pulls the plug on their thread (yes, they have that right) because people are being "nasty" yet, they have dealt out more than their share of nastiness. I just don't get it, I guess
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:28 PM
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I THINK most times i am complete opposite online then I am offline. I mean I am always nice! However Offline I say it like it is (still being nice) and don't put up with anything. Online I ignore alot more...I was a member of a board once and had a number of friends but lost Most of them because I betrayed their trust by going to another friend and telling her all that they were saying about her. It just hurt me and pissed me off that they would be nice as peach to her face and then talk behind her back like that. Was I right? I dunno. I betrayed several for one but In the end I ended up losing them all really because at the time I was NOT so pleasant and having MAJOR health issues and it just spilled over into me basically going insane. I snapped! Am I still like that? Heck no. I do NOT invest anything in online anymore. I have plenty of friends that I talk to online BUT never call any of them . We are all just too different. We are strictly online friends...I guess I just can't go any deeper then that with people I meet online.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:07 PM
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I will say that IMO it's fine for people to say something is bothering them, but, to post that you are leaving because basically people didn't "say" what you wanted them to, yes, THAT is dramatic to me.

Irony is when someone pulls the plug on their thread (yes, they have that right) because people are being "nasty" yet, they have dealt out more than their share of nastiness. I just don't get it, I guess
I agree with AIA. I think posting that you are leaving is silly. Either leave or don't. And if you are looking for someone to kiss your butt and ask you to stay, you have invested too much on a chat board.
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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The only people I really care about what they think are my children and DH and hell most of the time I don't care what DH thinks
ROFL ~ I feel exactly the same way!
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:47 PM
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you know, alot of people post that they are gonna leave cause someone stepped on their toes and then a few days alter they are back. I guess some folks do leave but after a day or so, i have totally forgotten them.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:38 AM
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I haven't read this board much since it started back up again, and I haven't posted at all, but I just wanted to stick my head in to say that if what's said on here has an effect on your real life, on your mood, your patience with your family, if you're stewing about it when you're not even on MyCoupons, then you really have given it far more importance than it deserves.

When YFB fell apart the way it did, I was almost daily shocked by the posts of seemingly sane and normal people. It seemed like they had merely been playing 'nice' until they had the chance to join together and give their nastiness free rein. And I'm not talking about the occasional snarky comment, I mean malicious, cruel, vindictive nastiness that they seemed to truly enjoy. A lot of those people are back here now, playing nice again, biding their time. The lesson to learn is to trust no one on a board like this...people who seem to be your friends can turn on you in a heartbeat, and there will always be those who enjoy picking on someone who seems weaker than them. Schoolyard bullies grow up, and some of them become wives and mothers who post online.

Enjoy your time here, and the chance to chat with so many other people when you have some downtime in real life. But if you're not enjoying it, it's time to find something better to do with your time. No one makes you come here, no one makes you read something you don't want to read....it really is very easy to just hit the 'x' in the upper right corner of the page and go play with your kids, read a book, or (God forbid) do some work.

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