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Old 07-14-2008, 10:54 AM
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to all the trolls

you know who you are!
I hope your happy!
there are people who spend their time freely moderating these boards only to be harrassed by you!
well congratulations as of today 4 mods quit because they don't like to waste their time!
but! you have not won because you still have to live with YOU!
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Wouldn't it have been better to not give them the satisfaction of knowing this??? Not to mention, this is kind of a hateful post, don't you think???
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:13 AM
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Go away for awhile and things change fast. I'm sorry to hear that it got so bad for the mods...
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:59 AM
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you know who you are!
I hope your happy!
there are people who spend their time freely moderating these boards only to be harrassed by you!
well congratulations as of today 4 mods quit because they don't like to waste their time!
but! you have not won because you still have to live with YOU!

The "trolls" may not win the war--but they sure have won this battle. And you let them know that by posting.

I don't know what I missed in the way of harassment. And if the harassment was done behind the scenes (IM and/or emails) then why bring it out in the open. YOU have given the trolls the satisfaction of knowing that they 1) got to 4 mods, 2) and got to you.
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:11 PM
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Go away for awhile and things change fast. I'm sorry to hear that it got so bad for the mods...
The more they change, the more they stay the same. Maybe its the weather... I remember this board getting pretty heated this time last year too.
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:29 PM
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Is there a reason the OP posted this several different places?
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:43 PM
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Old 07-14-2008, 04:17 PM
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:14 AM
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Wouldn't it have been better to not give them the satisfaction of knowing this??? Not to mention, this is kind of a hateful post, don't you think???
I totally agree. She's feeding the trolls and that's what they want. Not a very good moderator in my opinion.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:35 AM
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I think it would be very frustrating to be a moderator. The trolls are nasty.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:39 AM
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I totally agree. She's feeding the trolls and that's what they want. Not a very good moderator in my opinion.
I don't feel she is feeding the trolls.Shes just using her privilge as a mycoupons member to vent just like everyone else does.Just because shes a mod or was a mod doesn't take away her right to vent too.
Curious as to who the trolls are and how they could possibly see anything to herass over.I haven't seen any of the mods post anything that could cause a conflict.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:54 PM
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I don't feel she is feeding the trolls.Shes just using her privilge as a mycoupons member to vent just like everyone else does.Just because shes a mod or was a mod doesn't take away her right to vent too.
Curious as to who the trolls are and how they could possibly see anything to herass over.I haven't seen any of the mods post anything that could cause a conflict.
You're kidding, right? Starting a thread about them TOTALLY feeds them. That is WHAT they want!!
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:32 PM
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You're kidding, right? Starting a thread about them TOTALLY feeds them. That is WHAT they want!!
It might be what they want but sometimes the nice folks HAVE to vent for their sanity. We know it won't stop them but sometimes you just have to call them out.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:25 PM
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It might be what they want but sometimes the nice folks HAVE to vent for their sanity. We know it won't stop them but sometimes you just have to call them out.
How is this calling them out??? I don't see any names here......that would be helpful. The only "recent" trolls I can recall is ProudUSMama. Sadly, some people seem to think anyone who recently signed up is automatically a troll
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:11 PM
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How is this calling them out??? I don't see any names here......that would be helpful. The only "recent" trolls I can recall is ProudUSMama. Sadly, some people seem to think anyone who recently signed up is automatically a troll

Haven't seen that troll on here for a while, have we? Maybe the mod could list the trolls? I actually haven't seen 'trolls' as such -- just people with different opinions on issues. When I think of a troll, I think of someone new who comes in all of a sudden and makes trouble.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:22 PM
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Haven't seen that troll on here for a while, have we? Maybe the mod could list the trolls? I actually haven't seen 'trolls' as such -- just people with different opinions on issues. When I think of a troll, I think of someone new who comes in all of a sudden and makes trouble.

I thought the trolls were people that have more than one user name. Saving one just to be nasty.

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Old 07-15-2008, 06:30 PM
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I thought the trolls were people that have more than one user name. Saving one just to be nasty.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:59 PM
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I haven't seen any trolls. I assume she's talking about people who don't hold their tongue when they don't like something on the board or don't agree w/ her point of view.
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Well I am completely clueless here..but I will say that I think that whatever "troll" or who/whatever it is that is going on here..is probably feeding most off the fact that you are all bashing a mod for expressing her anger/hurt/feelings over what they have done.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:24 PM
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I haven't seen any trolls. I assume she talking about people who don't hold their tongue when they don't like something on the board or don't agree w/ her point of view.
My guess is that you won't see it! I bet they email or PM the nasty stuff.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:48 PM
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whatever "troll" or who/whatever it is that is going on here..is probably feeding most off the fact that you are all bashing a mod

Feeding most? Feeding for sure, but they wouldn't be feeding at all if the mod in question hadn't posted an inane post in the first place. Nobody here would have known a thing.

She fed the trolls the entree, the rest has just been dessert.

Shouldn't a mod be required to have at least a modicum of self restraint? A smidgen of professionalism? A hint of impartiality? A clue?

Apparently not in this case. Thankfully, this is not the norm with most of the mods here who do a wonderful and thankless job.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:06 AM
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Guess it really doesn't matter since she's not a mod anymore I can totally understand her wanting to "vent". Especially if the "trolls' have made it their mission to personally attack her for something that has happened on a public board for something she probably felt was needed by her "job" at the time.

Just my humble opinion. I have/had nothing at all to do with whatever is going on here, I rarely post and mostly lurk, but I have seen a LOT of hateful, spiteful, small minded things posted here recently. I don't know if it's the election coming up, or the hot weather, or what but people need to stop and think that there is an actual live person behind that username and whatever they say even if it is meant in fun or whatever can and usually does hurt. And when people have been hurt enough they tend to hurt back.

Ok, gonna shut up now. Go back into lurker mode I will probably get jumped by someone but oh well. Can't please everyone, right
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Guess it really doesn't matter since she's not a mod anymore I can totally understand her wanting to "vent".
. I don't know if it's the election coming up, or the hot weather, or what but people need to stop and think that there is an actual live person behind that username and whatever they say even if it is meant in fun or whatever can and usually does hurt. And when people have been hurt enough they tend to hurt back.
Thank You!!!!

No It doesn't really matter since Squeak is not a Mod, She is allowed to voice her opinion on any board on MC. Leave the girl alone , let her get it out! There are no mods on certain boards here now.

I guess it is up to the members to conduct themselves in an adult manner. I suppose it was always suppose to be that way, but certain members do not know how to just leave well enough alone. I am not bashing or calling anyone out so dont take it that way. I am still posting under my Ex-mod name , was going to go back to my old name, but decided otherwise.


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Old 07-16-2008, 11:06 AM
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That stinks. I'm sorry that this happened - Squeak has been here for what seems like forever.

And IrishBlonde, sorry that you quit, too. I really appreciate everything you did.

I hope you both stay as members!!! You're awesome.

FWIW, i don't even believe that the people who were the most hurtful even see that they had any part in it. Some people don't see that their negativity has a very nasty ripple effect.

But I still hope you can weed through it and enjoy the good that's here!

Chelmo, I am very grateful that you're still a mod. I know you put up with a lot.

Is Ambrianna still here?
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Sadly, Ambriana, too, has moved on.

WOW, there must have been some real crap going down for Ambriana to quit too.
I hope this place doesn't turn into a big can of spam now.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:01 PM
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Wouldn't it help the mods if they were able to actually enforce the rules that are stated on here? Not censoring, etc... but following the "stated" rules. According the the posted guidelines it seems like trolls could be banned.
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No It doesn't really matter since Squeak is not a Mod, She is allowed to voice her opinion on any board on MC. Leave the girl alone , let her get it out! There are no mods on certain boards here now.
Well, why can't she be more like you and do it gracefully?! she posted on 3 different boards that she left.

Why is her status is still "moderator"? Anyone know?

Hey Cindy! You're the boss of me now!
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:55 PM
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Some time ago, when I was a mod I was told that banning people looked bad and it was bad for business. Now this was not under Greg at the time...so I don't know what the current line of thought is.
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Hey Cindy! You're the boss of me now!
Oh crap! Now I'm scared. Although *insert evil laughter* this could be fun!!!! Give me Nance's crown. I'm the queen now!!!!!!!!
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[quote=jaded;3018805]Well, why can't she be more like you and do it gracefully?! she posted on 3 different boards that she left.

Why is her status is still "moderator"? Anyone know?

for your information I posted that I had left on the boards I personally moderated!
and if you look at my record I have not been very controversial!
but when people throw a huge hissy fit over following the rules, it just gets to be too much! the mods and former mods are caring feeling people and there are some here that take great pleasure in being hurtful and destructive! I felt a need to call it like it is!
and I would say if my post has offended you maybe you need to take a good look at your self as to why it would offend you!
would you like it if people called you stupid, inane, wrote you nasty emails!
one former mod was even stocked by a member! they email the administrators about you call you names and make references to your age, sex or brain function! you tell me you would like it and you can be the new mod!
when was the last time you said to one of the mods, good job! I'm glad your here?
some have but it doesn't make up for the others! the position as a mod just hurts too much to continue!
I will continue to be here and post with more freedom but I will not forget that there are real people on the other end of the post!
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It seems to me you are doing it gracefully!
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So who all are gonna be the new mods?The suspense is killing me!
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OK, I've been trying not to chime in, but it's really getting to me. I've thought about being a mod, but thought twice about it. It's pretty much a thankless volunteer job. Even though we don't know who the trolls are, and haven't *seen* recent evidence of them...they are always here. A lot of the nasty stuff actually goes on behind the scenes in the form of e-mails and PMs. I'm sure you can only take so much.

Thank you to all the mods past and present. I for one really appreciate all you have done.
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would you like it if people called you stupid, inane, wrote you nasty emails!
when was the last time you said to one of the mods, good job! I'm glad your here?
Hate to break it to you, but that happens to regular members also, not just mods.

And not that you would have noticed in your quest to only see the bad side of me, but I've frequently said that both Cindy and Irish were pretty damn cool. I still think so.
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Well, why can't she be more like you and do it gracefully?! she posted on 3 different boards that she left.

Why is her status is still "moderator"? Anyone know?

for your information I posted that I had left on the boards I personally moderated!
and if you look at my record I have not been very controversial!
but when people throw a huge hissy fit over following the rules, it just gets to be too much! the mods and former mods are caring feeling people and there are some here that take great pleasure in being hurtful and destructive! I felt a need to call it like it is!
and I would say if my post has offended you maybe you need to take a good look at your self as to why it would offend you!
would you like it if people called you stupid, inane, wrote you nasty emails!
one former mod was even stocked by a member! they email the administrators about you call you names and make references to your age, sex or brain function! you tell me you would like it and you can be the new mod!
when was the last time you said to one of the mods, good job! I'm glad your here?
some have but it doesn't make up for the others! the position as a mod just hurts too much to continue!
I will continue to be here and post with more freedom but I will not forget that there are real people on the other end of the post!
Ummmm...I, as a simple member have had all the horrible nasty things you described done to me. Did I like it? Not Particularly. But, I realize that this is a public message board and it may attract all kinds of people, so I blew off the majority of what was said.

All that aside, I think a simple post of "I will no longer be a mod. I feel as if the stress of being a mod is not good for my mental health and feel it is time to step down." Or something along those lines.
Honestly, you allowed these people to make you feel inferior and hurt your feelings.

I'd love to be a Mod.--but, I have a job, family and a life that generally takes up my time.
Best of luck to all the mods who left. Continued success to the mods who stayed.
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would you like it if people called you stupid, inane, wrote you nasty emails!
when was the last time you said to one of the mods, good job! I'm glad your here?
Hate to break it to you, but that happens to regular members also, not just mods.
One of the differences being...if a certain member says something unpopular they may get called on the carpet by other members, but if one mod says something unpopular all of a sudden it's "the mods". I think squeak was just trying to say, some members feel a freedom in bashing mods because they are mods. This is a such a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of members that it makes it insignificant, till you're on the receiving end of it.

Moderators are individual members of the community here and should be held to the same standards as all other members, no more, no less.

I agree with you, I think Cindy and Irish are pretty damn cool!
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It is getting a little old - blaming mods for deleted posts, favoritism, breathing the wrong way, etc.

We're sitting here enjoying a free website affiliated with coupons, and yet there is always the predictable criticism, negativity and bashing from the same old pack - regarding the volunteers who do their best in a thankless position.

If anyone feels personally hurt by the decisions that have been made by the mods in the past, that is bewildering to me. It's a MESSAGE board for people who were originally brought together by their use of coupons. Put that into perspective in your lives... time to get over it! It never ceases to amaze me that it is consistently the same old posters who rant and rave about how wrong it was for a mod to have said this, or to have done that. Goodness - even a former mod's departing words are analyzed to death here! Talk about too much time in ones hands...

We all ended up losing on this particular go 'round. We had great mods, and fair rules. I'd suggest that the whiners step up and take over, but I don't think it would be a very nice *climate* around here.

So get over it, and try something called self-monitoring. If you write too much too soon, there's always an edit button. If all of this is too much, then find a new board that has moderators who does things (for free) the way you like them. Otherwise, time to do some long overdue self-evaluating...

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I'm sorry Jaded if you think I'm trying to see the bad side of you I just wanted you to think about the fact that people get hurt and instead of downing them for being so maybe if you saw their side you wouldn't feel that way!
but if you want to take offence even though none was intended! then I sincerely apologize!
maybe I've said enough and those who want to understand will and those who don't want to won't!
I love these boards and have been here since they started and won't leave now!
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:19 PM
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Amen Devinmom!

I had lots of trolls when I was a little girl. They were so easy to make dresses for.....a strip of felt....cut two holes in it - voila! I am a seamstress! LOL
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:20 PM
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If anyone feels personally hurt by the decisions that have been made by the mods in the past, that is bewildering to me. It's a MESSAGE board for people who were originally brought together by their use of coupons. Put that into perspective in your lives... time to get over it! .
and couldn't the same be said for the moderators? If someone has personally "attacked" them(and I'm speaking to the verbal/written attack, not the stalking. Stalking is an indication of some serious mental issues/instability), should they put it into perspective and get over it?

I'm sure it's difficult being a moderator--and I'm not sure that everyone is cut out to me one. And quite frankly, moderators(be they paid or volunteer) should be non-biased. And sometimes, being non-biased means putting your own thoughts, feelings, and opinions aside. I have, on occasion, seen moderators be extremely opinionated and just as argumentative as myself--that's not a good moderator.

Be that as it may--I liken Squeak's original post to those posters who have posted "I'm leaving". It's attention seeking, and the need to hear people ask you not to go and/or give praise to the "wronged" person.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:57 PM
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Can't MC just trace the IP and ban the IP of the person(s) doing the email/pm thing? It would be so easy to figure out who the double/triple/quadruple people are.

Of course, I don't think MC wants to do that, or it would be done.

A long time ago, the IP was visible with the post. Things were better then.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:58 PM
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I for one have held my tongue and that was very hard for me. I have also lashed out and it wasn't nice. I am a very strong person and always tell how I feel........ ask Mary !. I have a truckers mouth and it has been very hard for me to hold my opinion in.

I am not going to mod anymore but I will post freebies. I love finding the freebies and actually making sure everyone has the chance to get them. I just feel that certain members , need to curb the tongue a bit and first think of how it comes out and how someone may take it, since we do not show emotions and we are unable to see a person facial expression. Being on a forum is hard . Its hard to read a post and not feel anything about it.

Everyone here on MC's are great people, we have all had some kind of trouble in our life and maybe some of us ask for help. Or for some opinions , but when those opinions turn into down and out criticism , name calling and just plain mean posts. There is a time to put a stop to it.

I hope in the past I have not taken sides, I can only remember being asked by a member for help, I helped and got kicked in the mouth, by the member I helped., then the rest of the board chimed in. Not really knowing the true story, it got out of hand.

That is the past and I got over it. I think we should all start fresh, show MC that it can run without Mods. We are adults, lets just start acting like it.


Lets face it Ladies!....... we need to stick together and not be bitches! Lets show our new members what kind of a family we are on MC and have fun with it.

Irish........Karrie
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:59 PM
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Can't MC just trace the IP and ban the IP of the person(s) doing the email/pm thing? It would be so easy to figure out who the double/triple/quadruple people are.

Of course, I don't think MC wants to do that, or it would be done.

A long time ago, the IP was visible with the post. Things were better then.
It has been asked a million times, and they wont do it.
I have a list of IP's compiled doesnt do any good!
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:01 PM
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